Rod you are gone but not forgoton.

[SteveStromberg]

You will be forever in our hearts and Prayers. Your childern and grand childern suffer a great loss. I will never forgive those who inaction took your life and the lives of so many others.

http://www.september11victims.com/september11victims/VictimInfo.asp?ID=791

[SteveStromberg]

Here is the link to the Poster of the Victims.
http://www.september11victims.com/september11victims/Posters.htm

[techweenie]

Originally posted by SteveStromberg
...I will never forgive those who inaction took your life and the lives of so many others.

I thought you were pro-Bush?

[SteveStromberg]

It wasnt GW who tied the FBI AND CIA HANDS, IT WAS BILL CLINTON AND JANET RENO.

[911boost]

amen Steve.

[Porsche-O-Phile]

Umm yea. Right. Their hands were certainly tied when they burned down that house in Waco, TX with a bunch of people inside. Yep. They had no chance there at all. Their hands were tied behind their backs. Yep.

[techweenie]

It wasn't GWB who 'untied' them, either.

Mainly because their hands were not tied at all. If they had been hobbled, those agencies would have appealed to GWB's administration for rules changes. They didn't, because those supposed 'rules' were just basic legal procedure and didn't interfere in the way the Right has complained. Find a credible source within the FBI and CIA who can explain how their hands were tied.

Both agencies needed excuses -- badly.

The CIA had *one* person who spoke OBL's language (Uzbek?) and few Mideast experts. They were using the same people who misidentified asprin factories in the past.

The FBI couldn't find people listed in the San Diego phone book. That's neither Cllinton's nor Reno's nor Bush's fault.

[Mulholland]

Originally posted by SteveStromberg
It wasnt GW who tied the FBI AND CIA HANDS, IT WAS BILL CLINTON AND JANET RENO.

In all due respect, one would be remiss in not giving a special mention to Jamie Goerlick (of the "bipartisan" 9/11 Commission) for helping construct the wall of intelligence separation...It achieved many things, from Chinese Military money entering Democrat coffers, to allowing terrorism to fluorish and metastasize, etc.

[bryanthompson]

Goerlick should have been in the witness chair, not on the commission, so she can explain this: http://www.nationalreview.com/document/document_1995_gorelick_memo.pdf

[techweenie]

Some folks here are All Spin, All the Time.

Jamie Goerlick didn't invent any 'wall.' The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act defined a separation of investigative focuses nearly 30 years ago.

And I've heard no reason why the CIA and FBI should overlap. Otherwise, why have two agencies (of course, today we have about 30). More agencies tripping over each other is not a good thing.

Problems between the FBI and CIA are 'turf wars.' Problems within the FBI and CIA are just typical bureaucratic cr*p. FISA, in that context, only serves as a scapegoat for the failures of each agency.

And post-9/11, they both needed excuses so people wouldn't focus on how they let hijack conspirators slip through their fingers.

[bell]

someday we'll have a thread that doesn't get hijacked by political opinions..............................
you have a right to speak your minds.......just use your heads how you do it.
that is all.

[911boost]

once again amen. I am so f$@#ing tired of the political bs. Almost time to remove this forum from my favorites list.....