Bomb em into submission

[lendaddy]

We're not trying to exterminate them you leftists boobs. If that was our goal we would still be dropping bombs. Our goal is to eliminate the ignorance that creates these animals via spreading Capitalism and Democracy. I fear your myopic view can't see that far down the road though. Or maybe you don't think their hatred is born of ignorance? That IS a popular leftist view as well.

Our guys are largely NOT on the attack, they are simply protecting the infant society. Can you grasp that?

[fastpat]

Originally posted by Rodeo
Know your enemy.

That sage wisdom has never been truer than today, with this new kind of "war." One without battlefields, soldiers, central command. A war where there can be no victory or defeat. We will know it's over after a decade or so of peaceful coexistence with the Muslim world.

There's no need to hold hands. But it imperative that we know our enemy. It's the first step to winning this and any other war.

I don't expect peaceful coexistence with muslim fundamentalists, in the sense America has with Canada, but I do expect no terrorist attacks on American soil when we demand and secure no US government meddling, of any kind, in the middle east.

Right now, G. W. Bush is not only tolerating a muslim takeover and genocide in southeastern europe, he's facilitating it. You, we, everyone, needs to ask why that is, and why this militant conquest does not merit, if not overt US government action, at least a cessation of US government assistence to those staging it.

[Shaun @ Tru6]

Originally posted by Rick Lee
Shaun, do you suggest negotiations? Why do so many handwringing liberals fail to understand that a good portion of the world understands nothing but force and believes restraint and weakness to be mortal sins?

Make a deal with the devil and you're the junior partner.

Rick, my position has always been Good Energy Policy is Good Foreign Policy.

[Mulhollanddose]

Originally posted by livi
End result of dropping one nuke:

Reduction: 9900 innocent + 100 terrorists

Production: 1000 freshly motivated terrorists

Total: 900 more terrorists... (and one nuke less)

livi...all due respect...that is one of the biggest lies out there.

Do yourself a favor and do not trust 90% of the propaganda that comes out of American media or Al Jazeera, or like minded left leaning world press.

[Rodeo]

Originally posted by lendaddy
We're not trying to exterminate them you leftists boobs. *** Can you grasp that?

Apparently the "leftist boob" that started this thread cannot grasp today's "rightist" wisdom.

Originally posted by snowman
I suggest that we drop one nuke on the middle east city of your choice *** Based on the rabid Jap response to our bombing of Hershoma we should end this terror war after only two bombs.

If that dosen't end the war, then a few more bombs will, ie no one left to fight.

So do you, or do you not, want to kill them all, so there is "no one left to fight?"

Or are you in the camp that believes merely threatening suicide bombers with death will make them tow the line?

Whatever you do, don't talk to them! Don't dare try to understand why they are going to their deaths to kill us, or why their numbers keep growing. Don't try to understand. It wouldn't be manly.

[lendaddy]

Originally posted by Rodeo
Apparently the "leftist boob" that started this thread cannot grasp today's "rightist" wisdom.



So do you, or do you not, want to kill them all, so there is "no one left to fight?"

Or are you in the camp that believes merely threatening suicide bombers with death will make them tow the line?

Whatever you do, don't talk to them! Don't dare try to understand why they are going to their deaths to kill us, or why their numbers keep growing. Don't try to understand. It wouldn't be manly.

If our current plan fails and they reject democracy and capitalism then we'll worry about that. I believe what we are doing will work and education will prevail.

I will add that a good portion of those I've met that have spent time in the ME say "turn it into glass" but I'm a glass is half full kinda guy

[coloradoporsche]

"Ragheads"?
"Japs"?
Equating an entire race to a bunch of insects?

Another really inspiring OT thread. You should all be very proud of yourselves.

[livi]

Mul,

How do you figure? Enlighten me.

[Rodeo]

Originally posted by lendaddy
***I will add that a good portion of those I've met that have spent time in the ME say "turn it into glass" but I'm a glass is half full kinda guy

And a genuine humanitarian. The vigor with which you have condemned the proposed slaughter of a billion or so Muslims is truly admirable

[Shaun @ Tru6]

The Right has become what it hates.

