Impeachment talk from Ron Paul (R)

[Moses]

1033 (1995) Morocco
Reiterates call for "genuine cooperation" with UN efforts.

1044 (1996) Sudan
Calls upon Sudan to extradite to Ethiopia for prosecution three suspects in an assassination attempt of visiting Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak and to cease its support for sanctuary and offering of sanctuary to terrorists.

1054 (1996) Sudan
Demands that Sudan come into compliance with UNSC resolution 1044.

1056 (1996) Morocco
Calls for the release of political prisoners from occupied Western Sahara.

1070 (1996) Sudan
Reiterates demands to comply with 1044 and 1054.

1073 (1996) Israel
"Calls on the safety and security of Palestinian civilians to be ensured."

1079 (1996) Croatia
Reaffirms right of return for Serbian refugees to Croatia.

1092 (1996) Turkey/Cyprus
Calls for a reduction of foreign troops in Cyprus as the first step toward a total withdrawal troops as well as a reduction in military spending.

1117 (1997) Turkey/Cyprus
Reiterates call for a reduction of foreign troops in Cyprus as the first step toward a total withdrawal troops and reduction in military spending.

1120 (1997) Croatia
Reaffirms right of return for Serbian refugees to Croatia and calls on Croatia to change certain policies that obstruct this right, and to treat its citizens equally regardless of ethnic origin.

1145 (1997) Croatia
Reiterates Croatian responsibility in supporting the political and economic rights of its people regardless of ethnic origin.

1172 (1998) India, Pakistan
Calls upon India and Pakistan to cease their development of nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles.

1178 (1998) Turkey/Cyprus
Reiterates call for a substantial reduction of foreign troops and reduction in military spending.

1185 (1998) Morocco
Calls for the lifting of restrictions of movement by aircraft of UN peacekeeping force.

1215 (1998) Morocco
Urges Morocco to promptly sign a "status of forces agreement."

1217 (1998) Turkey/Cyprus
Reiterates call for a substantial reduction of foreign troops and reduction in military spending.

1251 (1999) Turkey/Cyprus
Reiterates call for a substantial reduction of foreign troops and reduction in military spending.

1264 (1999) Indonesia
Calls on Indonesia to provide safe return for refugees and punish those for acts of violence during and after the referendum campaign.

1272 (1999) Indonesia
Stresses the need for Indonesia to provide for the safe return for refugees and maintain the civilian and humanitarian character of refugee camps.

1283 (1999) Turkey/Cyprus
Reiterates UNSC resolution 1251.

1303 (2000) Turkey/Cyprus
Reiterates UNSC resolutions 1283 and 1251.

1319 (2000) Indonesia
Insists that Indonesia "take immediate additional steps, in fulfillment of its responsibilities, to disarm and disband the militia immediately, restore law and order in the affected areas of West Timor, ensure safety and security in the refugee camps and for humanitarian workers, and prevent incursions into East Timor." Stresses that those guilty of attacks on international personnel be brought to justice and reiterates the need to provide safe return for refugees who wish to repatriate and provide resettlement for those wishing to stay in Indonesia.

1322 (2000) Israel
Calls upon Israel to scrupulously abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention regarding the responsibilities of occupying power.

1331 (2000) Turkey/Cyprus
Reiterates UNSC resolution 1251 and subsequent resolutions.

1338 (2001) Indonesia
Calls for Indonesian cooperation with the UN and other international agencies in the fulfillment of UNSC resolution 1319.

1359 (2001) Morocco
Calls on the parties to "abide by their obligations under international humanitarian law to release without further delay all those held since the start of the conflict."

1384 (2001) Turkey/Cyprus
Reiterates 1251 and all relevant resolutions on Cyprus.

1402 (2002) Israel
Calls for Israel to withdraw from Palestinian cities.

1403 (2002) Israel
Demands that Israel go through with "the implementation of its resolution 1402, without delay."

