I'm calling you out 69-Girlie Boy - Page 2

dtw · 08-17-2005, 05:48 AM

I've called Shaun out on his original means of handling on this too, and I think we've agreed to disagree on some things, and we've also conceded some points to each other. Fair enough.

But one thing I find disconcerting to see from otherwise respectable board members is the ridiculing and mocking of Shaun's chosen business. Of thousands of board members, Shaun is the only one who has received consistent abuse over his job. It's not been 'all in fun' either, most of it has been pretty damn mean-spirited.

Not cool.

Shaun @ Tru6 · 08-17-2005, 05:52 AM

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Originally posted by 928ram
Since it's been thrown out in OT for all to see and comment on...

Shaun; you are just plain in the wrong. If you wanted to pony up $1500 for the part, you should have done so; otherwise MYOB. Additionally; if you felt the need to be price police, you could have easily done so via PM with the seller instead of the thinly veiled personal attack on Souk.

Some of you others; sophomoric name calling based on the products Shaun sells isn't very nice either.

Play nice

hey ram, see my last post on the thread which has been sliced and diced forever, if it checks out as authentic, I'll buy it for $1500.

On PM: you are quite correct. but it wasn't an attack on Souk until he made it one. That's where the disinformation spin game kicks in and unfortunately, the posts have been edited out that bear this out to be true. The only remainder is my incredulous reply that Souk wouldn't snap this up at $1500.

It was Souk who made it all about the tail isn't worth even close to $1500.

I think as evidenced by offer to help him on his urgent transmission, I don't harbor ill will toward him, and even now, my reputation is fine on this board. I've made good friends, sold good parts, and at times provided good info on the Technical Forum.

Shaun @ Tru6 · 08-17-2005, 05:55 AM

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Originally posted by Joeaksa
Shawn,

If you had done this at a swap meat here in Arizona you are correct, you would be in for a A$$ whupping. What was done is just not correct, no matter what your reasons.

Why you feel that you had to stick your nose in this is beyond me, other than to stir the brown material. Are you interested in buying the ducktail? If not then move on. If you and Souk want to have a "discussion" then do it alone. Had you really given a damm about Bruce and the value of the ducktail you could have simply PM'ed him and told him, not posted it to try to get back at Souk then held your hands up in the air saying "I was just trying to be the good guy" when in reality you were trying to be much worse.

Your real colors are coming out and its not good. Would be a nice time to take some time off the forums and try to rebuild your reputation on Pelican, if you can...

Joe A

Joe, please see my response to 928ram, and please re-read my other posts on the why. Really, it will clear things up for you. BTW, you can also check out the ducktail thread, I'll buy it for $1500.

Shaun @ Tru6 · 08-17-2005, 06:06 AM

Everyone who wants to comment. I welcome them, truly I do. But I want to clear something up.

My original post had nothing to do with Souk. It was his post at how ridiculous my post was that sparked the debate. Simple as that. I still feel pretty good about it. Having a personal philosophy in life means sticking to it, in the good times and the bad.

Michael recently posted "the measure of a man" a few days ago.

Here is my response. I hope this clears up my intentions.

The Measure of a Man

I live by this and is what guided my original post.

Nothing more, nothing less.

BGCarrera32 · 08-17-2005, 06:07 AM

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Originally posted by Souk
The only anger management I need boy is to dish it out on your ******* arse.

Souk @ MotoMotions-Innovative Engineering for the 911 Enthusiast

Excellent representation of your business. It never fails to amaze me...

cantdrv55 · 08-17-2005, 06:14 AM

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Originally posted by dtw
But one thing I find disconcerting to see from otherwise respectable board members is the ridiculing and mocking of Shaun's chosen business. Of thousands of board members, Shaun is the only one who has received consistent abuse over his job. It's not been 'all in fun' either, most of it has been pretty damn mean-spirited.

Not cool.

You know it isn't cool either how Shaun belittles those who express a different political opinion, calling them stupid, dumb, ignorant, etc. He made have made a lot of friends here but looks like he's made a lot of enemies as well. And, I doubt if they're all because of the classifieds.

I agree, though, that it's poor form to ridicule Shaun's business. He'll be the one laughing come IPO time.

MotoSook · 08-17-2005, 06:16 AM

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Originally posted by BGCarrera32
Souk @ MotoMotions-Innovative Engineering for the 911 Enthusiast

Excellent representation of your business. It never fails to amaze me...

I'm cool with that man. My no-BS attitude is exactly how I run my business. Read between the lines and you WILL be amazed.

Shaun @ Tru6 · 08-17-2005, 06:16 AM

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Originally posted by Joeaksa

Your real colors are coming out and its not good. Would be a nice time to take some time off the forums and try to rebuild your reputation on Pelican, if you can...

Joe A

Joe, I don't see how taking time out will rebuild any reputation which may or may not have been damaged. the quality of my posts speak for themselves. The quality of the parts I sell and all very satisfied customers speak for themselves. The quality of my friendships on this board, etc.

