Pelican Parts
Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   Pelican Parts Forums > Miscellaneous and Off Topic Forums > Off Topic Discussions


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread
Author
Thread Post New Thread    Reply
Member w/ Title Problems
 
Jason Porter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Bristol, VA
Posts: 975
We are supposed to be killing. And we have a budget crisis. I think it's cheaper to replace a bullet, than it is to feed this idiot and nurse him back to health. Basically, in war, if you don't want to die, surrender!!!

__________________
2023 Ford F-150 Platinum 5.0 Coyote FX4
2019 Toyota Sienna XLE AWD

Metal Building Erector, Recovering Porsche Guy
Old 11-16-2004, 12:08 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #41 (permalink)
Registered
 
nostatic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: SoCal
Posts: 30,318
Garage
You guys haven't seen some of the fish I've seen. There was this carp that had a bazooka. Nearly took out my car. And this largemouth bass...he was a killer. I heard he had a tank or something.

Anyone who can't see the difference between an act (wrong or right) during wartime and a senseless act of vicousness perpetrated in a clearly innocent animal during peace (if you can call LB peaceful)...we'll, let's just say you might want to up your dosage.

Unless of course the shark at the LB aquarium was armed. And in fact, I'll bet that was the case. I heard about this tiger shark that used to carry a Mac10. He was a bad mofo. So maybe those kids were just doing us a huge service trying to rid LB of terrorist fish. They're heros, dammit!
Old 11-16-2004, 12:11 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #42 (permalink)
drag racing the short bus
 
dd74's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Location, Location...
Posts: 21,983
Okay, David. I follow you. But who is the unarmed fish? Not the guy face-down in the mosque. Particularly after the marine the day before, had been injured by a booby-trapped body that injured six other marines and killed one.

Granted, in any other circumstance, the soldier would be wrong. But I take into account what he's been through/what he's seen.

I believe the ones who are most at fault are these senior colonels and generals who make it sound like Fallujah is a done deal when it obviously is not. Hearing "...we've broken the enemy," etc., can subconsciously conjure up an idea of victory, and make it more difficult to understand why an armed soldier would shoot an unarmed injured enemy combatant.

Even the media didn't suggest the soldier was wrong, and we all know how much they hate this war. The fact is Fallujah is different from Iraq in general. It's big and nasty. Anyone who thinks the marines should exercise diplomacy should go there and try it themselves.
__________________
The Terror of Tiny Town
Old 11-16-2004, 12:13 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #43 (permalink)
Semper drive!
 
rcecale's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 7,538
Garage
Quote:
Originally posted by dmoolenaar
What a f**king lame example.
We're you talking about the "shark story" or about Purry, himself?

Randy
__________________
84 944 - Alpine White
86 Carrera Targa - Guards Red - My Pelican Gallery - (Gone, but never forgotten )
One Marine's View
Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum
Old 11-16-2004, 12:14 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #44 (permalink)
Dept store Quartermaster
 
lendaddy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: I'm right here Tati
Posts: 19,858
Your stories of gun toting fish are a little far fetched my man, I don't by that for one second. I do however know of a clownfish that carries a switchblade, he's pretty good with throwing stars as well. At least I think it's a he, hmm never asked. Maybe that's why he/she is so pissed.
__________________
Cornpoppin' Pony Soldier
Old 11-16-2004, 12:15 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #45 (permalink)
Unfair and Unbalanced
 
Mule's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: From the misty mountains to the bayou country
Posts: 9,711
Why can't you clowns get it. THEY yes THEY have chosen a tactic of using live & dead humans as bomb delivery systems. Therefore our soldiers are forced to shoot first & ask questions later. Let you brother get blown up & see if you feel differently.
__________________
"SARAH'S INSIDE Obama's head!!!! He doesn't know whether to defacate or wind his watch!!!!" ~ Dennis Miller!
Old 11-16-2004, 12:16 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #46 (permalink)
 
Information Junky
 
island911's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: an island, upper left coast, USA
Posts: 73,167
Quote:
Originally posted by Jason at Pelican Parts
. . . Basically, in war, if you don't want to die, surrender!!!
Exactly!

AFAIK, this group had surrendered a day or two before . . . only to go back to shooting at our guys, from a place of worship, once again. That is, the guy shot was FAKING surrender again. ...playing dead this time. No doubt hoping he could wait for our guys to turn and leave, before he started shotting again.

Purry, you get speeders special assclownfish award.
__________________
Everyone you meet knows something you don't. - - - and a whole bunch of crap that is wrong.
Disclaimer: the above was 2¢ worth.
More information is available as my professional opinion, which is provided for an exorbitant fee.
Old 11-16-2004, 12:19 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #47 (permalink)
drag racing the short bus
 
dd74's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Location, Location...
Posts: 21,983
Yes, we need to get a "fin" up on the immediate situation there.
__________________
The Terror of Tiny Town
Old 11-16-2004, 12:19 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #48 (permalink)
Member w/ Title Problems
 
Jason Porter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Bristol, VA
Posts: 975
Quote:
Originally posted by island911
Exactly!

AFAIK, this group had surrendered a day or two before . . . only to go back to shooting at our guys, from a place of worship, once again. That is, the guy shot was FAKING surrender again. ...playing dead this time. No doubt hoping he could wait for our guys to turn and leave, before he started shotting again.

Purry, you get speeders special assclownfish award.
As far as I'm concerned, if a guy surrenders, and then starts shooting again, he just gave up his right to a surrender, legitimate or otherwise.

