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Mark Wilson 07-29-2004 07:08 PM

re:John Kerry
 
Tonight, millions and millions of insomniacs have been put to sleep.

Mulholland 07-29-2004 07:23 PM

Re: re:John Kerry
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mark Wilson
Tonight, millions and millions of insomniacs have been put to sleep.
As has JFKerry....RIP

lendaddy 07-29-2004 07:25 PM

It wasn't great, it wasn't bad. PRetty bland and inmy opinion he went the wrong way. The only memorable things he did were slams against Bush. Not gonna win the middle with that. I recall not a single detail uttered by him, just I'll be better. Good luck with all that:)

Mulholland 07-29-2004 07:37 PM

Love that stab stab stab at Bush, and then conclude with attempting to appear above negativity...The biggest hypocrisy of this last 4 days..."We are not going to attack Bush (HE IS A WAR CRIMINAL, THE ECONOMY IS IN SHAMBLES, IT IS ALL ABOUT OIL, OUTSOURCING!!!)"

gsxrken 07-29-2004 07:49 PM

It bothered me to, but I'm trying to figure out why. It's a conceit of sorts- I think he really believes that he DESERVES to be there, like it was just a matter of time before us idiots elect him.

Mulholland 07-29-2004 07:54 PM

A few things really pissed me off...Blaming Bush of lying to get us into Iraq (proven inaccurate and misleading)...Kerry also talked about "energy independence", but the guy voted against ANWR and is bought and paid for by environmentalists.

The Democrats have made us more energy dependent. In fact the enviro-wackos and they would like our gas prices to be higher...Higher tax revenues would result and the guise would be to discourage usage...Just like cigarettes, but the gold is in that usage would not be discouraged and the people would have to take it in the wallet for the attempt at social engineering....Win win for liberals.

bryanthompson 07-29-2004 08:12 PM

I never thought I'd use the words "all show and no go" with John Kerry, the dullest politician next to Robert Kkk Byrd, but tonight's speech was just that.

All he talked about was having ideas for the future. Well, what were his ideas? What plans did he lay out? none, absolutely none!

I can sit here all day and say I've got ideas about curing cancer, aids, how to create a billion jobs, how to end starvation in ethiopia, but that doesn't mean I have any plan whatsoever!

Mulholland 07-29-2004 08:24 PM

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island911 07-29-2004 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bryanthompson
. . Well, what were his ideas? What plans did he lay out? none, absolutely none!

I can sit here all day and say I've got ideas about curing cancer, aids, how to create a billion jobs, how to end starvation in ethiopia, but that doesn't mean I have any plan whatsoever!

You give him more credit than he deserves. :)

Kerry didn't even have ideas. . .all he had was was "it may be, in the future" . .. he could imagine these things happening.

He did have one idea, that was pretty strong; healthcare. He had the idea, that if he held-up the superior coverage-plan that congressmen get, as something that he would give to every US citizen, that people would believe him.

Seems, for that promise, he should have been wearing a red-suit, and have flying reindeer. :cool:

Moneyguy1 07-29-2004 08:47 PM

Can't wait for the next convention...It will be interesting to go back to some of these comments and contrast them with promises made by the Reps...

I predict there will be no substance there either....

island911 07-29-2004 08:47 PM

. . . and WTF is with "Help is on the wayyyy" ?

I know lib's like the victum roll, but c'mon.. . .as if Kerry & the Brett-girl are going to help anyone but themselves,

A Quiet Boom 07-29-2004 08:49 PM

LMAO

Mul, you ever check out http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/weblog.php or http://www.marksteyn.com? I'm more of a moderate conservative but still enjoy reading the hardcore stuff once in a while.

-BOOM

nostatic 07-29-2004 08:50 PM

so why do you guys watch it? So you have something to b!tch about? You KNOW you will not agree with anything he says...even if he used one of Bush's speeches. So what exactly is the point?

I mean come on...both guys (Kerry and Bush) are doofuses. If a reasonably intelligent person couldn't poke holes in either candidate's speech...then either they aren't trying or they aren't very intelligent.

djmcmath 07-29-2004 09:04 PM

Why watch the DNC?

1 - Know your enemy.
2 - Same reason I read your posts, NoStatic -- conflicting viewpoints are healthy. If we didn't watch the DNC, you'd accuse us of being close-minded. Because we _do_ watch it, we're accused of being ... ????

Just my $.02...

dan

A Quiet Boom 07-29-2004 09:07 PM

I watched because you have to in order to be an informed, responsible voter. Like I said, I'm a moderate conservative and I don't vote along party lines. I will however vote for Bush because he sticks to his guns and does what he says more than most politicians. Kerry's opinion and statements change like the weather and that scares me. How could I possibly vote for a guy when I don't know what he stands for? I even know moderate Democrats saying the same thing, and they also plan to vote for Bush "because at least we know what we're getting" in their words. Now if W could just get off the Kerry bashing and lay out his plan for the next four years......;)

Moneyguy1 07-29-2004 09:10 PM

I always wonder about the word "enemy" used to describe fellow Americans with whom we may have honest disagreements.

I will watch both conventions because I might just learn something and modify my thinking.

How's that for a positive spin?

nostatic 07-29-2004 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by djmcmath
Why watch the DNC?

1 - Know your enemy.
2 - Same reason I read your posts, NoStatic -- conflicting viewpoints are healthy. If we didn't watch the DNC, you'd accuse us of being close-minded. Because we _do_ watch it, we're accused of being ... ????

Just my $.02...

dan

I guess I just get tired of the broken records. Kerry could have put forth the most elequent speech known to modern man, and the responses would have been the same here. I didn't watch becuase I knew he couldn't pull it off. He doesn't have it in him. So why waste my time watching it, and then why waste my time pissing and moaning about it?

Of course the irony of my above comment is not lost on me. ;)

island911 07-29-2004 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nostatic
so why do you guys watch it? So you have something to b!tch about?. . .
insomnia.






:D heh-heh. Well, I know what messages would work. . .curious to see if the focus-groups get him there, or close . .. or spend all their time doing damage-control-posturing.

It is interesting to follow the nuances. Team sports don't do it for me. Political manuvering does.

Here Kerry, doesn't have ANYTING currently to be accountable for (yeah, he's getting a pass on that senate duty thing) He has all the time to figure out what face to wear. . . .and this is the best he could do. .. pff.

Meanwhile GW *is* making hard decisions, which have outcomes . .which will be second guessed for political possitioning by the Kerry kamp. And, he has to be thinking about the election. He saw his dad lose, even with high approval ratings. . .thats got to eat at him.

nostatic 07-29-2004 09:25 PM

I guess I've just lost interest due to the lack of "quality" on both sides, and the angerness/bitterness/lack of class exhibited by the players and their backers.

then again, I feel the same way about pro sports these days.

Moneyguy1 07-29-2004 09:26 PM

FOX news is always interesting, parsing the speeches even before they were finished. To his credit, Billy Krystal gave generally high marks to many of the speakers, but the bomb throwers were there as well.

Great political tactic..."Tell me, are you still beating your kids?" "Yes or no!!"

I'm sure the leftie bomb squad will be out there in a few weeks but the conservatives (I will NOT call them Republicans; that would be to insult a great American institution) do it SO well, don't you agree?

Actually, I thought Kerry did better than expected; the bar was rather low in the first place.


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