A Conscience is a terrible thing - what would you do?
 

It's an old story...

Assume that you're a middle-aged guy (and if you're reading this you probably are) and you've become "close" to a very attractive twenty-something female co-worker. You have no business relationship, you both just happen to work for the same company.

The plot thickens...

- you are in a defined relationship that you have no intention of "disturbing" and your co-worker understands this.

- this particular co-worker is of a physical type for which you have a particular penchant. (you really, really want to jump her bones).

other stuff thickens...

- the co-worker claims to have pursued meaningful relationships with men her own age and has given up on her generation. (maybe she has a father fixation or is a gold digger - who cares?)

- she seems very mature (maybe she's an "old soul", conflicting her with her own generation)

- the co-worker wants you to jump her bones.

now it gets really, really thick...

- the co-worker is quite religious - catholic, or baptist say. She recognizes the gravity of her proposition in that context.

- the co-worker is a virgin and has been "saving herself for marriage" up to this point, but has become so disenchanted with her prospects (the eligible men of her generation) that she has come to view her "virtuous state" to be an increasingly back-handed liability as she ages.

- the co-worker has asked that you relieve her of the burden of her virginity so that she can get on with her life and thereby invest less consequence in the men of her own generation that she may chose to get involved with in future.

Fascinating situation...



What would you do?

RUN do not walk away from what will surly be a BIG problem. You wouldn't be asking if you didn't already know the answer but wanted to hear something different.

Purely hypothetical, or somebody you, ahem, know?;) Transfer, get the hell away from her. Men are weak, and why torture yourself. Relieve yourself of the temptation while you still can.

give her a blumpkin!

is the guy in the scenario married or just dating? is the female in the plot HOT?

forget it, go with the blumpkin! then prepare the alibi and lies.

Hypothetically? I'd hit it like there was no tomorrow.

realistically, I'd not hit it, and I'd be tortured wondering how much fun I had missed. But it would provide gobs of fantasy food for a while to come... (no pun intended, but it's a good one anyway)

Get rid of the and I'd do her.

Run far away, you will hate yourself now but later understand.

I have a young lady chasing me (why I do not know) who is 28 years old. I am 50'ish and have told her several times to find someone her own age. She says the same thing as your lady friend, that the younger guys are nurds and that she likes older guys who do not play games. We have fun together but its a bit of a generation gap. We are having a wonderful time both in and out of bed but I still have this problem going out with someone who I am old enough to be her Father...

Lucky for me I keep finding overseas work and keep hoping that she finds someone else while I am away. I want a partner in life and not a young kid to keep an eye on so its not going to work for me.

Wake up and smell the roses. It might be fun for a while but find someone closer to your age you can grow old with IMHO.

JoeA

Virgin. Yeah.

Well, "That's what guys like to hear."

Go for broke: tell the person with whom "you" are involved that you want a threesome with this other, "Catholic" "Virgin".

Who knows? :D

JP

Slacker?????

Have you no conscience showing up here after so long??????

Torture... are you insane?

The story describes the most blissful possible situation for an old "hound dog".

Knowing that you could... the exquisite pleasure of knowing that you could reach out and pluck that if you wanted to. This is one of those rare, rare cases with women where the possibilities are actually more exquisite than the reality ever could be...

ah, getting older and having lots of notches on the belt is a wonderful thing.

Now, if she wasn't a virgin - well then all bets would be completely off, of course. Even hound dogs have to have some kind of moral compass. Besides, virgins are just way to much work - in more ways than one.

I'd give her a Cleveland Steamer.

Seriously, banging a girl you have to work with can get very complicated to say the least.

Pics or ban!

Just my $.02
I have been married for 20 years, we dated for 2 before that, needless to say we have been togeather for a while now. I passed on a few chances to "hit it" and while the wonder is there, I can't express how greatfull I am to have passed.
Forget about the complications at work.
Forget about the track covering.
Your hypothetical person has to look in the mirror every day, and may not like the face looking back.
JP is on the right track 3way. That way it is all with permition, no guilt, and a lifelong memory!

Geez.

Relieving my burden by relieving her burden.

Sounds like a marriage made in anybody's heaven.

If I weren't in a relationship... I'd bang it like a screen door in a hurricane...


but if I were in a relationship, I'd have to decline the opportunity to pluck her virginity. I'd bet she'd get clingy and want more, and really, really, mess things up if you didn't oblige her.

Don't dip your pen in the company inkwell.

Interesting. I've been noticing lately that there are a fair number of younger ladies who recognize the imprtant features present in older fellows and absent in younger ones, nearly without exception. Frankly, I can see where they are coming from.

This situation presents nothing but danger. There is "trouble" written all over it. These two women will chew you up and spit you out. You'll look like coarsely ground roadkill, if things work out ideally. If not, you'll be in even worse shape. My advice is like those above. Run screaming away.

On the other hand, this is precisely the kind of advice I regularly ignore. A comfortable life with low risk and rock-solid stability seems to be at the bottom of my priority list. I'd find a private location with sound-proof walls and attempt to show her ALL she has been missing. And then I'd schedule the next session.

Can you say Fatal attraction?????Some of these young girls tend to go overboard and become unstable.

She'll begin calling you all the time, sending you embaressing notes, stopping by unannounced, claiming she's in LOVE, throwing tantrums, crying if you want to break it off one day, that love will turn to hate and vengefullness, crying rape or pregnant etc, etc, etc...

AND she's not mature enough to keep your discretion..in other words, she'll tell it.

Find a hottie around 35ish and move on.....

don't fish off the company pier..

