I'm calling you out 69-Girlie Boy - Page 4

Shaun @ Tru6 · 08-17-2005, 07:49 AM

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Originally posted by Joeaksa
And if this philosophy includes doing what was done to Souk with the Ducktail, as you said, you would be in for a beating!

There have been several people (not just Souk) who have chimed in and said that you did something on the forum that was not correct in their, and others view. Its your actions that are pissing people off yet you continue to deny doing anything. Keep digging the hole deeper but its not helping.

JoeA

Joe, Souk did himself in on the ducktail.

on the others that chimed in, can list specifics, perhaps I missed something? waiting on dhoward.

Guys again, if you want to treat pelican as a common flea market, go ahead. Just know that I don't.

Shaun @ Tru6 · 08-17-2005, 07:51 AM

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Originally posted by einreb
no... i said, "bit of a prick"... you got chastised by noah... a pretty level headed guy, no?

"but probably won't?" you just did

Chain Reaction was going to be a big post with a link. let's not parse.

yes, I got chastised by Noah, but a bit of prick is a stretch.

Why the rolleyes?

Joeaksa · 08-17-2005, 07:52 AM

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Originally posted by Shaun 84 Targa
Joe, Souk did himself in on the ducktail.

on the others that chimed in, can list specifics, perhaps I missed something? waiting on dhoward.

Guys again, if you want to treat pelican as a common flea market, go ahead. Just know that I don't.

Believe you have it backwards. You did yourself in on the Ducktail thread. Unless you were going to buy the part, there was no reason for you to post, period.

We treat it as it is, and are treating you right now as you deserve. You yourself said that if you did this at a swap meet that you would be beaten. Well, you asked for it, continue to ask for it and its happening...

JoeA

vash · vash's Garage

this reminds me of "lord of the flies"

when i find a hobby that i like, i tend to jump in blind. in the beginning i did this with 911's. i had a 75 car with an early carrera tail (?) from the factory. my stepdad bought it back in 75 and porsche installed it. i still have the receipt. i still know relatively little about our cars compared to most of you guys. i find myself dependent on this forum and your advice more times than i would like. well anyways, i guess i have different taste than my stepdad, because i thought that huge tail looked strange on my narrow body targa, so i decided to sell it. i offered it first to cantdrv55, i let him name the price because i didnt know. turned out he didnt want it, but in my mind i was ok with $250 to 300. i was just about to offer it up on pelican, but a friend told me i was insane. apparently it is worth more. he saved me more than money, he save me some (let's call it) face. me and chris just met each other, i think he would have bought it if he thought it looked good on his car. to this day, i still shop at the friend's shop...partsheaven.

personally, i dont care if you guys dont get along. but i have been on both sides of the arguement. and both souk and shaun as helped me along in my 911 adventures.

dhoward · dhoward's Garage

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Originally posted by Shaun 84 Targa
Hmmm. I did a search on your name in Classifieds and only came up with the 3.2 thread. Is that really your only post in all of Classifieds? This is what started it all:

"FS 3.2 complete engine. What is a fair price?"

FS 3.2 complete engine. What is a fair price?

Take a read on that thing! Whoa! And see, I forgot all about that, moved on as it were.

No.
What I said was, I didn't pursue it.
Just because it wasn't in the thread doesn't mean I wasn't interested in the wheels, I think it was, (quite a while back).
My point is, ...aww nevermind.
I think there are plenty of examples where you presented your opinions on prices where they weren't asked for.
That's where all this comes from...

Westy · 08-17-2005, 07:57 AM

Cliff, quit kissing butt,,,,,you're better than that.

PS. xoxox

Shaun @ Tru6 · 08-17-2005, 07:59 AM

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Originally posted by Joeaksa
Believe you have it backwards. You did yourself in on the Ducktail thread. Unless you were going to buy the part, there was no reason for you to post, period.

We treat it as it is, and are treating you right now as you deserve. You yourself said that if you did this at a swap meet that you would be beaten. Well, you asked for it, continue to ask for it and its happening...

