Who will the tickets be in 2008??

[Nathans_Dad]

Ok, time to start talking about the next election!! This is the official Carnac prediction thread for the 2008 tickets for both parties (or 3rd parties if you want to throw those in). Get your predictions in now!!

My Prediction:

Republicans: John McCain- President, Condolezza Rice-VP
Democrats: Hilary Clinton-President, John Edwards-VP

I think that would be a really close race, but I think McCain/Rice would win out in the end by 2-3%

Anybody else have thoughts?

[aways]

I know McCain is a cult-figure to many, but I don't think the repub base will go along. I agree though, it'd be a strong ticket.

My dream Democratic ticket would be Dean/Gore.... could you imagine that!!! Bring the earplugs!

[slakjaw]

I think there will be a 2 party ticket in 08` Not sure who it will be though.

[slakjaw]

I think there will be a 2 party ticket in 08` Not sure who it will be though.

[aap1966]

Originally posted by Nathans_Dad

My Prediction:

Republicans: John McCain- President, Condolezza Rice-VP
Democrats: Hilary Clinton-President, John Edwards-VP

I'll go along with that.

[HardDrive]

I don't think republicans will ever nominate McCain.

Its a shame because the guy would win by a landslide.

[Joeaksa]

Problem is that McCain is is a RINO and does not have a large support base in the conservative camp.

Would love to see Powell run but his wife is keeping him from it, probably rightly so. He would be excellent IMHO but he deserves to enjoy his retirement.

How about Newt Gingrich or Fred Thompson? Either would be excellent...

JoeA

[Nathans_Dad]

I would love to see Powell run too, but he won't for two reasons:

1) His family life and he has repeatedly said he doesn't want to give that up for the job.
2) The very real possibilty that the first black president in this country would be assassinated. Sad, but true.

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Originally posted by Nathans_Dad
I would love to see Powell run too, but he won't for two reasons:

1) His family life and he has repeatedly said he doesn't want to give that up for the job.
2) The very real possibilty that the first black president in this country would be assassinated. Sad, but true.

The only reason that I wouldn't mind seeing Powell run, is that it would keep the Democratic party from claiming a victory... But, Powell is no conservative. Can anyone name a conservative position Powell holds?

He's

1) pro affirmative action
2) pro abortion
3) anti Iraq war, even was anti Gulf war in 91.
4) weak on border issues (as is Bush, for that matter).

In short, McCain is less of a RINO than Powell.

[techweenie]

McCain has played his cards right with the RNC powers that be, but they can't support his campaign reform positions, and cannot nominate him.

Rice is a go along/get along kinda subordinate who has demonstrated no independent thought. Plus there is a segment of the population that isn't ready (may never be) for a Black woman president or vice president.

I don't see anyone in the current national Republican scene who looks likely, though.

Recently, in national politics, the lack of a historical record has been an asset, so we can expect someone to advance from relative obscurity.

Similarly, if the Dems have a national strategy, other than letting the Republicans self-destruct, they aren't showing it.

Maybe 30% of the population is negative on Hillary, though most can't really articulate why. John Edwards has been out of the spotlight for too long, and didn't make a huge impression in the first place.

I think the ultimate candidate from the Democratic side will be more of a DINO -- someone more toward Mark Warner's end of the spectrum.

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Originally posted by techweenie
McCain has played his cards right with the RNC powers that be, but they can't support his campaign reform positions, and cannot nominate him.

Rice is a go along/get along kinda subordinate who has demonstrated no independent thought. Plus there is a segment of the population that isn't ready (may never be) for a Black woman president or vice president.

I don't see anyone in the current national Republican scene who looks likely, though.

Recently, in national politics, the lack of a historical record has been an asset, so we can expect someone to advance from relative obscurity.

Similarly, if the Dems have a national strategy, other than letting the Republicans self-destruct, they aren't showing it.

Maybe 30% of the population is negative on Hillary, though most can't really articulate why. John Edwards has been out of the spotlight for too long, and didn't make a huge impression in the first place.

I think the ultimate candidate from the Democratic side will be more of a DINO -- someone more toward Mark Warner's end of the spectrum.

1) McCain has played his cards right with the RNC?
My god man, what are you smoking? Are you an insider at the RNC, and know something that no one else does?

2) Rice has no independent thought?
How would you know? As national security advisor, and now as SOS, she's not in a position to publickly oppose administration policies. And how would you know if she does so in private?

