The only running down and denigrating I see is from the republicans, this discussion with Aurel is a PERFECT example,

...and ruining is from this administration.

Thank You.... That is exactly what I believe....Many of the correspondents on this Board and the Registry know I have NO FEAR of being ostracized and walking alone in the wilderness for my beliefs.

And BTW, I am not gay. So I would NOT take a wife!

How is this discussion with Aurel showing how Republicans are denigrating their country?

And your comment, "ruining is from this administration," is exactly the type commment I refer to. How anyone can daily make such charges (falsely I might add)in a public forum, in an attempt to ruin the credibility of their elected officials and the reputation of their country...and claim to love their country is beyond me.

Reminds me of the old saw, "you only hurt the ones you love."

I didn't think tabs was talking about denigrating the country....he said I would be denigrating to a husband because I feel this administration sucks and is ruining this country.

<b>How anyone can daily make such charges (falsely I might add)</b>

They're not false. But you refuse to accept the truth and dismiss it as false.

While your at it, accuse those.....those who read, see the info, put it all together, come up with the conclusion based on mistakes and misleads over the past 3 YEARS that this administration SUCKS... of not loving our country.

Sorry but that's a disgrace.

Well it seems to have worked .....I caught someone today anyway....and I seem to have pushed and moved the debate to where I wanted it....and got concessions. Oh well :)

I feel honored to have surrendered to your superior mastering of the debate, Great Buffeter. I am now fully reassured on the caliber of your thinking
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Aurel

One question Coolie why do you get angry about the seeming misdeeds of the Bush Administration? Why the attachment..what is it in yourself that causes that?

Did U get the same feeling from the seeming misdeeds of the Clinton administration...

I moved from simple right wing rhetoric to something far more complex....but it took that hook to engage

The anger comes from anyone who points out the failings of this administation being called such names as "anti american", "hate america" etc., stuff like that, which is so far from the truth (and I presume so far from the truth for most here).

I'm a fiercely patriotic person and have been my whole life.

IMO, the misdeeds ot the clinton administration pale in comparison. What I expect out of a leader (and what I pay his salary for) is what he does for the people and the country...

Scandalous sex things pale in comparison.

I was not happy with Clinton and N. Korea thing, however.

As a new comer Coolie...now do you see why I am a man of wealth and taste....which BTW is a reference to the Rolling Stones ...Sympathy for the Devil....and it is my very slyness that makes me the Prince of Darkness...or Agent Provocture.....and if you should doubt what I say just ask anybody who has been around here for awhile.....

huh?

BTW I am familiar with the song. And Janes Addiction came out with a fabulous version.

Let me please introduce myself
I'm a man of wealth and taste
I've been around a long long year
So many of man, soul to waste

or something like that....

Actually when someone stoops to calling you a name or labeling you it is a reflection on them and really has nothing to do with you...Once you can internalize that you can stepa round, instead of enganging in that kind of rhetoric.

So the polarization in "Off Topics" hasn't abated. :rolleyes:

You forgot the lines
When you meet me have some sympathy and taste

gee DD...did you think that after the election...the liberals would support their country, their troops, or their president any more than before? If anything they are worse...as bad losers.

Bad loosers? Its called sticking to your beliefs. Something that the right wingers appear to be a lot more wishy washy about.

For example, fiscal conservatism and keeping government out of people's personal affairs appear to be forgotten each time the right wingers take control of our nation. Right wingers fears of 'the guvmint' appear to also seriously wane each time their goons are controlling both congress and the presidency.

We radicals are a bit more concistent in our beliefs and criticisms no matter who is in power.

Yep...spilled milk and all. If I were republican I'd simply ignore the bating. But being independent in L.A. is as good as being republican. I think I get as many "WTF's the matter with you?" stares from liberal Hummer-driving mothers than any Neocon.

All I now say is, "You know what? It's done. Be mad, glad or sad."

We DO support our country
We DO support the troops
We will NOT support a president that SUCKS.

Win or lose, doesn't change the fact that the president SUCKS. He still SUCKS.

His new appointee as attorney general...another guy who SUCKS.

Spoken like a true child....