JoeA

Joe, I have an open offer for $1500 on the ducktail.

my first post was benign at best until souk posted his response.

At a swap meet, Joe, we'd have words, beaten would be something we'd have to discuss. Here in a community, I've got to say I'm surprised. And I don't feel beaten at all. It's really nice to have the highground on this one. I've admitted many times in OT when I've been wrong. This Joe, is not one of them.

Joe, as I see it, you are on the side that it's OK for someone with knowledge to take advantage of someone without it, throwing caution to the wind in terms of reperussions.

I am on hte side that this is a community, and as such we look out for each other, especially the inexperienced and ill-informed.

I feel pretty comfortable over here. I wish you'd join me.

vash · vash's Garage

i am not kissing any butt. camaroboy!

bryanthompson · bryanthompson's Garage

Shaun, you keep saying that you're on the side that just wants to help everyone, you don't want anyone to get screwed, yadda yadda yadda...

and everyone is replying that they don't want you to get involved. Just take a step back and see how the rest of us, who don't hang out in the 911 classified forum is seeing this.

Shaun @ Tru6 · 08-17-2005, 08:02 AM

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Originally posted by dhoward
No.
What I said was, I didn't pursue it.
Just because it wasn't in the thread doesn't mean I wasn't interested in the wheels, I think it was, (quite a while back).
My point is, ...aww nevermind.
I think there are plenty of examples where you presented your opinions on prices where they weren't asked for.
That's where all this comes from...

All I ask is for those examples to brought to light for everyone to see.

First there were claims that I've wronged people, screwed them over. I asked that they be presented. None have been.

Now there are claims where I've, on many occasions, posted my opinion on value where it was not asked for. I've posted an occasion where it was asked for, and the ensuing debate.

Guys, I've yet to see ANY hard evidence on the charges being brought.

I'll own up to them. You've seen me admit mistakes here on OT time and again.

Bottom line is if you are going to make accusations about a man's character, have the balls to back it up.

cantdrv55 · 08-17-2005, 08:05 AM

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Originally posted by Shaun 84 Targa
What was his rationale for the rebuild?

............His professional experience.

Why 25K more miles?

How much oil do you burn every 1K now?
............My motor burns 1 qt/600 miles

$8K for a top end rebuild is very high BTW.
.............I realize that.

My experience: have had 2 3.2 cars, 84 and 86. both went to well over 200K miles before needing to be opened up. Why my 241K mile 3.2 burned a quart every 700 miles, within factory spec, when I sold it.

More experience:
Getting out of school I apprenticed at a local Porsche race shop. I've done their books on and off for years and am active friends with them. If a 3.2 passes the 80K mile mark and your valve guides make it through, there's a good shot at seeing 200K before it needs to be opened up.

...............Luck of the draw, but according to two wrenches I consulted, 3.2 motors will need to be opened up way before the 200K mark.

But don't take my word for it, just read what Bruce Anderson has to say.

Shaun @ Tru6 · 08-17-2005, 08:05 AM

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Originally posted by bryanthompson
Shaun, you keep saying that you're on the side that just wants to help everyone, you don't want anyone to get screwed, yadda yadda yadda...

and everyone is replying that they don't want you to get involved. Just take a step back and see how the rest of us, who don't hang out in the 911 classified forum is seeing this.

Brian, you've hit the nail on the head. You guys who aren't in tech or classifieds don't understand the community aspect, the trust built, etc.

I've bought and sold a ton of stuff on Classifieds. and I've got happy customers to those I've sold to.

When will those details be brought in the light of day on all the people I've screwed?

Bryan, OT is something completely different. The commonality is Left and Right and "just stuff" that's cool. In the tech and classifieds, it's all about guys helping guys.

if you don't understand that because you aren't part of it, back off, that's all I'm saying.

cantdrv55 · 08-17-2005, 08:08 AM

Shaun was right about one thing; this is one fun and interesting thread. But I gotta get to work. See y'all later.

