Huge weapons cache found

[tabs]

And don't tell me he sold those coins and ring on E-bay

[Shaun @ Tru6]

Originally posted by tabs
And don't tell me he sold those coins and ring on E-bay

Bidding is still open:

Fint's ring

[Rodeo]

Awwww ... link doesn't work. Was hoping for a skull and cross bones ...

[Nathans_Dad]

Let me be clear here:

Shaun: It's not Clintonesque, my statement says what it says. You inferred that I said those weapons were buried there for 3 years when I said no such thing. The article states that some of the weapons looked to be freshly wrapped in plastic, that implies recent burial. What about all the other weapons in not-so-fresh plastic? When were they buried? 6 months? A year? Two? I don't know and neither do you. Bottom line is our troops still didn't find them until they got a tip.

Rodeo: I am not saying that I think WMD are buried in Iraq. Just saying your crusade against Joe like he is a raving lunatic for suggesting there might be things buried in Iraq that we haven't found is very naiive and shows you have no clue of what things are really like in the sandbox.

[kach22i]

Our man in the field Ryan Lenz of The Associated Press, prior earth shattering jounalism dealt with this:

Stove Top Stuffing Creator Dies
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/11/23/business/main1073442.shtml

I'm just looking for this guys credentials - follow the money.

Paying his dues.............................................I guess.

Wet shorts, white flag
http://outdoors.mainetoday.com/news/040926100mile.shtml
By RYAN LENZ, Associated Press

Unable to sleep and lying next to fellow outdoorsmen, my thoughts focused more on sheets of rain than Thoreau's noble "tonic of wilderness." But it was hard to think at all. My mental wanderings were cut short in revolt.

The stench of unshaven, unclean, unkempt hikers was incredible.

He does have a colorful writting style, grows on you.

Embedded With the 101st Airborne
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051221/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_blog_embed_iq99

AP writer Ryan Lenz is embedded with the 3rd Brigade of the U.S. Army's 101st Airborne Division in Iraq and will be filing periodic reports on life in that unit.....................TUESDAY, Dec. 20, 9:30 p.m. local

ZUWAD KHALAF, Iraq — The voices came from the other side of a sand dune or over the radio, carrying an air of untouched desert in all directions.

"Found another one," someone with a metal detector would yell as he swept the desert floor for buried explosives.

Soldiers pile into Humvees or run to help. After another five minutes, a yell would come and they would run again, burning with curiosity.

Missiles, rockets, mortars and mines, all wrapped in plastic and buried with care — mountains of them near a half-demolished brick building on an open desert plain in northern Iraq.

It was a rare moment. One in which soldiers let their guard down and enjoyed an accomplishment. They laughed and swore as they formed daisy chains of arms and hands to move the weapons from the ground into trucks to take them to be destroyed.

They sang lewd boot camp marches as they filled one truck, and still munitions appeared in sandy holes that looked like graves when emptied.

These soldiers knew the weapons they had found could just have easily been found by someone else, whoever it is making the bombs they find on the roadsides: Homegrown insurgents, foreign fighters, whoever.

But today the weapons were in American hands. They knew it and laughed loudly as cars slowed to watch on a highway in the distance. ....................I finally arrived with the soldiers from the 101st around midnight a day ago. More than a hundred hours in transit had left me exhausted when the Chinook finally landed, dropping a dozen or more soldiers out.

I fell asleep on a cot again, this time in a motor pool, choking on the smell of grease and diesel fuel.

[Rodeo]

LOL!

Keep digging. I'm sure you will find numerous stories by Mr. Lenz on what's now known as JoeA's Hideaway

[kach22i]

Originally posted by Rodeo
LOL!

Keep digging. I'm sure you will find numerous stories by Mr. Lenz on what's now known as JoeA's Hideaway

Our famed reporter of Stove Top Stuffing and Hiking may not know his weapons systems or be an expert on Missiles, rockets, mortars and mines . We should show some caution, not trying to discredit the guy.

My perspective on this is he/she got the crap assignment in an unpopular war and is making the best of it. Risking life and limb so I can sit in my office sipping coffee and chat with you guys in the O.T. section of Pelican Parts about the events over there.

This reporters story is getting picked up everywhere as it is an AP article. That does not mean any main stream story is valid or accurate - just that it gets repeated alot.

The jury is still out on this one, waiting for more information.

[Joeaksa]

Originally posted by Shaun 84 Targa
Bidding is still open:

Fint's ring

Shaun, shaun... do we conservatives have to do everything for you?

