"The last days are apon us". Lol.

It's good old fashioned fear mongering: Widely adopted and most effective method to keep the peasants under control.

3 For YOU know this first, that in the last days there will come ridiculers with their ridicule, proceeding according to their own desires 4_and saying: “Where is this promised presence of his? Why, from the day our forefathers fell asleep [in death], all things are continuing exactly as from creation’s beginning.”

2 Peter 3:3,4


Nope, it's in every bible. THE most published book in human history. *absolute* fact. :)


KT

I don't see mention of 2006 there. Must be the translation...

And I didn't know you were a vodka fan

http://www.vinospritbolaget.com/images/absolut.jpg

I posted the scriptural references in my opening posts many days ago ;)


KT

36 “Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father. 37 For just as the days of Noah were, so the presence of the Son of man will be. 38 For as they were in those days before the flood, eating and drinking, men marrying and women being given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark; 39 and they took no note until the flood came and swept them all away, so the presence of the Son of man will be. - Matthew 24:36-39


43_“But know one thing, that if the householder had known in what watch the thief was coming, he would have kept awake and not allowed his house to be broken into. 44_On this account YOU too prove yourselves ready, because at an hour that YOU do not think to be it, the Son of man is coming.- Matthew 24:43,44


KT

true. Didn't see 2006 mentioned there either. But you'll believe what you want. As I've stated before, faith doesn't jibe with logic. And that's...ok.

Logic tells us that a correct conclusion can be deduced only from a correct premise. If one starts off with a faulty premise, it is unlikely that one will reach a sound conclusion. The repeated failure of the “scientific” investigators to come up with a reasonable explanation casts serious doubts on the premise upon which they based their views. By following their preconceived notion, in their efforts to ‘explain religion away’ they have attempted to explain God away.

KT

Talking about the Bible is a matter of mind and heart. You must have not only the right attitude but also something worth while to say. That requires the giving of thought to three basic elements. These are the Scriptures, facts, and logic.


KT

Two prominent British scientists, Sir Fred Hoyle and Chandra Wickramasinghe, admittedly were ‘driven by logic’ to conclude that there must be a Creator. “It is quite a shock,” said Wickramasinghe, a professor of applied mathematics and astronomy. The Sri Lankan-born astronomer explained: “From my earliest training as a scientist I was very strongly brainwashed to believe that science cannot be consistent with any kind of deliberate creation. That notion has had to be very painfully shed. I am quite uncomfortable in the situation, the state of mind I now find myself in. But there is no logical way out of it.”

Though Wickramasinghe and Hoyle continue to believe that evolution controls the development of life forms, their calculations of the odds against life itself starting spontaneously moved the professors to write: “Once we see . . . that the probability of life, originating at random is so utterly minuscule as to make it absurd, it becomes sensible to think that the favourable properties of physics on which life depends are in every respect ‘deliberate,’ ” or created.

Professor Wickramasinghe also said: “I now find myself driven to this position by logic. There is no other way in which we can understand the precise ordering of the chemicals of life except to invoke the creations on a cosmic scale. . . . We were hoping as scientists that there would be a way round our conclusion, but there isn’t.”


KT

wanna make a bet on that?

What is logic? For our purpose we might say that logic is the science of correct thinking or sound reasoning. It imparts understanding because it is the means by which a subject is explained in its connected parts.

Logic shows why they act and belong together. The development is coherent if its reasoning follows a gradual growth in such a way that all parts are united in sequence. A logical development may be in order of importance, in chronological order or one going from problem to solution, to mention a few possibilities


KT

Stijn, you wouldn't be betting with me...And we're talking about your life.


KT

trekker you should have a look at this guy here :

http://www.savelivesinmay.com


it's terribly funny , he came with some wild predictions that there was goign to be a comet in the atlantic, and that would cause undersea vulcanoes to erupt and cause massive tsunami's all around the atlantic

then it kind of was a non event

and he posted a statement saying that the us did something and that averted the doom...

you gotta hand it to the fruitcakes,... they are not predictable either
and slightly entertaining in a non hot stripper doing a lap dance kind of way...eg , very slightly, nothing to wild

perhaps i'm so convinced that you are a misguided fool, that i'm hoping you'll take the sucker bet and i'll get all your money when it turns out to be savelivesinmay.com-style?

if you're right, then my life is a goaner anyway , so i've got nothing to loose, i can only win by betting

misguided fool?

That's not very nice, Stijn.

I thought we were friends.


KT

I know. I never gave date.

Wars, earthquakes, pestilences, food shortages and a global preaching work would all be seen together in one generation to a level never seen before.

WWI, WWII, Korean, Vietnam, Gulf and many others.
This generation has seen huge earthquakes very often.
Spanish flu, cancer, AIDS...Bird flu looming.
In Africa stavation is well known.

A worldwide bible education work has been underway since the late 1800's.
In 235 lands and nearly all languages to the total of over 1 billion hours a year per year preaching.

Just part of "the sign" that would be visible in the "last days".

There's more.


KT

Hoyle's "logic" has been pretty much disputed. Wickramasinghe's expertise is in evolutionary biology? No? It's mathematics and astronomy... Hmmm...

A quote regarding Hoyle:

"Fred Hoyle is often quoted as comparing the probability of the origin of life to the probability of a tornado building a plane in a junkyard. Hoyle's opinion was based on several mistakes and misconceptions about both evolution and abiogenesis. These errors are detailed in the Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and Probability of Abiogenesis Calculations and the Evolution and Chance FAQs. Hoyle was not only a layman and not an "authority" on the subject, but much more importantly he was wrong and no amount of quoting his opinion on the matter will make him right."

From this page:

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/quotes/

Trekkor - unless you can provide some sort of testable prediction, your "end days" statements are worthless. People have been predicting these "end of times" scenarios for, what, centuries?

Mike

Well, luckily a "day" according to God can be thousands of years (per a reasonable interpretation on Genesis). So I agree totally with you...we are in "the last days."

This the *only* generation when man has had the ability to destroy life on the planet.


21_for then there will be great tribulation such as has not occurred since the world’s beginning until now, no, nor will occur again. 22_In fact, unless those days were cut short, no flesh would be saved; but on account of the chosen ones those days will be cut short.- Matthew 24:21,22


KT