John Kerry: Unfit for Command - Page 4

08-02-2004, 10:59 AM

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Originally posted by techweenie
Hard to believe people are still claiming Bush doesn't lie. I doubt any President has lied more...

"I don't believe anyone that I know in the administration ever said that Iraq had nuclear weapons."
—Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, at a hearing of the Senate's appropriations subcommittee on defense, May 14, 2003

"We believe he has, in fact, reconstituted nuclear weapons."
—Vice President Dick Cheney on NBC's Meet the Press, March 16, 2003

Bush mostly lets others around him do his lying. He's already lost one spokesman (Arie Fleischer) who was caught in too many lies -- like the "imminent threat" lie:

Fleischer's "ability to repeat a lie even after it's been shown, repeatedly, to be false is what separates him from the amateurs." --Timothy Noah, Slate

So GWB gets his employees and partners to do most of the lying for him, does that make him less of a liar?

"I did not have sex with that woman....Ms Lewinsky."
Guess you're wrong again Jimbo.

350HP930 · 08-02-2004, 05:10 PM

Hmm, always a change of subject when embarassing facts can't be refuted. Interesting . . .

08-02-2004, 05:34 PM

Nope, Just an answer to tech's post. Let's see you back up some of your accusations, Sparky.

350HP930 · 08-02-2004, 06:16 PM

How about you name some you have an issue with.

Mulholland · 08-02-2004, 06:16 PM

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Originally posted by Mark Wilson
"I did not have sex with that woman....Ms Lewinsky."
Guess you're wrong again Jimbo.

Here is a better one for ya Mark...

Feb. 11, 1996: "If you look at the role America has played in the world, we should be rejoicing. ... There are no more nuclear missiles pointed at any children in the United States. I'm proud of that. ..."

Feb. 15, 1996: "I asked you to give me a chance to try to give America a more secure future and a more peaceful, more democratic world. And the fact that there are no nuclear missiles pointed at any American children for the first time since the dawn of the nuclear age is evidence of that commitment kept."

October 1996: "There is not a single, solitary nuclear missile pointed at an American child tonight. Not one. Not one. Not a single one."

Around 130 times Bill Clinton repeated this lie to the American people, when he was running for his second term. He had his mysteriously dead ex-Commerce Secretary, Ron Brown, loosen trade restrictions with China. The DNC/Clinton Administration were violating campaign finance laws, as they were raising funds from the Chinese Military.

Bill Clinton's top campaign donors were Loral and Hughes corporations, and his nefarious campaign finance violations centered around allowing these companies to sell ICBM technology to the Chinese Military.

Here is Bill Clinton playing sad for the cameras after the Ron Brown funeral.

06:25 PM

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Originally posted by 350HP930
How about you name some you have an issue with.

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Originally posted by 350HP930
Bush is an even more proven liar that kerry. What exactly is your point?

Ya got nothin.

Hey 350, your fly is unzipped.

08-02-2004, 06:24 PM

Hey Mul, What I find interesting is that you posted lies that came directly from President Clintons mouth. The dribble that came from Tech was all quotes from President Bush's staff and could easily be written off as miscommunications. Sorry Techie, you lose once again.

Moneyguy1 · 08-02-2004, 06:32 PM

I have yet to see the Doctor answer a straight question.......

Mulholland · 08-02-2004, 06:38 PM

"There is not a single, solitary nuclear missile pointed at an American child tonight. Not one. Not one. Not a single one."

William Jefferson Blythe Clinton

And Democrats wonder why Republicans hate Clinton...TRAITOR!

Mulholland · 08-02-2004, 06:40 PM

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Originally posted by Moneyguy1
I have yet to see the Doctor answer a straight question.......

I think he is still waiting for one.

350HP930 · 08-02-2004, 06:53 PM

Hmm, WMD, his harken energy stock, claiming terrorism was down since the iraq invasion, his relationship with enron just to mention a few of the things GWB has been untruthful about.

Hell there are so many it can fill a book.

http://www.bushlies.com/

Mulholland · 08-03-2004, 08:00 AM

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Originally posted by 350HP930
Hmm, WMD, his harken energy stock, claiming terrorism was down since the iraq invasion, his relationship with enron just to mention a few of the things GWB has been untruthful about.

Hell there are so many it can fill a book.

http://www.bushlies.com/

WMD?...He had them and wanted to deliver them and kill you.

Harken energy stock?...so?

Terrorism down?...given bad intel, but terrorism certainly is down in America and Israel.

Enron?...Where is the quid-pro-quo?...No lies.

I would imagine that website is full of similar false impressions and intentional disinformation...That book would be about as factually based as Michael Moores cinematic bowel movement.

08-03-2004, 08:16 AM

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Originally posted by 350HP930
Hmm, WMD, his harken energy stock, claiming terrorism was down since the iraq invasion, his relationship with enron just to mention a few of the things GWB has been untruthful about.

Hell there are so many it can fill a book.

http://www.bushlies.com/

Now there's a reliable, unbiased, Pulitzer prize winning news source!

widebody911 · widebody911's Garage

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Originally posted by Mulholland
Terrorism down?...given bad intel, but terrorism certainly is down in America and Israel.

Really?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A29664-2004Jun9.html

08-03-2004, 08:32 AM

Maybe there are US buildings being blown up that aren't reported? Yeah, that must be what it is.

jm951 · 08-03-2004, 08:37 AM

David Korn, now there's a really objective reporter

Mulholland · 08-03-2004, 09:08 AM

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Originally posted by widebody911

Ya, really...You are confused widebody. It was not a lie.