3) Yea, the segment of the population you're talking about are democrats who fear a black female republican because she threatens the iron-grip the Democrats want to have on the throats of black Americans. If the Dems ever lose their 90% stranglehold on the black vote, they're in BIG trouble, and they know it. That's why they play the race card at every opportunity.

4) More like 45% of the public is against Hillary, according to the polls I've seen. She has the highest negatives of just about any politician.

[fintstone]

I expect the dem ticket to be some version of Clinton/Lieberman. they have positioned themselves very well for our winning the war and bringing peace and democracy to the middle east. The Republicans may well run ????/Rice. Gingrich is indeed a possibility as is Lindsey Graham or Jeb Bush. There are a couple of other strong Governors that can come on strong as we near the election.

[techweenie]

Originally posted by aways
1) McCain has played his cards right with the RNC?
My god man, what are you smoking? Are you an insider at the RNC, and know something that no one else does?

2) Rice has no independent thought?
How would you know? As national security advisor, and now as SOS, she's not in a position to publickly oppose administration policies. And how would you know if she does so in private?

3) Yea, the segment of the population you're talking about are democrats who fear a black female republican because she threatens the iron-grip the Democrats want to have on the throats of black Americans. If the Dems ever lose their 90% stranglehold on the black vote, they're in BIG trouble, and they know it. That's why they play the race card at every opportunity.

4) More like 45% of the public is against Hillary, according to the polls I've seen. She has the highest negatives of just about any politician.

Your 'side' sure talks about drugs alot. Are you projecting? I don't smoke...anything.

1. McCain campaigned in favor of the Bush/Cheney ticket. Did you miss that?

2. What relevance is independent thought if nobody knows about it? Wow. Maybe the dumbest comment, ever. We're talking politics here, not the psychic friends network.

3. Too loony for serious comment.

4. Show me the survey.

[HardDrive]

I think Jeb would have a tough go of it. To much ammo from florida. Shame because I think he is more qualified that his brother.

[techweenie]

Originally posted by HardDrive
I think Jeb would have a tough go of it. To much ammo from florida. Shame because I think he is more qualified that his brother.

No question he's more qualified, but there's that little problem of the $400,000,000 he cost the U.S. taxpayers.

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Originally posted by fintstone
I expect the dem ticket to be some version of Clinton/Lieberman. they have positioned themselves very well for our winning the war and bringing peace and democracy to the middle east. The Republicans may well run ????/Rice. Gingrich is indeed a possibility as is Lindsey Graham or Jeb Bush. There are a couple of other strong Governors that can come on strong as we near the election.

Gingrich would be great, but unfortunately the Dems did a good job turing him into "satan incarnate" in the 90's. Negatives too high...

As for Lieberman... The left wing of the Democratic party has just about decided to throw him out of the party. Lieberman is NOT popular with the Michael Moore/Howard Dean/Nancy Pelosi wing that has taken control. It might be a smart move, however, for Hillary to pick him as VP to pick up swing voters, but it will piss off the leftists and may hurt Dem turnout in the general election. That's the risk.

[Moses]

Originally posted by aways
Hillary... has the highest negatives of just about any politician.

She's a chameleon. She'll reinvent herself on Oprah and walk away looking positively... gracious.

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Originally posted by techweenie

Show me the survey.

From a communist web-site I'm sure you trust...

Poll: Edwards has fewest 'haters'; Gore, Kerry, Hillary most
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/11/22/44619/874

[HardDrive]

Originally posted by aways
Gingrich would be great, but unfortunately the Dems did a good job turing him into "satan incarnate" in the 90's. Negatives too high...

Well, the guy did serve his wife with divorce papers in her hospital bed as she lay dying from cancer. He ain't exactly and angel.....

[Tobra]

If "Wild Man" Dean is the best they can do, they are in sad shape. He won't run, that was the deal with him being DHC chair, but we shall see.

If the Dems had their shat together, they would run Lieberman, he has broad appeal. Edwards is a nice haircut and an expensive suit. Gore, well I don't see how someone that stiff could be room-mates with Tommy Lee Jones. They will run Hillary/Lieberman if they are smart, which I often question.

On the other side, McCain can't get nominated, which is too bad, as he has broad appeal and probably is electable. Jeb Bush has no chance, Americans don't want a royal family, and he has a lot of baggage. Condi Rice is smart, female and black, but Americans are not ready for too much of that, perhaps the VP slot. Don't know who they will run at the top, is the governor of Mississippi GOP? he impressed me greatly over the last few months

Edit, Gingrich offered my dad a job on his staff a long time ago, when he first went to DC. Dad turned it down for the sake of the family.