I think this is one reason why I stick around on OT. Everyone here can beat up on each other all day long regarding politics, yet most of us have a conscience and decent morals.

Oh, and I need a pic of the girl before I can give an educated response. :D

again, i am trying not to let my jealousy taint my response, but hit it hard.

religious hot virgin? i heard about her! according to the recent brotherhood thread, we aint gonna tell.

pics or ban!

You can claim you were at my place the whole time. ;)

Is a one night stand worth the risk of losing what (the person in question) already has?

If it is, why is (the person in question) in that aforementioned relationship to begin with?

Old saying: Don't $hit where you eat. (tell her to quit :D)

I know you're thinking about doing it AREN'T YOU..AREN'T YOU???????

Don't Dooooo it.....

I've had so many friends that fell into that situation and I've gotta tell ya'...I can't help laughing my A$$ off listening to the ***** that they've gotten themselves into.

I try, I really, really try to keep a straight face because the friend is truely serious and worried but I can't help it.

Ever have a friend run into your office and hide under the desk because their FLING is storming through the office looking for them??

Or, they have to ask the switchboard to screen incoming calls only to have the switchboard refuse and they come to you to for help in pulling rank over facilities?????

At quitting time, 6 or 7ish have your friend waiting for you at the door so you can walk out first to make sure it's safe for them to leave????

I know it's not the mark of a true friend but I laugh all the way home....

BIG NO !

Problem is not necessarily what you do, but what they can claim you have done.

I kind of fell into a verbal / mail relation with a woman at work a few years ago. Very innocent and emotionally neutral from my standpoint. After a few months she wants more. I realize whats happening. Panic. Stop all communication (not easy on the same job). Start to relax a bit after a few weeks - thinking its over.

One night my spouse gets a telephone call..

I spent over a year paying for that, repeatedly trying to explain and deny (truthfully). All but destroyed our relationship.

DON´T ! You can (maybe) control yourself. But you can´t control her.

Never screw the crew!

A good friend recently succumed to a very similar situation.

His life has been shattered.

Now divorced, living in an apartment away from his kids. He would do anything today to be able to roll back the clock and have a second chance.

It's hard to see a good friend go through what he has gone through. My wife gets an extra hug tonight.

Disregard anything Chris says cause he knows Esther will read what he posts. And anyway Esther is hot!:D

Amen to that. I have seen Esther. Chris is one lucky guy.

A virgin? Who needs that headache. Way too much energy involved. Way too much. Can you even imagine the tedious phone calls after. Awful. Run away.

Don't fish off the company pier.

Bang away like a fly screen door in a hurricane!

The male in me says "go for it"

Clearly, she trusts you enough\cares about you enough\thinks that highly of you enough to want to (pardon the vulgarity) "give it up" for you. She is an adult, this isn't some teenage spur of the moment ideal

This is significant - if you do, she will remember you and the event for the rest of her life....

The married guy in me says "you are in a relationship, don't screw that up"

sitting here for the better part of 10 minutes pondering an answer, if you aren't serious about forming a relationship with this woman, or at least offering the potential for a relationship with this woman, I wouldn't do it - that is too much of a gift to squander away on a one night stand like that.

//old fashoned I guess

AFJ

I don't think I could stand the post-coital phone calls.

I'm 50 ish(ahem) and single again. I've gotten involved with the younger ladies more than once. Its very flattering and the sex is OMG I'm gonna lose my farkin' mind! Tho' none have claimed to be virgins ALL have turned out to be nuts to a certain degree. And rather needy.

If you value the relationship you're in RUN. Not for any touchy feely , new age, 80s guy kinda sheet, but for your own sake.

If the current relationship isn't gettin' it for you , turn her loose and fool around with the young one.

But if you do turn the young one loose PM me. I am experienced in these matters.:D

Some of these comments are just plain funny! Good stuff!

Anyway, seriously, RUN from this situation.

I've watched a good friend/co-worker "fish off the company pier" many times over the past 7 years and he gets his life trashed every time. The women use him emotionally and then flush him like a used tampon. However, I'm surprised he hasn't been slapped with a sexual harrassment lawsuit yet. He's back at it now nailin' a 14 year younger co-worker who's only been at our company for a few months and I don't trust her motives... Here we go again. It's the same story over and over.

Another very good friend that I've known for over 20 years is a CEO. He got hit with with a sexual harrassment suit from a woman at his company that he barely even knew (she did it just to get cash) and never even so much as glanced at her, much less harrassed her. It's an expensive lawsuit that the courts take very seriously. Think about what the attorney fees are before 'going fishin' off the co. pier'.

Get the Hell out of Dodge on this one. RUN.

Jay
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I have a buddy that was a bartender, he hooked up with nearly every waitress at his restraunt. Work became, uh, awkward, especially after his older manager became obsessed with him. Not really what you want to see when you open your blinds, your manager standing at the window. Also gets tough when none of your female co-workers will talk to you. Now he's married to probably the most conservative girl that I have ever met, and happy as can be.

Larry Kroger ("Pinto") from "Animal House":

Larry's evil conscience: Fuch her. Fuch her brains out. Suck her tits, squeeze her buns. You know she wants it.
Larry's good conscience: For shame! Lawrence, I'm surprised at you!
Larry's evil conscience: Aw, don't listen to that jack-off. Look at those gazongas. You'll never get a better chance.
Larry's good conscience: If you lay one finger on that poor sweet helpless girl, you'll despise yourself forever. ...I'm proud of you, Lawrence.
Larry's evil conscience: You homo.

Point her toward this discussion maybe?