Shoot him in his head and move on to the next scumbag...
__________________
2023 Ford F-150 Platinum 5.0 Coyote FX4
2019 Toyota Sienna XLE AWD

Metal Building Erector, Recovering Porsche Guy
Old 11-16-2004, 12:24 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #49 (permalink)
Where is that wrench?
 
EdT82SC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Irvine, CA
Posts: 1,415
I say good riddance. My only question is how come he let the other wounded terrorists live?
__________________
Ed T.
1982 911SC
Porsche Wallpaper
Old 11-16-2004, 12:30 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #50 (permalink)
Too big to fail
 
widebody911's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Carmichael, CA
Posts: 33,894
Garage
Send a message via AIM to widebody911 Send a message via Yahoo to widebody911
Here's the vid:

http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200411/r35639_88937.asx
__________________
"You go to the track with the Porsche you have, not the Porsche you wish you had."
'03 E46 M3
'57 356A
Various VWs
Old 11-16-2004, 12:31 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #51 (permalink)
Registered
 
nostatic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: SoCal
Posts: 30,318
Garage
Quote:
Originally posted by lendaddy
Your stories of gun toting fish are a little far fetched my man, I don't by that for one second. I do however know of a clownfish that carries a switchblade, he's pretty good with throwing stars as well. At least I think it's a he, hmm never asked. Maybe that's why he/she is so pissed.
I'd expect a neocon like yourself to doubt the FACT of my gun toting fish. Michael Moore is finishing a documentary on the vast NRA/rightwing conspiracy involved in the aquatic hooligans.

And you should have seen the one that got away...
Old 11-16-2004, 12:34 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #52 (permalink)
 
Registered
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 4,612
According to ABC news who showed the footage last night, one Marine unit had engaged the enemy who surrendered because of their injuries. As the area was unsafe, the Marine unit left the wounded enemy and was going back to get them the next day. Unfortunately for the insurgents ANOTHER Marine unit came across them and one of the wounded was shot.

BFD, no ones perfect and ***** happens in combat.
__________________
Neil
'73 911S targa
Old 11-16-2004, 12:51 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #53 (permalink)
Dept store Quartermaster
 
lendaddy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: I'm right here Tati
Posts: 19,858
Quote:
Originally posted by nostatic
I'd expect a neocon like yourself to doubt the FACT of my gun toting fish. Michael Moore is finishing a documentary on the vast NRA/rightwing conspiracy involved in the aquatic hooligans.

And you should have seen the one that got away...
Ok, once while diving the reef off the Keys a big ass baracuda swam right next to me. Freaked me out. Anyway as he was going by he reached into his scales and implied to have a gun of some type in there (you know like "don't f&&k with me man I'm packing") I didn't believe him and I certainly don't believe you.
__________________
Cornpoppin' Pony Soldier

Last edited by lendaddy; 11-16-2004 at 12:57 PM..
Old 11-16-2004, 12:52 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #54 (permalink)
Registered
 
nostatic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: SoCal
Posts: 30,318
Garage
Hey, that was no baracuda...that was my ex-wife!

thank you very much...be sure to tip your server
Old 11-16-2004, 01:01 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #55 (permalink)
drag racing the short bus
 
dd74's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Location, Location...
Posts: 21,983
Quote:
Originally posted by EdT82SC
I say good riddance. My only question is how come he let the other wounded terrorists live?
IIRC, the other two was a bearded "older" looking man slumped against a wall, and another who was partially slumped on the bearded man. The older man seemed to move as if alive - but looked not long for this world, so I imagine there was no question he wasn't up to any sort of activity. The second guy looked dead.

But again, the operative word in all this is "looked." I would imagine all assumptions go out the window at this rate. Who knows, though, what really was going on; I think the "history" of the soldier/shooter and what he witnessed the day before is as important as his action against the injured enemy. Not at all a black and white situation.
__________________
The Terror of Tiny Town
Old 11-16-2004, 01:20 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #56 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 3,019
I would expect that the terrorist in question made some move that appeared to the soldier as if he might have been reaching for a detonator or something. That would be a very reasonable explanation given past days events. Doesn't mean that its 'ok' by any means, but it was surely necessary given the circumstances.
Old 11-16-2004, 01:25 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #57 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 4,362
Joe Clark and Purrybonker- Pretty easy to armchair quarterback from in front of a CRT isn't it? Might be a little different if you were the guy in the middle of combat.

Don't come off as so self-righteous. You tried and convicted your own fellow citizen and a soldier before hearing his side. Who's really the bad guy(s) here?
Old 11-16-2004, 01:47 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #58 (permalink)
Information Junky
 
island911's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: an island, upper left coast, USA
Posts: 73,167
I think that they are both Canadian, eh?
__________________
Everyone you meet knows something you don't. - - - and a whole bunch of crap that is wrong.
Disclaimer: the above was 2¢ worth.
More information is available as my professional opinion, which is provided for an exorbitant fee.
Old 11-16-2004, 02:07 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #59 (permalink)
rcm rcm is offline
Registered
 
rcm's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Sunapee,NH
Posts: 1,161
see ya.

__________________
Rick


" too many people spend money they haven't earned to buy things they don't want to impress people they don't like" Will Smith
Old 11-16-2004, 02:38 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #60 (permalink)
Reply


 


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 01:29 AM.


 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2025 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page
 

DTO Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.