Telling The Fallujah Story To The World

[rcecale]

Submitted for discussion. Can we please keep it civil? (Yeah, right! )

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Randy

[bryanthompson]

PowerPoint?? Anyone got the cliff notes?

Also, please, stay on topic.

[rcecale]

In case you don't have (or want) PowerPoint, you can download a PowerPoint Viewer here.

Randy.

p.s. Now can we get back on topic and stop with the software bashin, please?

[rrpjr]

I'm curious the source of this information. In any case, it offers statistical look at terrorist rat's nest in Falluja, e.g., high number of mosques used for weapons storage or as combat posts (law of war violations), discovery of large amounts of weaponry and IED (improvised explosive devices), evidence of slaughterhouses (war crimes -- what, no Red Cross outrage?) and important base of terrorist operations city had become. This follows intercepted email last week of terrorist leader making plea to Islamic world for money, munitions and trained men because Fallujah had been a major setback for them. Story was hard to pick up in national media. What a surprise. It took the NY Times fourteen paragraphs into a story on page 10 to concede that Fallujah battle was a "blow" to terrorists. And they chose to use the more delicate term "insurgents." Perhaps better than the LA Times, which calls them "rebels."

[widebody911]

I didn't look at the slideshow, and I'm sure it's another desperate attempt to get some sort of validation for this pathetic war - and I'm categorically against this war in general.

But from a tactical standpoint, I think if someone is using a mosque, temple, church, synagogue, pyramid, etc as a command center/ammo dump/book-repository-sniper-hideout then by all means use appropriate force to turn it into a parking lot. If you don't have what it takes to do that in your political and moral cajones, then that's a sign you should not be there in the first place.

PS: I despise PowerPoint.

[rrpjr]

Bravo. Well put. Acknowledging your objections to the war, if we choose to have one we should do what needs to be done to win. Fallujah should not have become an issue. We had it in our sights months ago. Marines wanted to finish the job. Bush wavered. No good.

[Jeff Higgins]

Great presentation, Randy. I think the first paragraph of Thom's response kind of tells us what we are up against, though. When so much emotion surrounds an issue, no amount of facts and data will sway opinions.