Pretty ***king sick if this is true... (Investigation of Marines shooting prisoners)

[928ram]

Purry just posted the darn thing.

Oh, I didn't see the vidoe there, only the still.

[LeRoux Strydom]

I generally stay out of these things, but my $0.02:

It's a war, people! Enemies get killed on both sides in a war!!

If there is something wrong, it is having these "embedded" reporters around. Invariably, the video clips shown cannot provide the entire context of what is really happening, hence will always be pulled into whatever direction the media owners will want it to go...

What do you liberals want, an investigation for every dead Iraqi or American soldier? How about an investigation into the almost daily murder/rape in ...... (insert your central African country of choice here) that goes mostly unreported?

LeRoux

[VenezianBlau 87]

Surely military counsels will have a lengthy circle jerk over this within the safe confines of their offices...rules of engagement...drawn by staff to cover their arses, thus protecting their careers...

Pardon me for not expressing glib, insincere concern over the treatment of enemy combatants...a bullet to the head of this POS was too kind.

I knew some defeatist type (based on past writing) would post about this for the other anarchist/defeatist/apologist/do-nothing-since-it's-easier-to-defend types.

The mental masturbating left will have a field day with this story. The perfect pretext for their politics of inaction. Regarding this and Abu Graib...I only regret that a camera caught the action.

[SteveStromberg]

I would have do the same thing.

The marine Could not take a chance and acted to protect his fellow marines.

Who was to know if the Isalmofastist didnt have a bomb ready to take as many marines out as he could.

In Short That Marine did the right thing.

[nostatic]

Originally posted by joeclarke
Well that caps it - the decline of the American Empire is now completely unstoppable. Nostatic was the one last bastion of rational, measured humanity that I had hoped existed on this board. If even he can absorb this as reasonable action by a fellow citizen acting on his behalf - America has gone over-the-top.

I am officially done with this board - so long folk - been good to know ya. Life is too short for the negative energy seething around here.

well, sorry to let you down, but in this case I'm tending a little towards the "walk a mile in his boots" side of things. I have never been to war. My dad has. He won't talk about it. I know that our soldiers are not perfect. I know that there are some bad apples who committ atrocities. But I'm not going to jump to a conclusion and condemn a person without considering the circumstances. We are in a lose-lose situation in Iraq. This is a horrible example of what war does to people. There are lots of "wrong place, wrong time" examples. But they happen here at home too.

If the soldier is tried and found guilty of a crime then he should be punished. After all, the family of the Iraqi is suffering. But so are the parents of the soliders that have been killed or maimed by insurgent activities.

Sorry...I just don't see this as a black and white issue. War is hell. Its just these days we have pervasive media to bring home *some* sides of the story.

[dad911]

Originally posted by gaijinda
Purry just posted the darn thing.

Purry also wrote the "Subject line" Pretty ***king sick if this is true... (Investigation of Marines shooting prisoners)

It's obvious Purry was looking for a reaction from the board by his Subject line/title.

Originally posted by Purrybonker
Shove it you troglodites - wallow in your misery.

Count me out too - last post for me.

I'll be civil. Goodbye.

[dd74]

It's funny, I saw the video, and my immediate reaction was: "Oh, well. That's war for you."

Yes, it was brutal. But you know, the same news report I saw talked of insurgents hiding in camouflaged bunkers from which, after U.S. soldiers pass, the insurgents come out and shoot the U.S. soldiers in the back. This is in addition to booby-trapping buildings, bodies, cars, etc.

I highly support our troops in Fallujah. I don't think anyone on this board is qualified to imagine the sort of scary hell that place is, or truly knows how it can debilitate one's reasoning power. The two posters who believe this is murder in the 1st or what-have-you, obviously have not entertained the troops' side of the story.

[Mule]

Well Duck, I believe that was the reaction of anyone without some serious anti_American bent. These people are intent on practicing war with no rules. We need to show them what the result of that is at thier expense, not ours!

[Neilk]

I am totally opposed to Bush's going into Iraq, but war is hell and ***** is going to happen sometimes. If US soldiers were doing this on a regular basis, then we should start getting concerned, but isolated cases fall into the "War is hell" department.

[bryanthompson]

Originally posted by RallyJon
I just get fed up with all the one-sided arguments. I'll have to do a search, since I must have missed where Purrybonker and joeclarke have expressed suitable, proportional outrage at the horrors committed by the Iraqi resistance.

I was going to say the same thing, exactly.

[Purrybonker]

nostatic on the killing of an unarmed Iraqi lying face down on the floor of a mosque by a Marine...

Originally posted by nostatic
If the soldier is tried and found guilty of a crime then he should be punished. After all, the family of the Iraqi is suffering. But so are the parents of the soliders that have been killed or maimed by insurgent activities.

Sorry...I just don't see this as a black and white issue. War is hell. Its just these days we have pervasive media to bring home *some* sides of the story.

nostatic on the killing of an unarmed fish by a teenage boy...

Originally posted by nostatic
What these boys did was a crime against the values of society. And it was a vicious and distasteful attack. It shows as lack of concern for living beings, but more importantly, a lack of respect for the society and culture in which they live.

Wow- and to think that I used to be somewhat impressed with his tao.

Ok I'm really done.

Ciao

[dd74]

You're done. Good. Because until you've been there, friend, you have no idea what the soldiers are up against. Hopefully none of them are reading this thread.

[JavaBrewer]

Originally posted by Purrybonker
nostatic on the killing of an unarmed Iraqi lying face down on the floor of a mosque by a Marine...



nostatic on the killing of an unarmed fish by a teenage boy...



Wow- and to think that I used to be somewhat impressed with his tao.

Ok I'm really done.

Ciao

In all likelihood the fish was not previously shooting at or generally trying to kill the boys before they we're yanked from the tank and killed.

What a f**king lame example.

[island911]

I want to hear more about the fish that had been spending days trying to kill a teenage boy.

[lendaddy]

Now THAT is some fish!

[dd74]

Originally posted by dmoolenaar
In all likelihood the fish was not previously shooting at or generally trying to kill the boys before they we're yanked from the tank and killed.

What a f**king lame example.

Huh?

[Rot 911]

Purry from less than 2 hours ago:

Originally posted by Purrybonker

Count me out too - last post for me.

[dhoward]

Originally posted by Purrybonker
insignificant rambling snipped again.......

Ok I'm really done.

Ciao

You're such a tease...

[Mule]

Purry, maybe you could have the good fortune to have a loved one blown up by a sucessful homicide bomber, that way at least the univers would be in balance, & you might pull your head out of it's current dark confines.

[JavaBrewer]

Originally posted by dd74
Huh?

We don't seem to be able to communicate dd Was merely pointing out that an unarmed fish with no hostile intent cannot be compaired to a war situation with armed folks trying to kill target person.