Now THIS Is Just WRONG!!!

[Tim Hancock]

Well put Jeff, I was thinking about the same.

[KevinP73]

One thing stands out in that picture. If this were real would the wounds caused by such an injury be so clean around the punctures? I can see that perhaps the wounds had been cleaned by someone rescuing the animal, but if that were the case wouldn't they have removed the hooks or at least removed the cable attached to it?
Also interesting is how it's the French who are given credit for such cruelty. It's not as though the French are held in much regard here in the states.

[M.D. Holloway]

Originally posted by K. Roman
I'd have to highly disagree with that statement. Only because I just bought some the other day to try for the first time. I made a couple of steaks, one for me and one for my girlfriend. I made a marinade of 3 cloves of crushed garlic, an ounce of olive oil, an ounce of soy sauce, a half ounce of sesame oil, a few crusched cubes of crystalized ginger, a teaspoon of sugar, and salt and pepper. after letting it soak, sear it in a pan with a little butter on medium high. for about three minutes a side. it is unbelievable. Best fish I've had at home and the girlfriend agrees.

K. Roman - that recipe would make my sons sneaker taste great! I will say that your prep will be copied for sure, but try that with tuna or just try some nice red snapper or chilian sea bass grilled with butter and lemon only - simple yet great.

I have eaten fresh Mako and to me it is a cheap version of sword fish IMO. The best tasting fish is Black Fish (aka Tautoug sp.). They eat crab and lobster - found in the NE. Taste like crab/lobster, easy enough to catch and a well kept secret.

BTW - This is my vivid attempt at changing the grusome subject matter. Still tough getting that image out of my head...

[scottmandue]

This thread should come with a warning in the title.

Even if it is a photoshop of just a picture of an unfortunate accident.

I can't stand to look at the picture but at first glance but it does seem that the hooks would pull out if you tried to drag a dog that way.

[dd74]

Originally posted by KevinP73
One thing stands out in that picture. If this were real would the wounds caused by such an injury be so clean around the punctures? I can see that perhaps the wounds had been cleaned by someone rescuing the animal, but if that were the case wouldn't they have removed the hooks or at least removed the cable attached to it?
Also interesting is how it's the French who are given credit for such cruelty. It's not as though the French are held in much regard here in the states.

Kev - as they say, it's the mere thought that counts, whether the images are real or not.

Last night, a neighborhood dog was barking and howling in distress, and it took everything some of the other neighbors (myself included) not to walk out with pitchforks and flaming torches to confront the owner - who's a loudmouth a-hole that makes it habit of yelling at his kids in the middle of his driveway, and likes to drive his friggin' Navigator 60 mph up and down the street when everyone else's kid is outside riding bikes. We're very different about animals (mostly) in this country.

I worked with a Filipino guy, straight from Manilla, who once announced his profound taste for dog meat. It was a great way for him to no longer have company during his coffee breaks.

[KevinP73]

Originally posted by dd74
Kev - as they say, it's the mere thought that counts, whether the images are real or not.:

Sorry Dave I don't really agree. This information is being offered in an attempt to gain my sympathy or support for their cause. They offered photographic evidence to support their cause. IMHO Their cause becomes suspect when I find out that their evidence is falsified.
That whole "it's the thought that counts" crap only applies when the ring she wanted is beyond what he could afford.

[dd74]

Originally posted by KevinP73
Sorry Dave I don't really agree. This information is being offered in an attempt to gain my sympathy or support for their cause. They offered photographic evidence to support their cause. IMHO Their cause becomes suspect when I find out that their evidence is falsified.
That whole "it's the thought that counts" crap only applies when the ring she wanted is beyond what he could afford.

Is it Snopes who states it's falsified?

BTW: about the ring: haven't men yet evolved to the point they can at the same time think and be "in love," "lust," "smitten," and/or drunk in Vegas in front of an Elvis impersonator holding a marriage license?