[lendaddy]

Originally posted by Shaun 84 Targa
The Right has become what it hates.

Undercooked poultry?

[thrown_hammer]

Originally posted by Shaun 84 Targa
The Right has become what it hates.

Killer Bees?

[Rodeo]

Originally posted by Shaun 84 Targa
The Right has become what it hates.

[Shaun @ Tru6]

Originally posted by lendaddy
Undercooked poultry?

I coached Brandeis Crew (rowing) for years. Each year we would go down to South Carolina for early spring break and get some time on the water. One year we stopped at a roadside chicken shack and orderd 30 whole BBQ chickens. As we were devouring them, the meat got redder and redder, bloodier and darn near a chainsaw massacre as we got down to the core.

[widebody911]

Originally posted by Rick Lee
Shaun, do you suggest negotiations?

Who said anything about negotiations? Who do all of the genocidal mouth-breathing christian jihadists always accuse anyone who disagrees with them as being a terrorist sympathiser or wanting to negotiate?

If flipping on the kitchen light resulted in getting a nasty electrical shock, the liberal would turn off the power and check the wiring and try to figure out why he got shocked; the conservative would give Halliburton a no-bid contract to burn down the house as a warning to the light switches in the other houses in the neighborhood.

[kach22i]

Originally posted by Shaun 84 Targa
Rick, my position has always been Good Energy Policy is Good Foreign Policy.

Then you might want to read this one By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN.

January 20, 2006
Op-Ed Columnist
The New 'Sputnik' Challenges: They All Run on Oil
By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN
Detroit

I came to Detroit looking for the hottest new American cars. Instead, I found Sputnik.

You remember Sputnik - the little satellite the Soviets launched in 1957. The Eisenhower administration was so stunned it put the U.S. into a crash program to train more scientists and engineers so America could catch up with the Russians in the space race.

Well, for anyone paying attention, our generation's Sputnik showed up at the annual Detroit auto show this week. It's not a satellite. It's a car. It's called the Geely 7151 CK sedan. It seats a family of five, gets good mileage and will cost around $10,000 when it goes on sale in 2008.

It's made in China.

That doesn't get your attention? Well, there's another Sputnik that just went up: Iran. It's going to make a nuclear bomb, no matter what the U.N. or U.S. says, because at $60-a-barrel oil, Tehran's mullahs are rich enough to buy off or tell off the rest of the world. That doesn't worry you? Well, there's a quieter Sputnik orbiting Earth. It's called climate change - a k a Katrina and melting glaciers.

What am I saying here? I am saying that our era doesn't have a single Sputnik to grab our attention and crystallize the threat to our security and way of life in one little steel ball - the way our parents' era did. But that doesn't mean such threats don't exist. They do, and they have a single common denominator: the way we use and consume energy today, particularly oil.

Friends, we are in the midst of an energy crisis - but this is not your grandfather's energy crisis. No, this is something so much bigger, for four reasons.

First, we are in a war against a radical, violent stream of Islam that is fueled and funded by our own energy purchases. We are financing both sides in the war on terrorism: the U.S. Army with our tax dollars, and Islamist charities, madrasas and terrorist organizations through our oil purchases.

Second, the world has gotten flat, and three billion new players from India, China and the former Soviet Union just walked onto the field with their version of the American dream: a house, a car, a toaster and a refrigerator. If we don't quickly move to renewable alternatives to fossil fuels, we will warm up, smoke up and choke up this planet far faster than at any time in the history of the world. Katrina will look like a day at the beach.

Third, because of the above, green energy-saving technologies and designs - for cars, planes, homes, appliances or office buildings - will be one of the biggest industries of the 21st century. Tell your kids. China is already rushing down this path because it can't breathe and can't grow if it doesn't reduce its energy consumption. Will we dominate the green industry, or will we all be driving cars from China, Japan and Europe?

Finally, if we continue to depend on oil, we are going to undermine the whole democratic trend that was unleashed by the fall of the Berlin Wall. Because oil will remain at $60 a barrel and will fuel the worst regimes in the world - like Iran - to do the worst things for the world. Indeed, this $60-a-barrel boom in the hands of criminal regimes, and just plain criminals, will, if sustained, pose a bigger threat to democracies than communism or Islamism. It will be a black tide that turns back the democratic wave everywhere, including in Iraq.

