Democratic Convention -- What's the point?

[Mulholland]

Originally posted by CamB
Mul - why are you so angry (about everything?).

Lies and corruption, graft and socialism, treason and treachery...Concentrated in the Democrat party.

I am mad at liberal politicians and propagandists who have taught Americans to hate themselves and their country. I am mad at liberals taxing the productive and rewarding the indolent. I am mad at oppressive taxation that hamstrings people from lifting themselves out of poverty. I am mad at public education used as indoctrination and dumbing down American students. I am mad at union thugs strong arming companies, driving up prices and forcing employment out of the country. I am mad at trial lawyers driving up medical costs and frivilously suing innocent people because they have deep pockets. I am mad that teachers unions are more concerned with more teachers than teaching children. I am mad that there are federal, state and local government employees that have an incestuous relationship with big-government. I am mad at the Clinton regime dragging the Presidency through the mud, selling pardons to corporate crooks, felons, drug dealers and terrorists. I am mad at Democrats destroying the black culture with welfare and entitlements. I am mad at the 50+ million babies murdered for profit. I am mad at Democrat crooks given a pass. I am mad at Ted Kennedy for murdering Mary Kopekne. I am mad at Al Sharpton for race-baiting and slander. I am mad at Al Gore for trying to steal the election in 2000. I am mad at Jesse Jackson shaking down corporations as a vocation. I am mad that a KKK member is a senior Democrat known as the "conscience of the Senate."

Just the short list.

[RoninLB]

Originally posted by Mulholland

I am mad at public education used as indoctrination and dumbing down American students.

I am mad that teachers unions are more concerned with more teachers than teaching children.

Just the short list.

just making sure you don't forget that the same teacher who can't teach 4th graders how to read is somehow qualified to teach those same kids about sex. The Nat'l Education Ass is probably the largest union in the country and has veto power to the Dem Nat'l Comm in-state political programs. The NEA, aka Nat'l Extortion Ass,. is scamming paying taxes on political programs and everybody + the IRS knows it.. go figure.

[CamB]

I don't know really where to start with that list . I might try and break it down:

1) Welfare and tax to pay for it (mad at tax, rewarding indolent, tax holding people in poverty, destroying black culture through welfare & entitlements).

I don't think the majority of people on welfare like it. It isn't an awful lot of money, and is a pretty grim existence - this is not rewarding indolence. Tax doesn't hold people in poverty - it might hold them in the middle class but not in poverty (the bottom earners pay no net tax). If there are tax cuts, it is basically certain that someone lower down the socioeconomic misses out --> who needs it more - the truck driver with three kids in Louisiana or the person getting the cut?

We have a similar debate in NZ about our equivalent of affirmative action and welfare dependance amongst the Maori people. There is no simple answer - the fact is that Maori in NZ and African Americans in the US are overrepresented in lower socioeconomic groups. I take the view (barely - it is intellectually difficult for me) that race-based funding is a means to an end. It isn't the most equitable but I think it may well be more efficient.

2) Unions and Education, govt employees

I'm with you on the unions - if they gain too much power then their benefits in preventing genuine exploitation of workers can easily be outweighed. If teachers there are anything like NZ, they are grossly underpaid -- I think this contributes to poor education standards. I dunno about your teachers union problems. In NZ, socio-economic level plays a huge factor in the outcomes of schooling - I expect it is the same in the US. Fixing education isn't easy. You can really only blame the curriculum if comparing 100% state vs 100% private, and I don't think a change of curriculum is gonna fix it.

Big govt makes more big govt, until someone cleans it out - then service levels suffer. I don't have an answer for that...

Note that I think the problems you have with education and big govt are equal (or close enough) under Democrat and Republican.

3) Trial Lawyers, Abortion

Agree 100%. Your legal system is screwed, and abortion (for me 100% of the time) sucks.

4) Other

You have some problems with certain personalities .

Clinton dragging presidency through the mud? Not the first, may not have been the worst, and won't be the last. Besides, he did some good stuff too.

You should forgive Byrd, and try and assess him on his merits now (you are ok with doing that for Bush, for instance). Byrd says a lot of very well thought out stuff, and his past doesn't detract from what he is saying.

Be mad at Kennedy, Gore and Jackson all you like I couldn't care less.

[Beethoven]

Personally, Mul? I'd try to get help. With so many things that make you mad, and so little hope of having all, or even a fraction of them, changed in your life time, you're looking at a life of misery.
Alternatively, you could try to buy a Porsche. Works for most people. Get a Targa (it's an open top model), cruise around a bit, listen to the motor. Very hard to be mad at the world after that.
Just don't forget to have it registered and insured. Otherwise the left-wing police is going to bust you!

[ubiquity0]

Originally posted by Mulholland


This from a guy who...married 2 millionairesses

My god, the horror
There are two of them.
And they are millionairesses .
When will this nightmare end?

I'm mad at paint.

[Rot 911]

Originally posted by LynnsABCs
2. Mul's purpose on this list is one thing. It is not to sway people's opinion who are undecided so they will vote for Bush. It is not to sway Dem's opinions and get them to change their thought process. He is here to verbally destroy, pound on the head, seek to ridicule those who don't share his beliefs--political and religious. You can't reason or discuss an issue with him. He jumps from one crazy idea to another.

Yankee911 = pot, kettle, black.

[nostatic]

Originally posted by Mark Wilson
I'm mad at paint.

what color?

[dd74]

I think Mul is funny. And I feel lucky I can laugh about and at him. He reminds me of my avatar. On a bad day, my avatar becomes arrogant and self-righteous. He is selfish and also extremely paranoid. And overall, he is ignorant of the larger picture and problem - which is himself. But without seeing that, my avatar flails and flails and shouts louder and louder until he doesn't realize he's truly become a one-character circus sideshow.