Go to Ebay, type in item 5068660861 and you will find the $25 dollar fake diamond ring that G9 feels is so important.

JoeA

[1967 R50/2]

While this is good news, a couple of thousand pieces of ordinance does not seem to be that much compared to some of the depots they found immediately after the war. Nor does it seem to be out of the ordinary for the caches that routinely turn up in Afghanistan.

The real news in this story is the locals co-operating with our boys.

[techweenie]

Originally posted by 1967 R50/2
While this is good news, a couple of thousand pieces of ordinance does not seem to be that much compared to some of the depots they found immediately after the war. Nor does it seem to be out of the ordinary for the caches that routinely turn up in Afghanistan.

The real news in this story is the locals co-operating with our boys.

Yes, your last line is the true good news.

Saddam's inability to produce the makings of the Bush Administration's threatened "mushroom cloud" or "deadly chemical attack" will forever be their albatross.

Moronic Monday morning quarterbacking aside, nothing was holding back Saddam from defending his own life with WMDs.

It doesn't take much thought to realize that the same excuses put up for Saddam not using WMDs to defend his capital would be even stronger excuses for not using them in any other context against the US, ergo no threat.

The argument that he 'had them but chose not to use them' is ludicrous and argues against all of the reasons given for the invasion. Not to mention that the Bush administration has repudiated the WMD claims (as well as the al Quaeda link claims). Some neocons hereabouts remind me of that lonely Japanese soldier found 20 years after WWII.

[Rodeo]

How about fint's argument, though. No one has addressed that one:

"He had 'em, but he couldn't find 'em"

You know. Cause they're really, really small

[Rodeo]

Originally posted by techweenie
Some neocons hereabouts remind me of that lonely Japanese soldier found 20 years after WWII.

Dude, where you been? Joe has already taken me to task for this!

Originally posted by Rodeo
Give it up already. You remind me of one of those Japanese soldiers still fighting WWII 5 years after it ended. There are no WMDs.

If you are going to make analogies, you have to get the time frame correct!

Originally posted by Joeaksa
5 years later? You need to go back to your History class. There was a Japanese soldier found in the PI two years ago, That makes it almost 60 years after the VJ day.

Once you learn a bit about history, THEN you can quote it. Until then pls do not act like you know it.

You had the right idea, but the wrong number of years. Disqualified.

[Joeaksa]

Rodeo,

They are down there, in the ground, right next to where your head is!

[Joeaksa]

Originally posted by Rodeo
You had the right idea, but the wrong number of years. Disqualified.

Please show me the error of my post. Doubt that you can. 1945 to 2003 is "about 60 years."

[techweenie]

Originally posted by Rodeo
Dude, where you been? Joe has already taken me to task for this!

Dude, the new neocon playbook is to accuse everyone else of what they are doing!

[Rodeo]

Joe, Joe, Joe. There were some Japnese soldiers that came out after 3 months, some after 3 years, and yes one guy that held out 60 years.

But, um ... you see Joe, the number of years is not really relevant to the point that was being made.

Except if you are trying to tell us that we have to search the Iraqi sand for 60 years before you will admit what even the president finally has

[techweenie]

Originally posted by Rodeo
Joe, Joe, Joe. There were some Japnese soldiers that came out after 3 months, some after 3 years, and yes one guy that held out 60 years.

29 years, actually.

http://history1900s.about.com/library/weekly/aa120700a.htm

[Rodeo]

Originally posted by techweenie
29 years, actually.

http://history1900s.about.com/library/weekly/aa120700a.htm

What a sad, touching story. And more than a few parallels to the heads in the sand crowd here.

Leaflet after leaflet was dropped. Newspapers were left. Photographs and letters from relatives were dropped. Friends and relatives spoke out over loudspeakers. There was always something suspicious, so they never believed that the war had really ended.

[Burnin' oil]

Originally posted by FrayAdjacent911
Damn, I thought someone had looked in my closet.

I thought someone had looked in my pants!

[1967 R50/2]

Originally posted by techweenie
29 years, actually.

http://history1900s.about.com/library/weekly/aa120700a.htm

No, actually Joeska's "60 years" is correct:

http://www.smh.com.au/news/World/Hidden-soliders-emerge-after-60-years/2005/05/27/1117129897877.html?oneclick=true

Of course, there may be other hold outs, but these two guys were well into their 80's...so if there are other hold outs, they may not be around much longer.