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fintstone · fintstone's Garage

Ok Cam, I agree on your assessment of Kerry's faults. I honestly made an effort to find something positive to say about Kerry, but simply could not come up with a single thing that I like. Ok, after much thought....here's one for you. Bush mispronounces words now and then that should not be difficult for a man of his education.

Mulholland · 08-29-2004, 08:27 PM

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Originally posted by CamB
Your turn again

This time, try to say something negative about Bush (there is HEAPS of real estate to choose from). Show how you really feel about him.

Because you were miserable failures at saying positive stuff about Kerry

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Bush bends to the left for political expediency...Other than that he is clean as a whistle.

Cannot say anything positive about Kerry because he is a liar and everything he says is tainted by that deception...from his fathering skills, to his "war-hero" status, to his war-criminal status, to his voting record and most recently to his ignoble attack of veterans right to free-speech.

All he has to do to shut us hate-filled Republicans up is to release his military records...Just think of it...The whole Republican party and the Swift Boat vets would be made to look like total fools.

It would be a total check-mate and vindication of his whole campaign...I mean, he should be proud of his record and that pride should manifest itself in wearing his military record as proudly as he does his recycled medals.

CamB · CamB's Garage

I find your difficulties in finding nice things to say about Kerry, and the blanket approval of Bush, quite telling.

Its not rational.

Approximately half of your population would choose one candidate over the other because of either positive or negative traits - you aren't empathising with any of the other half even to one small degree.

island911 · 08-29-2004, 09:48 PM

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Originally posted by CamB
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Your turn again

This time, try to say something negative about Bush . . .

Because you were miserable failures at saying positive stuff about Kerry .

Hey, I had the best positive stuff to say about Kerry.

Uhm, well . ..okay. . something -

1) Bush is terrible at handling the big media. They want juicy stories . . .Bush's "plain-speak" just is no fun. (and often awkward, of course)

2) He should be handling the cold message, that we will likely get hit hard again, differently. (we can handle the truth.)

3) He should have project more unstable-cowboy-finger-on-the-button-lunitic right after 9/11 (sure he got Pakistan and Lybia in line. .. but Iran, N.Korea ...he blinked)

4) he should stop scaring the anti-religious crowd, with his references to god and religion. (that crowd spooks easier that bunnys at a dog-track)

So you can add to, Kerry's "positives". . . he is very 'religious-non-threatening."

. . .Kerry is as much of a 'religious threat' as this guy.

CamB · CamB's Garage

Yeah, calling Kerry ineffectual seemed like the biggest compliment in the world

I gotta say Island, if you weren't such a firm believer in the enduring and imminent threat of terrorism to the USA, I reckon you'd find this whole conversation a lot harder.

island911 · 08-29-2004, 10:16 PM

But you can not deny that Kerry is ineffectual. Just look at his political record. (the reason Kerry wanted everyone to look at his Vietnam daze.)

" imminent threat " . . ..yep, I would have a tough time with all of this if I didn't see thousands of men women and children get killed in the second attack on the WTC. . . Another plane hitting the Pentagon. . . . Another plane full of passengers who decided enough of this $hit. . .these guys want to kill us and more --LET'S ROLL!

Considering where that 4th plane was headed, I am so thankful for those passengers who decided against the sucker position of "now is not the tiiiime . . .let's try diplomacy when we land. . .it will all be okay if we just sit on our hands".

CamB · CamB's Garage

Invading Iraq didn't do squat to change US security against internal terrorist attacks.

If protecting the US is your goal, surely you wonder WTF Iraq needed to be invaded.

Mulholland · 08-29-2004, 11:06 PM

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Originally posted by CamB
Invading Iraq didn't do squat to change US security against internal terrorist attacks.

No but changing US security against internal terrorist attacks changed US security against internal terrorist attacks....The Patriot Act seems to have been very helpful.

CamB · CamB's Garage

It's a pretty blunt instrument, but I guess it has its place. I could have done better

You also could of implemented the Patriot Act without invading Iraq. Oh wait, you did.

island911 · 08-29-2004, 11:15 PM

Saddam -- thumbing his nose at the UN inspectors for how many years!?
Supporting any efforts to exterminate Jews. Paying surviving families for their sons and daughters to strap on explosive vests.
Taking pot-shoots at our fighters patrolling the no-fly zone.

and not exactly "with us". . .if ya know what I mean.

Yep, I think our kicking his ass did help our security. Perhaps, perhaps not, immediately. . . but a sound move for the future, for sure.

CamB · CamB's Garage

I reckon he was on the way out in any case - the cracks were clearly there.

My opinion only, and I'm not going to debate it - it is completely unproveable in either direction and, since you already invaded and deposed him, we'll never know