[Dan Mc Intyre]

Man, that's so twisted that I could never have even thought something like that up. He11, I don't even like dogs.


dan

[M.D. Holloway]

If I was gonna fish for shark using a dog as bait, I would put the hook through it's shoulder blades or rib cage and cut off the legs. Why use a live dog unless you wanted a stream of fresh blood. Seems that a fish would be better anyway. The heme from a dog would only promote an investidation bait froma squali and not a full fledged dinner chomp it would give a chunck of cod.

[osidak]

I do not care for dogs so this doesn't really affect me, judging from all of your responses you all like dogs and I can see the reaction.

However what is the difference in using one animal for bait and not another. While I am no PETA fan (hey animals are tasty) I am sure fish feel pain just as well as dogs yet we use fish as live bait.

How many of you like lobster - Lets throw a live animal into boiling water and let it cook, cruel but that is the way it is done, very few of us complain.

Lets test out drugs and cosmetics on animals - I wonder if something that 50+% alcohol hurts a little bunnies eyes if we spray them. Hey I much prefer we test on animals first.

Plenty of hunters on this site. I remember a thread not too long ago where some one bragged of not hunting by massacring 100's if not thousands of Prairie dogs.... I guess those are ok cause they feel no pain and are nothing but rodents cause a good majority of you said "Cool"

Or what about blowing holes in deer......

Is the hang up because dogs are pets..... As I said before I don't like them. I tend to prefer cats but it doesn't bother me to know people eat them in other parts of the world.

How about cows - Hell they are sacred in India and we slaughter them left and right. Steak yummy. Who the hell cares about India and their weird customs......

[KevinP73]

Originally posted by dd74
Is it Snopes who states it's falsified?

You allowed for the possibility. "Kev - as they say, it's the mere thought that counts, whether the images are real or not" and I really am not convinced the images are authentic.

[M.D. Holloway]

Originally posted by osidak
...Is the hang up because dogs are pets..... As I said before I don't like them. I tend to prefer cats but it doesn't bother me to know people eat them in other parts of the world.

How about cows - Hell they are sacred in India and we slaughter them left and right. Steak yummy. Who the hell cares about India and their weird customs......

Dogs got personality...Cats got personality...don't want to eat anything with personality.

[Superman]

I don't agree with you guys. On the skin strength thing. Nobody likes dogs more than I do and I'd be happy to put one of those hooks through the scrotum of one of these shark hunters.

But yes, I think that double-hook method would indeed be strong enough. Humans sometimes suspend themselves by threading straps through their skin. Skin is tougher than you think.

[M.D. Holloway]

Supe, hang'n from a hook is one thing, being trolled through water at 15+ knots is another story. Spent plenty of time out on the race on Long Island Sound as a boy. Fishing for tuna and sword fish but mostly getting Blue Fish. One thing was always certain, best to plant your hook into some cartledge or it was gonna be worthless after two minutes.

Hook'n a jowl of the pooch wouldn't even last the time it took to throw it in the water.

[M.D. Holloway]

man we debate some *****'d up *****...

[KevinP73]

Originally posted by LubeMaster77
man we debate some *****'d up *****...

true but what else am I supposed to be doing while I'm at work?

[M.D. Holloway]

this is better than closing the door, opening the window and putting birdseed on the keyboard for the pigeons to peck away at - sometimes I think thats what TABS does, but he taught the darn things to hit reply!

[dd74]

Originally posted by KevinP73
You allowed for the possibility. "Kev - as they say, it's the mere thought that counts, whether the images are real or not" and I really am not convinced the images are authentic.

Well, okay. So everyone's disgust at that image can also be inauthentic?

[dd74]

Originally posted by Superman
But yes, I think that double-hook method would indeed be strong enough. Humans sometimes suspend themselves by threading straps through their skin. Skin is tougher than you think.

I once heard the Nazis made lampshades out of human skin?

[KevinP73]

Originally posted by dd74
Well, okay. So everyone's disgust at that image can also be inauthentic?

Ones reaction to the image may be authentic, but that doesn't make the image authentic.