Souk has cast several aspersions on my character, namely I've screwed people over. No less than 5 times have I asked him to post these.

the only aspersion I've casted on Souk's character is that he is a lowballer, and as evidenced by his own replies in the ducktail thread and the 3.2 thread, they are born out. Hell, Noah even confirmed this. Souk calls it "my price." I call it using information at the expense of others within a community.

Do it on ebay, do it at a swap meet, don't do it here. I stand by that.

Again, these boards are apart of Wayne's marketing program. If someone gets screwed on these boards, it's Pelican's reputation that gets thrown into hte mix.

Shaun @ Tru6 · 08-17-2005, 06:21 AM

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Originally posted by Souk
Your BS is going to cost you $1500. Your image will take a lot more to clean up! Why don't you be a bigger man (or try) and let the free bidding occur and you pay what ever that last bid is.

My reaction in the original thread was more to your BS than the price. If Bruce had gotten it for a steal, and was going to get some money out of it, he simply could have told me what he wanted. It's that simple.

The classifieds is an open market, no different than a swap meet. Actually, I recall Wayne picked up a 666XXX case for dirt cheap at Pomona, and he was glad to post about it. Do a search. So I guess, trying to find deals in the classifieds is still bad 'cuse Shaun said so...give me a break man.

As for attacks on Shaun's chosen business. He brings it on himself. Sorry...it is what it is. His behavior is not unlike that of Derrick and look where that got him. If anyone is really going to appoint themselves "Police" of the brand...then they should police the BS like this guy is spewing. If you deal in BS...it's gonna wash out into the other aspects of your life Shaun...

Souk, please tell us all exactly what you mean about being just like Derrick. (acutally Derek)

You are good at broad generalizations, but no details. If you are going to say I am X or Y, please back it up. That's all I ask.

And the classifieds is not an open market like a swap meet. I've detailed that on many other posts here. Take a read.

Joeaksa · 08-17-2005, 06:21 AM

Shawn,

Read the original post. Bruce was selling the ducktail on Pelican for a price he knew was lower than it was worth. He wanted to sell it and Souk wanted to buy it. Low baller, well Bruce set a price and Souk wanted to buy it for that price. If you have a problem with that then you have other issues that need working on. You are not here to protect the world of 911 owners....

Your comment was not constructive in any way, it was there only to cause trouble. The two of you may have had issues in the past but you are doing a very fine job of keeping the brown material slinging.

If you are the fine person you seem to feel that you are then be a man, and face off with Souk, but do it directly and away from the forum, not trying to cause more problems, which is what is happening in the Ducktail thread as well as this one.

JoeA

cantdrv55 · 08-17-2005, 06:21 AM

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Originally posted by Shaun 84 Targa

Again, these boards are apart of Wayne's marketing program. If someone gets screwed on these boards, it's Pelican's reputation that gets thrown into hte mix.

I think Noah, who is Wayne's man in the classifieds, told you to stop interfering. So unless Wayne chimes in and tells Noah he was out of line, your argument above won't hold.

Shaun @ Tru6 · 08-17-2005, 06:27 AM

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Originally posted by cantdrv55
You know it isn't cool either how Shaun belittles those who express a different political opinion, calling them stupid, dumb, ignorant, etc. He made have made a lot of friends here but looks like he's made a lot of enemies as well. And, I doubt if they're all because of the classifieds.

I agree, though, that it's poor form to ridicule Shaun's business. He'll be the one laughing come IPO time.

Thanks. Actually, I don't believe I've made one enemy from selling something on the classifieds. Souk has made several comments that he knows of many people I've screwed over, but he won't post them. I'd wonder why.

I'd also wonder what kind of man would take yesterday's business and carries it over to today.

And lastly, I've definitely made enemies here in OT, but I've also gained the respect of people on the other side and I'm happy about that. Yes, there are definitely times when I've lost it, haven't we all, but on the whole, I am very pleased with the quality of information and opinion in my posts here.

BTW, your doors on your targa, depending on how far they are out, they may be intentionally "unflush." My targa's were too, and when I adjusted them to more flush I got extra road grime and dirt in my door post. Pulled them back out.

Shaun @ Tru6 · 03:05 AM

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Originally posted by Joeaksa
Shawn,

Read the original post. Bruce was selling the ducktail on Pelican for a price he knew was lower than it was worth. He wanted to sell it and Souk wanted to buy it. Low baller, well Bruce set a price and Souk wanted to buy it for that price. If you have a problem with that then you have other issues that need working on. You are not here to protect the world of 911 owners....

Your comment was not constructive in any way, it was there only to cause trouble. The two of you may have had issues in the past but you are doing a very fine job of keeping the brown material slinging.

If you are the fine person you seem to feel that you are then be a man, and face off with Souk, but do it directly and away from the forum, not trying to cause more problems, which is what is happening in the Ducktail thread as well as this one.