The one thing we can do now to cope with all four of these trends is to create a tax that fixes the pump price at $3.50 to $4 a gallon - no matter where the OPEC price goes. Because if consumers know that the price of oil is never coming down, they will change their behavior. And when consumers change their behavior in a big way, G.M., Ford and DaimlerChrysler will change their cars in a big way, and it is cars and trucks that consume a vast majority of the world's oil.

The more Detroit goes green, the faster it will be propelled down the innovation curve, making it more likely that Detroit - and not Toyota or Honda or the Chinese - will dominate the green technologies of the 21st century. A permanent gasoline tax will also make solar, wind and biofuels so competitive with oil that it will drive their innovations as well.

George Bush may think he is preserving the American way of life by rejecting a gasoline tax. But if he does not act now - starting with his State of the Union speech - he will be seen as the man who presided over the decline of our way of life. He will be the American president who ignored the Sputniks of our day.

[Shaun @ Tru6]

Originally posted by widebody911
Who said anything about negotiations? Who do all of the genocidal mouth-breathing christian jihadists always accuse anyone who disagrees with them as being a terrorist sympathiser or wanting to negotiate?

Because it's all they have. No new ideas, no strategy, just stay the course with what isn't working with the hope of a miracle while disparaging outside critical thought.

You've got to admit, it's done well for them.

[fastpat]

Originally posted by Rodeo
Know your enemy.

That sage wisdom has never been truer than today, with this new kind of "war." One without battlefields, soldiers, central command. A war where there can be no victory or defeat. We will know it's over after a decade or so of peaceful coexistence with the Muslim world.

There's no need to hold hands. But it imperative that we know our enemy. It's the first step to winning this and any other war.

I don't expect peaceful coexistence with muslim fundamentalists, in the sense America has with Canada, but I do expect no terrorist attacks on American soil when we demand and secure no US government meddling, of any kind, in the middle east.

Right now, G. W. Bush is not only tolerating a muslim takeover and genocide in southeastern europe, he's facilitating it. You, we, everyone, needs to ask why that is, and why this militant conquest does not merit, if not overt US government action, at least a cessation of US government assistence to those staging it.

[techweenie]

Originally posted by widebody911
If flipping on the kitchen light resulted in getting a nasty electrical shock, the liberal would turn off the power and check the wiring and try to figure out why he got shocked; the conservative would give Halliburton a no-bid contract to burn down the house as a warning to the light switches in the other houses in the neighborhood.

LOL. Good analogy.

[Shaun @ Tru6]

Originally posted by kach22i
Then you might want to read this one By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN.

Most of this is the basis for a thread I want to start: How George Bush will bankrupt the U.S. All of the integrated data points are there, but it will take me prolly 2 hours to create a cohesive, formal thesis.

Linking the Geely which will put U.S. Automakers out of business with China with borrowing from China to pay for Iraq which will yield absolutely no ROI because China (and India) will use up oil at such an alarming rate that it will be gone in 30 years. So we are in debt to Chinese Communists, our bankers, the same guys who have squelched democracy and free thought, we are buying their super cheap goods which has killed our manufacturing base but fueled their economy, resulting in a weakened political position for the U.S. in the world all while our children have to pay off this debt, but they won't have an economy based on anything other than ideas, ones that the Chinese freely steal, the same guys who have met with and made raw materials and arms deals with every country in the western hemisphere as well as oil deals with the ME and so on and so on.

That's about 1/5th of it. The bankrupting of America by George Bush, the man who subjugated our country under China's Communist government so he would have the money to attack Iraq, instead of investing it in U.S. infrastructure to strengthen our children's futures in the areas of:
Education
Energy Independence
Ultra-high speed national data architecture (Asia's is 60 times faster than ours now for the same cost) and since Information flow is power...

I really wish I had the time to put it all together. But essentially gentleman, Iraq is the pebble that Geoge Bush set into motion down the mountain that will become a boulder and crush America some 10 to 20 years down the hill.