Confirmed: V Plame was working on Iran nukes when outed

techweenie · techweenie's Garage

And exposing her (and every other CIA agent using the same company as cover) cost us valuable intel about Iran.

Maybe having less -- rather than more -- information on Iran's nuclear progress was useful for the administration.

http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/MSNBC_confirms_Raw_Story_report_Outed_0501.html

lendaddy · 05-02-2006, 02:54 PM

Oh please.

techweenie · techweenie's Garage

Another compelling and well-documented argument from lendaddy.

Some things are so predictable.

john70t · 05-02-2006, 04:09 PM

I don't think the conditioned public would blink an eye at anything else the admin did.

lendaddy · 05-02-2006, 04:12 PM

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Originally posted by techweenie
Another compelling and well-documented argument from lendaddy.

Some things are so predictable.

Like death and taxes

But seriously, the BS meter on that article is off the charts. It mentions her previous status in the agency as if it were her status when outted for one thing.

Mulhollanddose · 05-02-2006, 04:22 PM

Valerie Plame was actively working, perpetuating a lie, in order to damage a sitting President during wartime. This is treason. If this was WWII she and her husband would be getting the Rosenberg treatment, deservedly so.

Jim Richards · 05-02-2006, 05:35 PM

Dose, I hardly expect our friends in the CIA will support your attitude when their lives are jeapordized for political puposes.

All the neo-cons that whine about supporting the troops are quiet as crickets when it comes to these brave "soldiers."

techweenie · techweenie's Garage

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Originally posted by lendaddy
Like death and taxes

But seriously, the BS meter on that article is off the charts. It mentions her previous status in the agency as if it were her status when outted for one thing.

I'm not sure we are going to know her actual status when outed until transcripts of the upcoming cases Fitzgerald is filing are released, and even then, you can expect the key parts to be redacted.

So you choose to think of Plame as insignificant at the time of her outing and I do not. Fine. We can't independently confirm either view. Are you concerned about anyone else who was using Brewster Jennings as a cover?

Jim Richards · 05-02-2006, 05:50 PM

neo-con hypocrites would've screamed treason if Clinton outed an agent. I still only hear crickets.

lendaddy · 05-02-2006, 05:50 PM

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Originally posted by techweenie
Are you concerned about anyone else who was using Brewster Jennings as a cover?

That's actually a good point and yes I am concerned. I have not however seen evidence that the loss (assuming it was a current asset) cost the agency anthing. Even if it was and did, it appears the outting of Plame was anything more than a mistake/misunderstanding.

I think if revenge were the motive a million more effective approaches immediately come to mind.

lendaddy · 05-02-2006, 05:55 PM

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neo-con hypocrites would've screamed treason if Clinton outed an agent. I still only hear crickets.

First of all Bush didn't out anyone, but yes if Clinton had outted an agent I would indeed assume the worst of him as he had proven himself to be a shameless liar and opportunist concerned only with himself.

Bush has shown me nothing but a steady and honest approach to his governing. Granted I disagree with him often, but the man is honest.

techweenie · techweenie's Garage

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Bush has shown me nothing but a steady and honest approach to his governing. Granted I disagree with him often, but the man is honest.

From the time of the first campaign, when a tech analysis revealed Bush told 54 lies in one debate until now, I have not heard any indication of honesty, and certainly the results of his presidency bear that out.

lendaddy · 05-02-2006, 06:15 PM

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Originally posted by techweenie
From the time of the first campaign, when a tech analysis revealed Bush told 54 lies in one debate

Yes, and clinton killed Vince Foster

You really believe these things?

nostatic · nostatic's Garage

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Originally posted by lendaddy

Bush has shown me nothing but a steady and honest approach to his governing. Granted I disagree with him often, but the man is honest.

Impossible. No politician that rises to the national level can be honest. They are all POSs with an agenda designed to pay back whoever helped them get there.

techweenie · techweenie's Garage

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Originally posted by lendaddy
Yes, and clinton killed Vince Foster

You really believe these things?

Actually, the company was a client of mine, and it's a voice stress analysis program widely used in industry, so yes, I do believe that Bush lied in the debates.

Mulhollanddose · 05-02-2006, 07:30 PM

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Originally posted by Jim Richards
neo-con hypocrites would've screamed treason if Clinton outed an agent. I still only hear crickets.

900 illegally obtained FBI files Clinton?...please...The Clinton Administration presided over the greatest theft of military and weapon secrets in American history, not to mention selling what was left for campaign cash.

Mulhollanddose · 05-02-2006, 07:34 PM

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Originally posted by lendaddy
Yes, and clinton killed Vince Foster

Why would a President do the killing? that is what minions and hired hit men are for.

Hillary: "Guido, I am really afraid Vince Foster is going to be a problem if he is investigated...I sometimes wish he didn't even exist."

Guido nods knowingly and exits.

RoninLB · 05-02-2006, 07:58 PM

Special Prosecutor Fitz should be be informed about all this.

Mulhollanddose · 05-02-2006, 08:24 PM

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Special Prosecutor Fitz should be be informed about all this.

Was one of those illegally obtained FBI files, Fitz's?...Pretty sure they had Starr's and the Republicans that made sure impeachment was DOA in the Senate.

RoninLB · 05-02-2006, 08:54 PM

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Originally posted by Mulhollanddose
Was one of those illegally obtained FBI files, Fitz's?...

don't know