No, I was on my motorcycle attempting to merge to the left to enter the 118 freeway...I was trying not to get run over.

I beat that ticket...The cop threw every charge he could imagine at me, and that was after me being a nice guy. I vowed to quit being so nice in the future.

I asked the officer, the one that motivated this thread, in the proceedings if I was displaying any erratic behavior or dangerous maneuvering...He said, although his memory was suspect, I did not.

Uh. no. It still is childish even if it is his right to do it.


By his action he is wasting our collective money.

I never once claimed that he shouldn't be allowed to go to court. Why are you putting a position onto me that I don't hold?

I just think it's pretty stupid on his part...he broke the law, he admits it..... To me, it's shirking personal responsibility, as I have previously stated.

But were you speeding then also?

Only in the liberal mind does money raped from the taxpayer become "collective money."...Collectivist money perhaps.

Mul, I always make it a point to ask the cop in front of the judge if he/she would agree that I was polite, calm and cooperative during the stop. This can really help.

Thats a good and valid reason to fight all tickets, all the time. Again your desire to spend money dosen't obligate me to do anything.

Yep, you're right. It is all about showing them commies that you won't stand for them taking your money from you in the form of taxation.

There goes the money for the new library down the hole for the traffic court.

Sorry, snowman, I forgot you want everyone to pay for the library only if they use it. And if I provide it out of my largess, you will use it without a thought to help.

Glad you can sleep at night.

Cry and beg for mercy? :)

Funny, I have been stopped three times in the last year for speeding. No tickets. When I get a speeding ticket (I'm certain I will), I'll pay it. Not because I feel it's my duty to take my lawful punishment, but because court is a costly hassle for me.

I got a ticket in Santa Barbara last year. Requested a trial by mail. I began my plea; " The ticketing officer was polite and respectful at all times..." I guess the judge liked that. Not guilty.

Have I told you how much I love driving in the commuter lane by myself during rush hour? Makes my commute a breeze! When I get caught (which I expect will happen someday) I will pay a $281 fine. I figure I 've already saved about 100 hour of gridlock commute so far, so if I get caught tomorrow, that works out to about $2.81/ hour. Definitely a good value...

What happened to liberals fight for free choice?...Why is it they are the biggest proponents of ill conceived law making and poorly planned speed limit laws that serve no other purpose but to impede the flow of traffic and increase government revenues?

It is okay to murder your unborn child, but it is outrageous and flagrant crime to drive your car at or above the flow of traffic.

Thank a liberal for 91 octane and inflated gasoline prices because of ridiculous formulation requirements and high taxation.

And that, my friend, is personal responsibility. It's not like you don't know you're breaking the law and are forced to....

You know the law, you can't get a drivers license without demonstrating you know the law (test), there's no excuse to you break it. Don't like the law (like in rodeo's case) then work to get it changed.....

Moses, be careful about the second or third time. I hear the fine doubles and triples.

Don't like the speed limit, work to change it. You signed up to abide by them when you got your license. Don't like that idea. Build your own road.

I seriously doubt that Mul was responsible for allocating the money to be used to convict him, but I could be wrong. If the courts were not meant to be used, there would have been no need to spend tax payer dollars to use them. If the courts are meant to be used, what is wrong with him using them? The prosecutor made the decision to proceed with the case, was he within his right do so absolutely, as was Mul to do the same. There is a reason we have traffic court, and it is not strictly for the innocent.

I would like you to consider this point very carefully before you respond, If prosecuting the case was a waste of money, why did the prosecutor choose to proceed with the trial?

My answer would be that the prosecutor weighed the pros and cons of proceeding/dropping and deciding that prosecuting was not a waste of resources. Why? I do not know, but my guess would be because it may send a message to him or other speeders, however the point is moot. Clearly the prosecutor decided that the pros of prosecuting outweighed dropping the charges, therefore the prosecution was not a waste of money. If you still believe so, that is an issue you should take up with the D.A.

I never said that you"claimed that he shouldn't be allowed to go to court." Please read my posts carefully before you accuse me of putting words in your mouth. If you can find such a quote please point it out to me and I will correct this. It sounds like you are the one putting words in my mouth.

Please build your own road and then you can drive as slow as you want to there. The rest of the motorists will be VERY happy with your decision! :)

Joe A

I do not mean to offend you, I'm sorry.

Well then, what was the point of your last post directed at me?

The process was a waste of money. Nul initiated the action to waste the money. The judge doesn't really decide to hear Nul's particular case, Nul did.

Ah, but you see Joe. I am very happy to abide by the rules of the road agreement when I got my license. It is for those that don't want to abide to find their own road.

Yes and someday people will punt you off of the road because you are blocking traffic! :)