i need a polite exit strategy for religious visitors

[svandamme]

Originally posted by trekkor


You'll alway feel better if you are a pleasant and peaceful man.

see, that's not a proven fact.

the reality is , i can either be annoyed and stressed by the doorwhores, or i can have a laugh...

laughing , is benificial for my health... good for the cardio vascular system... fact

and also , laughing is a precursor for not beeing depressed... another fact.


it's quite simple
if they do not bug me
then i will not bug them

which also means :

if they are polite to me
i will be polite to them


no need to be Vulcan to figure out the logic in that.

[trekkor]

"Live long and prosper"


KT

[bigchillcar]

i was standing there with a piss boner, buck ace naked and invited them in.

still love this tactic..
ryan

[Por_sha911]

I wonder if any of you "its my right to be mean because you bug me" people ever had to ask for help from a stranger (directions, jump start a car when you were 16...)
Many of these folks (no, not all) care about other people enough to endure inconvenience and ridicule. Even if they are misguided at least they are trying to help others. Wow what a selfish bunch of "doorwhores"!
How hard is it to be nice and give them a polite "I'm not interested but thanks anyway". If that doesn't work then at least you can say that they had fair warning.

[svandamme]

that's different, since it's a valid reason
folks can knock on my door if they need a hand with something, no problem, if i see a stranded car in the middle of nowhere , i'll stop to check if they need assistance, i'll get up for old ladies on the metro, etc etc

the point is that religious doorwhores go knock on doors just because they think or feel they better then non believers, and think it's their duty to go out and convert...

i'de like to see them try doorwhoring in Saudi Arabia, Iran, Pakistan...
that should be interesting... you think they'll receive a friendly welcome? i think not.

[Por_sha911]

Actually, they do go "doorwhoring" (so to speak) in foreign countries. Its called being a Missionary and some of them end up in jail or dead for their beliefs. They go into those countries knowing the risks but do it for what they feel helps others. What cruel and heartless people, huh?
Are there some that do it for the trip of feeling holier than thou? Prob. But you can't know that just by the way they ring the doorbell. Sounds like we're the ones being judgemental.
BTW: I am not JW or Mormon. It just seems that when someone mentions God, there is a lot of anger that comes out. Why do you think that is? Don't give me the "I had a bad experience..." story. I've had bad experiences with lots of folks but I don't just haul off and condemn everyone because of it. No, there is a special rage that comes out when God or Jesus are mentioned.
Jesus Loves You. Jesus Loves You. Jesus Loves You. See, you're getting mad at me now.

[svandamme]

i know about the missionaries, and i never said they were cruel or heartless. i'm just saying they are a pain in the ass, and are treated as such when they think it's necessary to try and convert me..

people are so quick to shout freedom of religion
but fail to understand that also means freedom to not belief

i don't believe, and every dingbat that thinks he can "convert" me , basically offends my non belief... maybe i should burn a few embassy's to proove my point.

[svandamme]

here's an idea , how about i go to the Temple in Salt Lake City , barge in there , and try and convince everybody who's there for service, that God does not exist?
how about i setup shop , outside the temple, on the pavement,with a bunch of others like me , big signs and shouting , "there is no god , there is no god, set yourself free" whenever there is something going on in the Mormon temple??

you think i could get away with that in SLC?
wouldn't that be rude on my behalf, or would that too be acceptable... it's acceptable if they do it , so surely i can return the favour?

[Victor]

I have said this to my own brother:

"Jesus loves you, but everyone else thinks you're and arsehole".

Nothing against the Lord, just can't stand the bro.

[Por_sha911]

Originally posted by svandamme
here's an idea , how about i go to the Temple in Salt Lake City , barge in there , and try and convince everybody who's there for service, that God does not exist?
how about i setup shop , outside the temple, on the pavement,with a bunch of others like me , big signs and shouting , "there is no god , there is no god, set yourself free" whenever there is something going on in the Mormon temple??

Maybe you should. I can't speak for them but you might be surprised to see them welcome you in for some honest dialog (as long as you don't show up naked, with a gun, or holding back a large angry dog...)
My church (not any of the above mentioned) had a card-carrying atheist come for about a year. He wanted to know what all the fuss was about. We treated him with respect. We had some interesting discussions at different times and eventually we parted ways with neither party changed nor angry.
Again, my point is that there is a highly noticeable anger that shows up when Christians talk about Jesus, salvation, etc....

[svandamme]

ehm , last time i checked, the SLC temple is quite closed off for heathens.