1405 (2002) Israel
Calls for UN inspectors to investigate civilian deaths during an Israeli assault on the Jenin refugee camp.

1416 (2002) Turkey/Cyprus
Reiterates UNSC resolution 1251 and all relevant resolutions on Cyprus.

1435 (2002) Israel
Calls on Israel to withdraw to positions of September 2000 and end its military activities in and around Ramallah, including the destruction of security and civilian infrastructure.

[Mulhollanddose]

So you have established the UN is toothless...In the case of Iraq their were not only toothless, but complicit.

Where would you recommend we centralize the war on terror, Moses?...Egypt? Moroco? Palestine?

How intellectually feeble...God help us.

[dd74]

Originally posted by Mulhollanddose
You call nailing the #2 Al qaeda and finding WMD, "unraveling"?

If the media was behind (not with a knife thrusting) Bush the impression would be wholy different.

I call a 21st Century Quagmire founded on an illegal war "unraveling."

And it seems many true Republicans feel the same way.

BTW: get your facts straight - the #2 al Queda man is still alive, and there have been no WMDs found as of yet.

[Mulhollanddose]

Originally posted by dd74
BTW: get your facts straight - the #2 al Queda man is still alive, and there have been no WMDs found as of yet.

No question that Zawahiri was not as important as Zarqawi....We have found WMD and Saddam had the desire and plans to evolve his programs...Saddam had at least one organization willing and able to deliver chemical weapons, eg. al qaeda.

[dd74]

Moses cites truth - Bush et al thumb their noses at the UN and like-minded countries who sought to mediate this act of vengeance in ways other than warfare, but he now pleads with the UN to do something about N. Korea, knowing the North Koreans are just a little too large for this administration's gaping vitrolic mouth to swallow.

A hypocritical and pathetic show of leadership.

[nostatic]

pssst: Indonesia

[Mulhollanddose]

Originally posted by dd74
Moses cites truth - Bush et al thumb their noses at the UN and like-minded countries who sought to mediate this act of vengeance in ways other than warfare, but he now pleads with the UN to do something about N. Korea, knowing the North Koreans are just a little too large for this administration's gaping vitrolic mouth to swallow.

The UN's hands were bloody with Iraqi blood and black with Iraqi oil. They could not be trusted to handle Iraq. The UN's only source of credibility is their alignment with America and Republicans.

Gaping vitriolic mouth?...Please expand on this...I am pretty darned sure the vitriol is coming exclusively from the left.

[dd74]

Originally posted by Mulhollanddose
...We have found WMD and Saddam had the desire and plans to evolve his programs...Saddam had at least one organization willing and able to deliver chemical weapons, eg. al qaeda.

When were they found?

[Moses]

Originally posted by Mulhollanddose

Where would you recommend we centralize the war on terror, Moses?...Egypt? Moroco? Palestine?

Glad you asked!

I posted this here more than a year ago;

Let me start by saying I am not in favor of the military excursion in Iraq. Nor am I a lefty apologist who thinks America is responsible for most what's wrong in the world. We are still a superpower, and everywhere we go leaves a bigger footprint.

Here's how I see it; The Mullahs and Imams and Saddams have one thing in common. They cling to power with the tenacity of a pit bull. To keep power, they imprison and murder the political opposition, even relatives. Some are religious hardliners, some are secular power brokers. They may not fear death, but loss of power is unthinkable.

Why not announce to the world that we intend to establish a covert-ops superfund. Tell the third world that we intend to infiltrate every level of government, buying and stealing secrets in an attempt to thwart terrorism. If our clandestine research reveals credible evidence that your nation has knowingly supported, harbored or sheltered terrorist organizations, you will be removed from power. There will be no invading army or occupying force. No attempt at nation building. Your leaders will simply disappear. Perhaps in the middle of the night at the hands of a team of specialists, perhaps in a single blinding flash of a cruise missle as your government assembles. Whatever new leaders arise to fill the leadership vacuum of your departure is of no consequence to us. We will deliver to them the same message you just received; we will not abide the sanctioning of terrorists.

