Sig DAK trigger?

nostatic · nostatic's Garage

Has anyone shot the DAK trigger? I went to the range yesterday and noticed (again) that I'm much better DA than SA. Seems like a DAK might be a good fit for me. I was thinking a p220 DAK...single stack .45.

HardDrive · 07-02-2006, 09:09 PM

Hmmmmmm.....long ago, I shot a 226 DAK. I can't see how anyone can be better with DAK, but ok. I have a 226R in .40. The first pull is DA if its been decocked. Its long, but smooth and predictable.

The 220 is a great gun. Very accurate. I love the Sigs because they are so easy to break down and clean.

craigster59 · craigster59's Garage

I have the P229 SAS in .40/357sig and I really like the DAK trigger. It has 2 different pressures, I think 10lbs for the first half pull and 6lbs for the remaining. You can squeeze off some quick shots.

Drago · Drago's Garage

What does a DAK trigger get you?

craigster59 · craigster59's Garage

Actually, I called it backwards. The DAK trigger system allows you 6.5lbs for the full pull or you can reset it to half pull for a shorter, stronger 8.5lbs resistance.

nostatic · nostatic's Garage

basically DAK is a DAO system, with a lighter than regular DAO pull. If you want to try and catch the short reset you can get a harder short pull.

A lot of LE is requiring "single pull" systems, so DAK was Sigs answer to that challenge. I find that for whatever reason I'm more accurate with a longer pull, so I figured I'd try the DAK as I like Sigs...

Jeff Higgins · 07-03-2006, 05:44 PM

DAO systems on autos seem to be getting more and more popular, that's for sure. They do fill a need for people that have minimal training, or time to get training and practice. It is a simple system to use at defensive ranges, under a great deal of stress, so therefore may have a place on that type of firearm. As ranges extend and the need for greater precision starts to outweigh the need for speed, they rapidly get very frustrating to use. They are simply incapable of the accuracy available from a good, crisp, single action pull. I could only see having such a system on a dedicated pocket gun or something, as a last resort kind of thing.

Law enforcement's adoption of this system should not be taken as any kind of an endorsement. Too often us civilians are impressed by what the "pro's" use, without fully understanding the reasons for their choices. Too often, the actual guys and gals that will have to carry the damn thing have no say in its selection; it is very often simply an expedient choice driven by considerations outside of its actual utility.

Often the choice is driven by public perception. For example, carrying a 1911 in "condition one" (round chambered, hammer back, thumb safety engaged) is the accepted method. Imagine seeing a cop walking around like that, especially if you know nothing about guns. In many departments, the choice is driven by poor training stemming from tight budgets; it's far easier to teach some one to shoot a DAO auto than to manipulate the various controls on more complex guns.

So, what I'm getting at, is that unless you have some specific need for that system, you might be better off in the long run with something else. I seem to remember you picked up shooting seriously fairly recently, and enjoy recreational shooting. You may very well shoot better, for now, with this DAO system. In the long run, however, taking the time to get really good with a single action pull will pay bigger dividends. You will simply shoot better.

nostatic · nostatic's Garage

I know that going with what the "pros" use is often a red herring. Those decisions are based on budget and liability concerns more than performance.

I'm going to try and shoot one to see what it feels like. I know that I didn't like the Glocks I tried, and the SA on my p226 is like buttah. Like most things, it probably can be solved with practice...I was shooting the p225 which is not broken in by any stretch of the imagination.

red-beard · red-beard's Garage

I had my SA triggers lightened to 4 lbs. I can drill holes in the target at 7 yards. For carry, cocked and locked.

I'm selling my Sig P239. It's too big for carry. My Full size 1911-A1 is easier to conceal. Very very nice pistol. Very accurate with .357sig. But my 1911 is as or more accurate and .45 is way cheaper than .357sig.

The P-239 is DA/SA. I do like the idea that the first shot is DA, but I'd rather have 8 .45 than 8 .40 S&W.