Shaun @ Tru6 · 08-17-2005, 08:08 AM

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Originally posted by cantdrv55

Wrenches who want to separate $ from your wallet. I'm guessing you get Excellence, just pick up hte most recent copy that has a price report on SCs and Carreras.

read what Bruce, the undisputed expert, has to say about the subject.

Shaun @ Tru6 · 08-17-2005, 08:10 AM

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Originally posted by Souk
No one was trying to take advantage of anyone. My e-mail to Bruce was simply to ask what he wanted! As it turned out Bruce did know what he had.

There are those that can see the light...and those still stuck in a cave. The continued posting on this thread is indicative of that....my work is nearing its end.

Your work is done when you post about all the people I've screwed over. then you are done.

Shaun @ Tru6 · 08-17-2005, 08:13 AM

On my dealings, here are two examples from the sticky Official Positive Feedback Thread. If you want me to go into email, I'll do that too.

Jandrews
7-5-2005
Traded for some Guards Red power mirrors with Shaun 84 Targa. The mirrors exceeded my expecation as far as condition goes, and Shaun voluntarily accepted a significantly better deal than we originally agreed to! It doesn't get any better than that!

All the best to Shaun 84 Targa!

Zeke
1-18-2005
While I'm at it, Shaun84Targa has sent me things for nothing. And Jamie Novak (jpnovak) has sent me more than I asked for on an a-arm deal and then turned around and sent me some fender bolts for nothing. Shaun offered to send some too. While, I've sent off a few things for nothing, I really get tickled when someone does that for me. Both these guys are 1st class!

cantdrv55 · 08-17-2005, 08:16 AM

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Originally posted by Shaun 84 Targa
Wrenches who want to separate $ from your wallet. I'm guessing you get Excellence, just pick up hte most recent copy that has a price report on SCs and Carreras.

read what Bruce, the undisputed expert, has to say about the subject.

What would you pay for a rebuild, Shaun (this is a serious question, btw)? Also, isn't BA the one who overprices the cars in Excellence? I don't know anyone who's paid nearly as much as he says the acrs are worth. No knock on BA, just unrealistic pricing is all.

Jim Richards · 08-17-2005, 08:18 AM

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Originally posted by Shaun 84 Targa
Joe, I have an open offer for $1500 on the ducktail.

Not when you first opened your mouth. Only this morning did you come out and make an offer...after a lot of asking about being in the game. With your skills at spinning the truth to your version of reality, you might have a future in Washington if your t-shirt business doesn't pan out.

Shaun @ Tru6 · 08-17-2005, 08:21 AM

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Originally posted by Souk
I guess you are policing my posts now. Promote youself to Commissioner of Police now.

Five pages and you are still ignorant.

That's only because you have done a poor job in proving your point, made a ton of accusations with nothing to back it up and allowed me to find and post concrete examples of your generally bad behavior when it comes to parts.

Souk, I've said it before, you are an asset to the tech forum. Parts, clearly no. this post, there are many who don't understand what you've done or why and are shaking their heads thinking you are better than this.

Want to confirm this? Don't ask your friends, they'll tell you what you want to hear. Ask your customers, the ones who are merely acquaintances. These are the people emailing/PMing me about this thread.

Honestly, this is the best way you can hurt your business. Whether you are right or wrong, people see that you are angry and vengeful and people don't want to do business with people like that.

Me? Not a whole lot of boutique owners reading this thread.

if you aren't going to post specifics of my screwing over people, you really should apologize and move on. As I said before, I don't carry grudges.

Count to 10 before replying.

Shaun @ Tru6 · 08-17-2005, 08:23 AM

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Originally posted by Jim Richards
Not when you first opened your mouth. Only this morning did you come out and make an offer...after a lot of asking about being in the game. With your skills at spinning the truth to your version of reality, you might have a future in Washington if your t-shirt business doesn't pan out.

Jim, I emailed Bruce yesterday.

Did you see my other post? I received an email from a personal friend of yours wanting to know how badly I wronged for you to be in the game.