[SLO-BOB]

Originally posted by sammyg2
You could be a complete a$$ as many of the previous posters recommend, or you could try the truth.

Thank you!

I'm giving some of the above posters the benefit of the doubt and guessing most of these stories are bull*****. How is that benefit of the doubt? I believe you guys surely have better sense than to act like a bunch of savages in front of someone who is genuinely there to help. If you don't want that help, just say so. If you tell them not to come back, they won't.

[trekkor]

how about i go to the Temple

Here's the BIG difference.

Barging in, throwing a fit or threatening others, last time I checked, is illegal, trespassing, disturbing the peace will get you put in jail.

Now, going door to door with your beleifs in a polite, reasonable fashion with the purpose of helping others learn about a variety of subjects in a peaceful manner to people who resent you for being there...

I just don't see you doing that for more than a door or two.

Public speaking is the #1 fear of humanity, BTW.


KT

[Eric 951]

That is why I prefer the silent stare. It is not rude, nor is it welcoming--it is neutral.

[dhoward]

Originally posted by trekkor
Here's the BIG difference.

Barging in, throwing a fit or threatening others, last time I checked, is illegal, trespassing, disturbing the peace will get you put in jail.

Now, going door to door with your beleifs in a polite, reasonable fashion with the purpose of helping others learn about a variety of subjects in a peaceful manner to people who resent you for being there...

I just don't see you doing that for more than a door or two.

Public speaking is the #1 fear of humanity, BTW.


KT

I'm sure you like conversing with telemarketers too. After all, they're only there to help...


edit:
Nice tile, by the way!

[Laneco]

I would personally really hesititate to do this, but my mom did figure out a way to keep all the JW' from their house.

They live in a rural area with a very low traffic road in front of the house. The JW's would come every week and just NOT get the hint to leave (my father is very polite - too polite). My parents took to shutting the gates. They would open the gates (always a No-No in a rural area - dogs/livestock). Then my parents would lock the gate. They actually CLIMBED OVER!!

One day Dad was a full day late coming home (over the road truck driver). Just mom was home. Dad called mom stating he had the truck parked and was driving home (in the car). Mom decided to surprise Dad...

When she heard him step up the porch (what she THOUGHT was him), she hurled the door open exposing her completely naked self... The JW's sat there slack jawed for a few seconds, then left, climbed over the fence and NEVER returned.

It's been 15 years. They are still on the JW "do not go to that house" list....

angela

[Don Ro]

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Your mom 'n dad have a great (hot) relationship!

[nixter]

Growing up I used to enjoy the visits to our door from the JW's. My step father who is a spiritual man but otherwise an atheist, was raised in a british Catholic school and has an intimate knowledge of the bible. He'd argue scripture to the JW's until they could no longer rebut. Funny watching a JW come up with an excuse to leave your doorstep!

Nix

[Jims5543]

The reason JW's knock on your door is because it is required of them. They must participate in spreading the word of god in order to maintain a good standing withing their congregation. It is a lot like the young Morman men except there is no end to your duty.

Their duty is to not convert you its to mearly let youknow there is another option as far as worship goes. The right and wrong religion thing is simply not true. Their objective is to simply spread the word of god. There is a passage in the bible that states that the word of god needs to be spread throughout the entire inhabited earth before god will step in and let his will be done on earth as in heaven. (Think lords prayer here)

I grew up a JW and have always found these type of threads fascinating. I have Jw's and Mormons knock on my door along with kids selling things and salesmen trying to give me an awesome deal on some steaks. I have never felt the need to abuse them. Same goes for telephone solicitors. It takes me 0.2 seconds to loose them and about 10 seconds to send someone from my front door.

If you are truly not interested, tell them. If they keep coming back, point out you were not interested the last 10x they were there and that they are wearing your patience thin. Ask them to stop bothering you. They should leave you alone after that.


BTW- Some of the stories are not BS, growing up I have been attacked by dogs and had guns shot at me in rural areas. While some of you think this is funny it was a pretty scary thing for a kid to go through.

My grandfather used to wear a cross, Italian horn, and Jewish Star all on the same chain. I asked him once why and he replied that he was not sure which one was right and wanted to make sure he had his basis covered.

Some of you guys better hope the JW's and/or Mormans are wrong.

[trekkor]

I don't talk to telemarketers for long.

I politely tell them that I'm on the national "do not call" list and would prefer not to do business over the phone.

It take less than ten seconds.


This thread makes me smile


KT

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