Being mad is one thing, but sitting there and stewing about it, or extrapolating anger onto a web board where no one takes the rants and raves seriously because of its tone, is wasted effort. His diatribe about the horrors of the world and how they can be pointed to a political party are sad, dysfunctional and paranoid. Therefore, for conjecture's sake, I decided for just a moment to put myself in Mul's shoes:

If I were Mul, what would truly make me mad is the following:

1) I live in Los Angeles and near enough gays and lesbians to not just make me utterly sick, but to grow concerned as to how their illicit habits might effect my own sexuality.

2) I dislike Jews. Being pro-Israel only has to do with the fact I also dislike Arabs and anyone else of the broader Islamic faith.

3) Closer to home, I'm sick and tired of freeloading Mexicans not speaking English, even though they cut my lawn and clean my toilets. Yes, at the day's end, I appreciate their work, though I still hold disdain as to how they live off the fruits of my labor, while remaining unable to tell me if my azelias are dying or not.

4) I'm hypocritical: I should be driving an American 5.0 Mustang instead of a Japanese Subaru.

5) I am (KK)Klanish, because I feel as a white man, I'm being squeezed out of what I am entitled to.

6) I fear the world is coming to get me, and that the elimination of constitutional rights and obliterating entire infrastructures of countries, including my own, remains the only way to protect myself.

7) I use Christianity and conservatism as convenient cloaks under which I can hide my fears, but also dispatch them when needed to to those who I hope are of like mind.

I could go on, but Mul already knows he's afraid - at least that's what I take from his writings on these threads. So why needle him further?

As to whether Mul's traits are found in all Christians and/or Republicans, I know they're not; so it's hard to regard Mul as either. He simply sounds scared. Of what, who really knows? But he must know there's an enemy out there - one he can't see, and that has to make him even more frightened.

My advice is this: look in the mirror: the enemy may just be that face that's blinking back at you.

More advice: you should leave Los Angeles. Demographically, you have too much against you as is.

Otherwise, best wishes with your one-man show.

Originally posted by nostatic
what color?

If I named a particular color, they'ed call me a colorracist. Therefore, I shall be angry at all paint colors equally.


BTW, some of my best friends are paint.

[widebody911]

Originally posted by CamB
and abortion (for me 100% of the time) sucks.


Simple: don't have one!

[widebody911]

George Bush: "If this were a dictatorship, it would be a heck of a lot easier - just so long I'm the dictator." December 18, 2001

http://www.newsgateway.ca/bush_dictator.htm

[RoninLB]

not for nothing.. but if advertising is related to sales then the Dems are looking real good.. and it's a growing wave of money.

I think after both conventions the real dirty advertising is going to happen. Again, the profile of the swing voter is not to decide till within 2 weeks of the election.

[Mulholland]

Originally posted by widebody911
George Bush: "If this were a dictatorship, it would be a heck of a lot easier - just so long I'm the dictator." December 18, 2001[/i]

http://www.newsgateway.ca/bush_dictator.htm

"For years, the Clinton administration covered-up China's theft of top secret U.S. nuclear weapons data. They never informed the Congress or American people about what had happened or its significance to our national security.

"Let me tell you what President Clinton did during this period of time:

-- During this period of time, the President misled the American people on numerous occasions about the threat posed by strategic nuclear missiles in the post-Cold War era.

-- During this period of time, President Clinton made statements on over 130 separate occasions, such as the following:

"For the first time since the dawn of the nuclear age, there is not a single solitary nuclear missile pointed at an American child tonight. Not one. Not a single one." -- William J. Clinton

-- During this period of time, he knew that China was targeting up to 18 intercontinental ballistic missiles at American children.

Courtesy of Senator Ihofe.

[Mulholland]

"For the first time since the dawn of the nuclear age, there is not a single solitary nuclear missile pointed at an American child tonight. Not one. Not a single one." -- William J. Clinton

130 times he said this, and every time he knew it was a lie...Bill Clinton violated campaign finance laws and raked in millions from the Chinese government through Charlie Trie, Maria Hsai and John Huang...In turn the Chinese Military received ICBM technology and super computers.

Ron Brown (Bill Clinton's Commerce Secretary) loosened trade restrictions to allow Loral to trade missile technology to China, against the best advice from the CIA, and later ended up dead of a mysterious plane crash....I guess he knew too much.

[Beethoven]

Ah, Senator Ihofe... voted "the stupidest man in both houses" by the readers of Slate after his performance on the Abu Ghraib panel.

[Mulholland]

Originally posted by Beethoven
Ah, Senator Ihofe... voted "the stupidest man in both houses" by the readers of Slate after his performance on the Abu Ghraib panel.

No?...Democrats calling a Republican stupid?...Wow, how unique.

I notice you didn't question the substance, only the source...You need another source confirming the content?

Of course you don't.

[Superman]

Yeah, Mul had a brief emotional effect on me when I thought he might be persuaded to settle down and join our discussion. But he's not going to do that, so trying to address his remarks is trying to discuss wage laws with business groups. Those groups have no intention of, or interest in, making those laws work better. You cannot negotiate with anarchists toward making things better. They have the opposite agenda.

But there is freedom in understanding this. For example, it is very easy now for me to see the humor in Mul's posts.

[Mulholland]

Originally posted by Superman

Right Supe...keep voting for big-abortion and Sodom and Gamorrha West...See ya on judgement day.

[CamB]

I am quitely confident that my position of voting for politicians who support same sex unions and abortions will not jeapordise anything.

There is plenty of other stuff to do "right" and not do "wrong". These aren't the only sins.