Ever wonder what it's like in Fallujah? - Page 3

tabs · 11-13-2004, 11:53 AM

Well go and try and convince Wolfowitz of that....

I think Sadam represented a sore to certain people in the administration that they just couldn't resist picking at.... I wonder what the Saudi's had in mind for a plan to get rid of Sadam...in other words a better way...

I generally agree that Sadam had to go...and based upon how beautifully Afgan worked out for the US, I thought the boyz in the Administration and DOD had worked out the details and had a workable plan...But that was my mistake...in thinking that...Wolowitz plan was that we get rid of Sadam and on Monday put the civil administration back to work just like we did in France after WW2...but guess what there was NO CIVIL Administration to put back to work...cause Sadam ran the place like an organized crime family does....

tabs · 11-13-2004, 11:57 AM

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Originally posted by Aurel
here is what should have been done: Let the UN inspect and contain Saddam, it worked just fine.

Aurel

Spoken like a TRUE Frenchman....problem was the Oil for Food Program and all the graft and corruption it entailed in ...and lets just leave it at saying.. in the world....I don't especially feel like pointing fingers today.

red-beard · red-beard's Garage

Aurel: Are you a US citizen?

Aurel · Aurel's Garage

No, and not trying to become one, thanks.

Aurel

Bleyseng · Bleyseng's Garage

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Originally posted by tabs
You live in the country with the most stable government and most stable currency in the world...You want for nothing in this country..

Not for long with Bush hell bent on destroying it by borrowing it till its beyond broke. Hmm, just like his wildcat oil businesses....the ole go with what ya know in business trick.
The American military under Bush's orders is to make a statement that we will destroy any city that defy's us. While we waste time and precious lives on Fallujah pop.500,00 Mosul is now in revolt and more cities are following suit. The small US forces cannot contain this revolt if the whole of Iraq is in revolt. Other news organizations are reporting all of this.

Stop watching Bushs TV network Fox News. Oh, thats right if you deny it enough then it becomes the truth, the ole GOP spin trick.
Geoff

tabs · 11-13-2004, 12:10 PM

One of the problems Americans have is in thinking that we can impose our way of thinking on everybody else...NOt everybody is going to be for having a Walmart or McDonalds on every camel path....mainly that our idea of Democracy doesn't take into consideration the cultures of the countries we are trying to introduce Democracy into...freedom unfortunately to the American way of thinking is one of freedom to do it your own way and not necessarily the American way.

red-beard · red-beard's Garage

So, why are you here in this country?

tabs · 11-13-2004, 12:22 PM

Ohhh Geoff you bit....The deficeits are undoubtily an issue of long term concern...but again you have to ask yourself why would a guy who lives and breathes fiscal conservatism become a spendthrift...The answer has to be becuase if he didn't the US would have gone into a severe Depression after the DOT COM Bubble, the 2000 election fiasco ...911, the Enron Scandal etc...those 4 hits coming one on top of another would have caused a very severe economic downturn the likes of which we havn't seen since the 1930's...there is a theory that every 60 years or so a Great Depression hits...like the Big Quake CA is supposed to be overdue for..The proof iof my argument is the severity of the Bear Stock Market we experienced from 2000 to 2003...and now it is just begining to show some signs of sustainable strength....

Aurel · Aurel's Garage

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Originally posted by red-beard
So, why are you here in this country?

Well, let us see...I work, I own a house, I am married to an american woman. Those are sufficient reasons to me, none of which require to be a US citizen. The only benefit, if any, would be voting. But since I would be a liberal, I will certainly understand if you don`t encourage me to become a citizen

Aurel

red-beard · red-beard's Garage

But why, if this country is so bad, did you locate here? You said, emphatically, that you do not want to become a Citizen.

tabs · 11-13-2004, 12:32 PM

Ohhh Aurel....enjoying the opportunities that being in America afford you (mainly Job and house) ...now the question is could you enjoy as nice of a life style in France? Granted they are not exactly the same...

Aurel · Aurel's Garage

Actually Tabs, it is not so clear cut. I would certainly enjoy more vacations, a more relaxed lifestyle, see my familly more often. I would have no problem buying a house cash with the money I made here...I would not have to worry about retirement. I have been thinking about going back. I think, it is mostly laziness of changing again that keeps me here.

And Red Beard, where did I say that this country was so bad ? You assume this because I criticize its foreign policy, but that is all. Also, I located here because I got an offer that I could not refuse. It happened by accident, I had to seize the opportunity. I was not trying to emigrate to the US.

Aurel

cool_chick · 11-13-2004, 12:58 PM

Dissent is the highest form of patriotism - Thomas Jefferson

tabs · 11-13-2004, 01:02 PM

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Originally posted by Aurel
I would have no problem buying a house cash with the money I made here...I would not have to worry about retirement.
I had to seize the opportunity.

Aurel

As I said the "Opportunity" which can enable you to go back financailly well off enough to buy a house for cash and not worry about retirement.... The American SYSTEM (way of doing things) has provided that opportunity...even if mistakes in judgement of one administration or another takes place...and it is the SYSTEM and not a paticular administration that Bin Ladenism hates...and wants to destroy..and why does he hate this FORM of System....because it challenges his beliefs in the way he thinks things should be...and he sees that as corrupting..

Aurel · Aurel's Garage

Thank you for the compliment, cool_chick

Actually, maybe in the far future, if the democtrats come back to power, and if the future looks a little better, I might consider again becoming a US citizen.
But I don`t have to worry about that for the next four years

Aurel

cool_chick · 11-13-2004, 01:08 PM

Let's get something straight....

Because we feel this administration sucks and does not have our best interests at heart and has made really really crappy choices and has a horrid foreign policy DOES NOT MEAN WE DON'T LOVE AMERICA! Means we feel this administration SUCKS.

We LOVE America...that's the problem. We want what's best for our beloved country.

PERIOD!

cool_chick · 11-13-2004, 01:10 PM

Aurel, It's nuts how some people twist things......

I would be just happy with a reasonable, compromising, level-headed, less-corrupt administration.

fintstone · fintstone's Garage

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Originally posted by cool_chick
Let's get something straight....

Because we feel this administration sucks and does not have our best interests at heart and has made really really crappy choices and has a horrid foreign policy DOES NOT MEAN WE DON'T LOVE AMERICA! Means we feel this administration SUCKS.

We LOVE America...that's the problem. We want what's best for our beloved country.

PERIOD!

Heaven help your husband....or wife .....if you marry....cause it would be hell living with the kind of love that runs down, denigrates, and tries to ruin everything you attempt to do.....

Oh wait...that is what a wife does.......

Aurel · Aurel's Garage

EXACTLY, Cool Chick ! I LOVE America too ! Why would not I ? It has given me the most fantastic opportunites...I love the system, Tabs.

Aurel

red-beard · red-beard's Garage

Thanks Tabs. I was slowly trying to get Aurel to come out and say this.