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Yeah, you can have her. Just what you need to be the consummate lecher. I think Amir just told us she was 18 to get us off his back.

Amir, I not not bustin' your chops here. If she is, good. But is she really now? I mean, 18 in high school is old.
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yeesh i think some people on this board make serious mountains out of molehills

I work with several 17 and 18 year-old guys and gals, and almost all are sexually active. Law or not, didn't we all have sex as teens?
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yeesh i think some people on this board make serious mountains out of molehills

I work with several 17 and 18 year-old guys and gals, and almost all are sexually active. Law or not, didn't we all have sex as teens?
I get your point. But, no, some of us guys pushing 60 lived in a different world. Most did not have sex as teens. Certainly not early teens.

I guess there are pros and cons. There were few STD's even through the 70's and unprotected sex was the norm. On the other hand, sex was not as common as as having a date. You actually had to work a little. Believe it or not, some romantic overtures were needed to get some. Seems like today it's all, "Want to take in a movie and f**k?"

There are a few men here that still open doors for ladies. I don't know what that has to do with all this, but understand that there are different ways of thinking. When you have a grand daughter as I do and you think of her boinking every dude she goes out with, it kinda raises your dander.

Amir's cousin, niece, can do whatever what she wants. I'm sorry for all this rant. But my grand daughter is not going to behave like her if I have anything to do or say about it. I'm not perfect and made my mistakes. I see mistakes in this situation. Some could have serious ramifications. That's all I intended from the beginning.
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i really don't think much has changed over 50 years or so... the girls I dated very rarely would sleep with a guy any earlier than after a few weeks of dating... there are the sloots of course, but I think sloots always existed, right? Besides, hasn't the normal age of virginity loss pretty much always been 17?
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Zeke, I don't know what to make of your replies. From the first one you seem like a NARC or cop who's out to get me in trouble and from the last one it seems like you're an old man. I understand you wanting to make the law clear to me, but I'd like to inform you that I know statutory rape laws, because my friend got caught having sex wit his girlfriend who was a minor when he was 19 and he spent an over-nighter in jail and had to drop 10 grand in lawyer/bondsman fees......didn't serve any time though. Furthermore, I'm surprised you'd think I'd post something like this on a public message board where everything is recorded and backed up if it could cause me any legal problems. Let me make it clear once again, she is 18 years of age, the age of consent in the state of CA.

For the record, I had sex before I was 18 and it wasn't a "hey, lets go to a movie and ****". I don't see what the problem is as long as both parties are within at the very most two years of each other. That's not to say a 16 year old should be having sex with a 14 year old, but I don't see a problem with a 16 and 18 or 16 and 17 year old. It is very possible to still be a gentleman, I still open doors for women and always let them go through first.

Zeke, I'm going to tell you right now, I'm 19 years old and your grand-daughter is and will do whatever she wants, including experimenting with drugs and sex regardless of what you or her parents say about it. Her upbringing will determine whether she just chalks it up to an experimentation or takes it further. There is no substitute for good parenting and that is the most important part of the equation when it comes to dealing with adolescents going through puberty. All the kids in my school who had f'ed up parents that could give a crap about who they were hanging out with and not setting a reasonable curfew are the ones going on their 4th year in junior college smoking out after class. My friends and I all experimented with certain drugs and hooking up with chicks and we all have steady jobs that pay decently and are finishing up our general ed. in order to transfer to 4-year universities. Unfortunately I had friends that fell into the dark hole of buying cocaine at 4 in the morning and girls who'd spread their legs for the same, it was sad to see them in this state, but I wasn't going to end up like that so I distanced myself from them and that was that.
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Amir, I not not bustin' your chops here. If she is, good. But is she really now? I mean, 18 in high school is old.
No it isn't. The normal age for high school seniors everywhere in the U.S. is turning 18 sometime during school year, if they started school (kindergarden & 1st grade) at the normal age. The normal range would be from turning 18 the end of summer between 11th and 12th grade to turning 18 the beginning of summer after graduating, those are the extremes with most everyone turning 18 during the school year. It is now March for anyone who hasn't noticed, the vast majority of HS seniors are now 18. My 18th birthday was the last day of school, I was on the young end of scale for my grade.

Sorry, but this bit of inference, (that she is a minor), has been bugging me the whole thread. Statuatory rape can be a serious crime, but when an 18 y.o. is banging a 17.5 y.o. and you call it rape, that's a travesty. And where did he say that the guy was over 18?? Why start a witch hunt??
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Amir, I think that was well spoken, or written, as it were. And, I am definately and old man. I have a tremendous amount of contempt and anger about what goes on in this country. Some times that shows too much. I should have never touched this subject.

Denis, that's probably true. When I went to school, it was common for kids to skip a grade and graduate at 17, sometimes 16. I graduated at 17 but never skipped. At 18, when I was at that age, Uncle Sam snapped you up and sent you to Viet Nam. It seemed old at the time. Old enough to die, which some of my friends did. I still can't associate 18, war and death with high school. Most of us at least got started in college before Sam was breathing down your neck. If you didn't maintain at least a 2.0, goodbye and hello US Army.

Maybe that's where I get all these provincial attitudes. BTW, I didn't fight in Nam. I was flyin' heliocopters with G.W. Bush in AL
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BTW, I didn't fight in Nam. I was flyin' heliocopters with G.W. Bush in AL
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