Perhaps with the proper "motivation" the Saudi royal family and the Mullahs and Imams might actually police themselves.

Just a thought.

[dd74]

Originally posted by Moses


Just a thought.

I like it, but would worry it'd plunge the region into civil war. After all, with Saddam in power, there was authority, the country did function, and it was less a threat than it is now, both to itself and us.

[dd74]

Originally posted by Mulhollanddose
...We have found WMD and Saddam had the desire and plans to evolve his programs...Saddam had at least one organization willing and able to deliver chemical weapons, eg. al qaeda.

Still waiting on that date of when WMDs were found in Iraq.

[Mulhollanddose]

Originally posted by dd74
Still waiting on that date of when WMDs were found in Iraq.

http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/Iraq_WMD_Declassified.pdf

[Moses]

Originally posted by dd74
I like it, but would worry it'd plunge the region into civil war. After all, with Saddam in power, there was authority, the country did function, and it was less a threat than it is now, both to itself and us.

Like I said, I would not have "displaced" Saddam until he had been duly warned and we found credible evidence that he continued to support terrorists. Nothing like a few midnight assasinations to get a tyrants attention.

[Tobra]

Originally posted by dd74
When were they found?

I am sure at some point you commented in this thread.

Santorum Thread

I seem to recall you saying something about it not being important because they were old, and the Sarin was probably no good and the mustard gas probably would not kill you because it was old.

This is all political posturing, election year and all, nbot surprising what would spew forth from, what was the term, "the vitriolic mouth" of a political opportunist.

[Mulhollanddose]

Originally posted by Moses
Like I said, I would not have "displaced" Saddam until he had been duly warned and we found credible evidence that he continued to support terrorists. Nothing like a few midnight assasinations to get a tyrants attention.

Saddam was "duly warned"...It was the fact that he was "duly warned" that allowed Saddam to destroy evidence and dismantle and/or bury his WMD programs.

[RoninLB]

If the Dems win either the Senate or House there will probably be impeachment proceedings. It's no longer the looney Left either. It's many from the Dem mainstream who are open to impeachment. The facts won't matter. It's blocking Bush's policies that matter. The general theme of "criminal conduct" hasn't caught on as well as "incompetence" has as the Dems default position. At least Dem Russ Feingold is honest about the Dems position. The Dems are upset that the President has been too energetic in using his powers to defend America.

btw.. 20th century rules will not win a 21st century war.

[techweenie]

Where to centralize the battle against "terrorists?"

Afghanistan.

Value of degraded "WMDs" in human lives? 1-20th or, put another way, maybe one broken leg.

[Moses]

Originally posted by Mulhollanddose
Saddam was "duly warned"...It was the fact that he was "duly warned" that allowed Saddam to destroy evidence and dismantle and/or bury his WMD programs.

I guess you didn't read my post. Oh well.

[cool_chick]

Originally posted by techweenie
Where to centralize the battle against "terrorists?"

Afghanistan.

Value of degraded "WMDs" in human lives? 1-20th or, put another way, maybe one broken leg.

Don't weapons have to be able to do mass destruction to be a weapon of MASS DESTRUCTION?

LOL

[nostatic]

Originally posted by Mulhollanddose
Saddam was "duly warned"...It was the fact that he was "duly warned" that allowed Saddam to destroy evidence and dismantle and/or bury his WMD programs.

wasn't that the whole point? To dismantle his WMD program?

oh wait...I forgot...it wasn't about WMDs, it is about bringing democracy to the region. Or spreading honey to bring all the terrorists in the world to Iraq.

Its surprising that some of you guys rail against Hollywood since this administration cranks out some of the best fiction and plots twists to be found. Or maybe its just a few members of the public at large that are their devoted followers...