JoeA

Joe, the edited post was dead yesterday. I came in to work today to find Souk posting this thread. Mark and I had some fun, but again, look at who is initiating this post dead thread. I'll take my lumps for the very first post, but not for carrying so much anger around and forcing it onto the Pelican community at large. Please read Souk's first posts on this thread. Does any of that seem appropriate after a dead thread yesterday?

As evidenced by my post to help Souk out on his urgent transmission need as well as these continued posts by him to keep the fight going, I feel pretty good about being the one to not only not hold a grudge, but to have gone out of my way to find this info and post it for him.

08-17-2005, 06:38 AM

Did the guy selling the ducktail ever ask for an opinion on pricing? Did Souk ever make a public offer? Did Shaun step in and accuse Souk of making a lowball offer without knowing what the offer was? Did Shaun overstep his bounds because he has a littletshirtgirl hardon against Souk?
No
No
Yes
Yes

Methinks Shaunboy has a little ego issue where he thinks he knows better than anyone else. Shaun, did you get your ego and built up self respect from tshirts????? G9ious.......

Shaun @ Tru6 · 08-17-2005, 06:40 AM

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Originally posted by Souk
Someone who cares about his reputation you twit. That's a good attempt to get on the high road though...keep tryign. If I didn't care, I'd take chances and screw people over too, hoping they won't rat you out. Ratting you out with the details is their business. They can decide if then want to put up with your BS and weak arguement as to why you screwed them.

Sure..you can say that this thread is not good for my reputation, but I cool with that. Those that can read between the lines will understand that a good man won't sit still for the crap this guy is dishing out. And what I do with a wrench stands on its own merit.

I'm passionate about what I do, and I'm surely passionate about not letting some idiot trash me.

to the best of my knowledge Souk, you have a good reputation, especially when it comes to engineering. I posted earlier about the quality of your posts. I've also received a few PMs and emails that say you are a good guy and can't understand what you are doing, and why. Your friends, people you have sold things to and were happy with the transaction, are baffled. you should know that.

This thread is not good for your reputation. It makes you seem angry and that you hold a grudge and that you will go out of your way to pay back a vendetta, real or not.

This thread is also bad for you because you make accusations which you won't back up. you lose credibility here.

Clearly you are passionate about what you do. Your knowledgebase and posts clearly demonstrate that. Just don't let the dark side of being passionate get the better of you. It's a slippery slope.

Shaun @ Tru6 · 08-17-2005, 06:44 AM

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Originally posted by Mark Wilson
Did the guy selling the ducktail ever ask for an opinion on pricing? Did Souk ever make a public offer? Did Shaun step in and accuse Souk of making a lowball offer without knowing what the offer was? Did Shaun overstep his bounds because he has a littletshirtgirl hardon against Souk?
No
No
Yes
Yes

Methinks Shaunboy has a little ego issue where he thinks he knows better than anyone else. Shaun, did you get your ego and built up self respect from tshirts????? G9ious.......

OK Jesus (for those of you just tuning in, please take a look at the ducktail thread), look, I didn't accuse Souk of anything until he came back at me saying that $1500 was a ridiculous estimate of value. I posted an estimate of what I thought it was worth. that's all I did.

Shaun @ Tru6 · 08-17-2005, 06:48 AM

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Originally posted by Souk
Not so buddy, my credibility is intack. Like I said, some folks have a better threshold for your BS than I do. Grugde...nahh...not until you nose in on my business. I'm comfortable with this thread because I know my comments in the other will not defend my position. And if those e-mails exist...post it! Soon that high road you seek will no longer exist.

My actions carry no BS. I don't spin the truth...people are watching Shaun.

Souk, your comments here don't defend your position. But I've got to wonder what this is really all about.

and for Pete's sake, please post some details of your accusations against me. Otherwise they are just rags scuttling across the floor in an abandoned warehouse.

Westy · 08-17-2005, 06:52 AM

Shaun, for what it's worth. I do feel you are condenscending to others, often outright rude. You've never said anything adverse to me, but I don't post much anymore. I don't understand your remark about yesterdays business. I just read the thread about the democrats, and you posted for several days there, repeating your argument over and over.

Maybe (probably) there are people on this BBS that are not overly inteligent. Advising them of this is not a constructive action. We all work (except for Tabby), and we all have families. You aren't the spokesman for us, so let it alone.

I do agree, however, that to make assaults on your business, pedophile inuendos, is wrong. So let's add up the score. Everyone is wrong a little. Some more than others. Careful you don't burn up in the atmosphere when you come back down to earth.

JMHO

Bob!!!

cantdrv55 · 08-17-2005, 06:53 AM

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Originally posted by Shaun 84 Targa
BTW, your doors on your targa, depending on how far they are out, they may be intentionally "unflush." My targa's were too, and when I adjusted them to more flush I got extra road grime and dirt in my door post. Pulled them back out.

Huh, good point. Thanks for the advice. Still think you're wrong about the ducktail issue though.

See, we can differ without resorting to name calling.

TerryBPP · 08-17-2005, 06:55 AM

I love you guys.