B25 - will this buff out? - Page 2

dafischer · 05-22-2006, 06:14 PM

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Originally posted by charleskieffner
son your education in aviation leaves alot to be desired! once again its evident from your statements..................(blather deleted) ..............i'd keep my mouth shut!

Say what?

Jeff Higgins · 05-22-2006, 06:37 PM

I didn't realize B-25's had a Targa option, Thom. Probably makes this one exceptionally valuable. You should probably finish the Ghia first, though.

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Originally posted by charleskieffner
son your education in aviation leaves alot to be desired! once again its evident from your statements..................(insert non-sensical rant with poor punctuation and grammar)..............i'd keep my mouth shut!

Not you again...

bell · bell's Garage

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Originally posted by charleskieffner
son your education in aviation leaves alot to be desired! once again its evident from your statements..................that aviation is probably not real conducive, to you living a long full life! this is shown by your web site that a bunch of us have viewed and your fine ability in being a so-called mechanic. our suggestion is to avoid aviation, but if your so inclined, please dont "build an experimental" as you have some of your rides. and if you do pass all your pilot prerequisites and actually get to "solo", please dont fly around our airport. i would hate to be first on scene again, for a dual fatality attributed to "pilot error"! please refrain from ever comparing our actions on 9/11 to the terrorists actions. you crossed the line there! as far as "wild eyed civilians" with "soldier of fortune guns"? well both the airport mgr. and myself have CCW permits(concealed carry weapons permits). i will forward you the latest homeland security memo we received as far as general civilian aviation and airports. if you think for one pico-second that there was a govt. conspiracy re: 9/11 well maybe this memo will allow you to see clear. like i had mentioned before we take security very very seriously now. your statements pissed off a lot of people here, not just myself. you because of your age have never been affected by terrorists actions. i have twice now! once in munich in 1972(standing right there in olympic villiage) and now on 9/11. i would highly suggest that if you pursue a pilots lic. you not be a wise ass as you have on this forum re: 9/11. verbal jokes are NOT taken as jokes. be it commercial airports or private. will forward memo tonight, maybe it will open your eyes to the job some of us have! if i were you the next time you went to an airport..............i'd keep my mouth shut!

i just went back and read that dribble.......
who peed in your cheerios?
did you post this incoherent paragraph in the wrong thread?
and why are you so mad?

roger roger what's our vector victor..........

charleskieffner · 05-23-2006, 03:50 AM

for wide body and his conspiracy buffs. heres some food for thought next time you want to wise off to someone that had to deal with 9/11 in our face and still has to deal with it everyday and night we are on airport property. since you are so far removed from the aviation world this should open your eyes to what just a small jet served private airport gets to deal with on a daily basis. the reason we are in the middle(to explain again) is the 9/11 pilots again literally trained over our heads and to the east of us, using close proximity airports to the direct south and sw of us. telling people we are equal to the terrorists on 9/11 for our efforts then and today and in the future, just didnt sit well with us at all.maybe when you get your pilots lic. youll be able to fathom how much civilian aviation was changed on 9/11 let alone commercial aviation forever! once again, widebody your cracks regarding our experience on 9/11 didnt sit well AT ALL with us, let alone your idiotic conspiracy crap that it didnt happen. alot of people died on 9/11 and are still dying today and in the future, protecting your right to free speech. your attitude that we are a bunch of hillbillys with guns, jes didnt go down our craw like you thought it wood![img] since your pea brain cant fathom that fact WE ARE AT WAR on 3 fronts,IRAQ-AFGHAN-and here on our HOMELAND dealing with an enemy that does have finances,is educated, has sophisticated weapons and technology and the will and drive,desire and effort to kill himself just to kill others, is something that we have to deal with everyday. should their be another attack or attacks youll get to watch the economy plummet, and a host of other things occur that you attribute to a conspiracy. so when you want to wise off to people, that have loved ones in the service, be it army/navy/airforce/marines/coast guard, and us weapons qualified(M1-A, M-1 SOCOM,M-1carbine,STEYR-AUG,HK-91-93-94,M-16,Mini-14,M40-A1,FN-FAL,various semi-auto pistols) hillbillys, thank them for each day you get to go outside and hack on your p-car with a torch and hacksaw!http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads7/airport+security1148382544.jpg[/img]

Hawktel · 05-23-2006, 05:51 AM

Saving and repairing old planes is nifty. If I had the skills to help, I would.

Brian 162 · 05-23-2006, 05:41 PM

I helped dismantle an old Lancaster bomber that was sitting on a pedistal by Lake Ontario in 99. When you climb inside these things it is so surreal. You can't imagine what these guys went through and I will forever be grateful.

Joeaksa · 05-23-2006, 09:56 PM

This old gal will be restored and hopefully will fly again. What is missing or damaged will be handmade by someone and eventually it will fly again. Just not enough of the old WW2 birds around so they are getting very expensive.

One problem is that in many cases when someone finds an old WW2 bird, the govt tries to step in and reclaim it. The US Navy is the worst. If someone finds a plane that went in the water and raises it to the surface then starts to restore it, they step in and say that they never signed the paperwork over to it and they want it back.

Recently at least one person took them to court and won the case, so saving some of these old birds may start happening again.

Jeff Higgins · 05-24-2006, 08:08 AM

The Navy did that to a bunch of guys that rescued an F4U Corsair from the bottom of Lake Washington. It went in on take-off during a training flight from Sand Point. It was actually quite well preserved, since it was so deep in fresh water. The Navy stood by all the while they put together their financing and operation to raise the airplane and never said a word. Once they had it out of the water, the Navy said "thank you very much; that's our airplane" and simple took it. It now sits fully restored in the Museum of Flight in Seattle. I'm not sure these guys ever got a dime reimbursed for their efforts. Pretty airplane, though.