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I've called Shaun out on his original means of handling on this too, and I think we've agreed to disagree on some things, and we've also conceded some points to each other. Fair enough.
But one thing I find disconcerting to see from otherwise respectable board members is the ridiculing and mocking of Shaun's chosen business. Of thousands of board members, Shaun is the only one who has received consistent abuse over his job. It's not been 'all in fun' either, most of it has been pretty damn mean-spirited. Not cool.
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On PM: you are quite correct. but it wasn't an attack on Souk until he made it one. That's where the disinformation spin game kicks in and unfortunately, the posts have been edited out that bear this out to be true. The only remainder is my incredulous reply that Souk wouldn't snap this up at $1500. It was Souk who made it all about the tail isn't worth even close to $1500. I think as evidenced by offer to help him on his urgent transmission, I don't harbor ill will toward him, and even now, my reputation is fine on this board. I've made good friends, sold good parts, and at times provided good info on the Technical Forum.
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Everyone who wants to comment. I welcome them, truly I do. But I want to clear something up.
My original post had nothing to do with Souk. It was his post at how ridiculous my post was that sparked the debate. Simple as that. I still feel pretty good about it. Having a personal philosophy in life means sticking to it, in the good times and the bad. Michael recently posted "the measure of a man" a few days ago. Here is my response. I hope this clears up my intentions. The Measure of a Man I live by this and is what guided my original post. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Souk has cast several aspersions on my character, namely I've screwed people over. No less than 5 times have I asked him to post these. the only aspersion I've casted on Souk's character is that he is a lowballer, and as evidenced by his own replies in the ducktail thread and the 3.2 thread, they are born out. Hell, Noah even confirmed this. Souk calls it "my price." I call it using information at the expense of others within a community. Do it on ebay, do it at a swap meet, don't do it here. I stand by that. Again, these boards are apart of Wayne's marketing program. If someone gets screwed on these boards, it's Pelican's reputation that gets thrown into hte mix.
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You are good at broad generalizations, but no details. If you are going to say I am X or Y, please back it up. That's all I ask. And the classifieds is not an open market like a swap meet. I've detailed that on many other posts here. Take a read.
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Read the original post. Bruce was selling the ducktail on Pelican for a price he knew was lower than it was worth. He wanted to sell it and Souk wanted to buy it. Low baller, well Bruce set a price and Souk wanted to buy it for that price. If you have a problem with that then you have other issues that need working on. You are not here to protect the world of 911 owners.... Your comment was not constructive in any way, it was there only to cause trouble. The two of you may have had issues in the past but you are doing a very fine job of keeping the brown material slinging. If you are the fine person you seem to feel that you are then be a man, and face off with Souk, but do it directly and away from the forum, not trying to cause more problems, which is what is happening in the Ducktail thread as well as this one. JoeA
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I'd also wonder what kind of man would take yesterday's business and carries it over to today. And lastly, I've definitely made enemies here in OT, but I've also gained the respect of people on the other side and I'm happy about that. Yes, there are definitely times when I've lost it, haven't we all, but on the whole, I am very pleased with the quality of information and opinion in my posts here. BTW, your doors on your targa, depending on how far they are out, they may be intentionally "unflush." My targa's were too, and when I adjusted them to more flush I got extra road grime and dirt in my door post. Pulled them back out.
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As evidenced by my post to help Souk out on his urgent transmission need as well as these continued posts by him to keep the fight going, I feel pretty good about being the one to not only not hold a grudge, but to have gone out of my way to find this info and post it for him.
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Did the guy selling the ducktail ever ask for an opinion on pricing? Did Souk ever make a public offer? Did Shaun step in and accuse Souk of making a lowball offer without knowing what the offer was? Did Shaun overstep his bounds because he has a littletshirtgirl hardon against Souk?
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This thread is not good for your reputation. It makes you seem angry and that you hold a grudge and that you will go out of your way to pay back a vendetta, real or not. This thread is also bad for you because you make accusations which you won't back up. you lose credibility here. Clearly you are passionate about what you do. Your knowledgebase and posts clearly demonstrate that. Just don't let the dark side of being passionate get the better of you. It's a slippery slope.
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and for Pete's sake, please post some details of your accusations against me. Otherwise they are just rags scuttling across the floor in an abandoned warehouse.
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Shaun, for what it's worth. I do feel you are condenscending to others, often outright rude. You've never said anything adverse to me, but I don't post much anymore. I don't understand your remark about yesterdays business. I just read the thread about the democrats, and you posted for several days there, repeating your argument over and over.
Maybe (probably) there are people on this BBS that are not overly inteligent. Advising them of this is not a constructive action. We all work (except for Tabby), and we all have families. You aren't the spokesman for us, so let it alone. I do agree, however, that to make assaults on your business, pedophile inuendos, is wrong. So let's add up the score. Everyone is wrong a little. Some more than others. Careful you don't burn up in the atmosphere when you come back down to earth. JMHO Bob!!!
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