V for Vendetta

[EdT82SC]

I don't understand equating U.S. politics of today with a comic book story written in the eighties. The story was a commentary on where the writer thought British socienty could possibly end up some day. We've seen many stories cover those themes before. I'm sure almost all of you read 1984 in high school. It's a fantasy story. It's not reality. And Natilie Portman had about as much to do with the story as I did. Zilch. She was about 5 when it was written. This is the same writer who wrote From Hell and the League of Extrodinary Gentlemen. Two more fantasy stories.

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Originally posted by EdT82SC
I don't understand equating U.S. politics of today with a comic book story written in the eighties. The story was a commentary on where the writer thought British socienty could possibly end up some day. We've seen many stories cover those themes before. I'm sure almost all of you read 1984 in high school. It's a fantasy story. It's not reality. And Natilie Portman had about as much to do with the story as I did. Zilch. She was about 5 when it was written. This is the same writer who wrote From Hell and the League of Extrodinary Gentlemen. Two more fantasy stories.

The story, much like 1984, has never been more appropriate than it is today.

[Jim Richards]

a classic

[FrayAdjacent911]

It's absolutely relevant because some ultra theistic dictatorial government is in power RIGHT NOW AS WE SPEAK! We have curfews, we can't say certain things (or much at all), we can't critisize the government or officials, the police are everwhere, people disappear in the night and are never heard from again.

Yeah. We have it bad right now.

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Originally posted by FrayAdjacent911
It's absolutely relevant because some ultra theistic dictatorial government is in power RIGHT NOW AS WE SPEAK! We have curfews, we can't say certain things (or much at all), we can't critisize the government or officials, the police are everwhere, people disappear in the night and are never heard from again.

Yeah. We have it bad right now.

All of those things are happening in America today, and have been for years.

[DaveE]

The way you descibe the story I can understand why those of a certain ilk might not want to see it and denigrate the actors in it. It would be mighty uncomfortable to deal with the desire for freedom and democracy and reconcile that with blind support for your leader. You have to be in denial to make it work.

[TheMentat]

Originally posted by speeder
Let's see, a quick mouse click to IMDB reveals that:

She has been working non-stop as an actor since age 12 including multiple theatre festivals and starring roles on Broadway + 22 films and still managed to get accepted to Harvard University, where she graduated in 2003 w/ a degree in psychology, (takes discipline to study that hard in a trailer between shots, she must be brilliant), plans on ditching her acting career and 8-figure annual income to become a doctor.

And you, assclown?

pffft... whatever! she's just some know-it-all that's trying to cram unwanted thought provocation down my throat!

[84porsche]

I personally liked the movie. The sequences were good and in the end good conquering evil is a great thing. Plus the whole knives thing was quite sweet. To me, a movie is just a movie. I can't wait to see what you guys say about Superman.

[FrayAdjacent911]

Originally posted by DaveE
The way you descibe the story I can understand why those of a certain ilk might not want to see it and denigrate the actors in it. It would be mighty uncomfortable to deal with the desire for freedom and democracy and reconcile that with blind support for your leader. You have to be in denial to make it work.

And I think some people of a certain ilk like to think that others of another ilk 'blindly support their leader'. Sorry man, ain't true. I just picked the lesser of two evils. ALL politicians are scum in my book. A neccessary evil... and our government HAS gotten to a point that it needs some SERIOUS housecleaning.

But being a dictatorship where citizens fear the government? I don't think were there yet. Gestapo tactics where dissodents disappear in the night and are never seen again? I don't see that happening. Rampant censorship? Nope. Curfews? Nope. Concentration or 'reeducation' camps? Nope.

I think some people need to adjust their tinfoil hats a little.

As for actors, I think they're almost as bad as politicians. Too many think because they're famous, that they SHOULD go spouting their opinions in public forums, and that the unwashed masses should accept their BS. They support some causes that many people see as Unamerican, then we can 'vote with our wallets'. Not likely to make a dent in their portfolios, but we can do it.

I may still go see V. I will take it as PURE ENTERTAINMENT and ignore any parallels that can be drawn with what people think about our government today.

What I do and would find entertaining about Miss Portman is that in this film, she portrays a revolutionary fighting against an oppressive government.... yet she is a strong supporter of gun control. She probably hasn't made the connection yet that disarming the populace of a country paves the way for oppressive governments.

If y'all are really afraid of an oppressive government, buy a gun. Buy several. Oppose all efforts to disarm you. Hopefully we won't need to use them in our lifetimes... or our children or grandchildren's... but who knows what the world will be like in a couple hundred years? If we sell out our rights now, our decendants might pay the price.

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Originally posted by 84porsche
I personally liked the movie. The sequences were good and in the end good conquering evil is a great thing. Plus the whole knives thing was quite sweet. To me, a movie is just a movie. I can't wait to see what you guys say about Superman.

I loved his final battle with the SWAT-type team: "You've got guns - or more rightly - bullets, and when you run out, I'm going to use my knives to kill every single one of you before you can reload."