an open letter to OT

[tabs]

And thats why I commented....They know no what they do....

[Porsche-O-Phile]

Great post Todd.

Of course the master-baiters will object the loudest.

[Flatbutt1]

as always the trolls have come forward throwing politics into the mix when the point was to please throttle things back, not to censor topics per se but just to try and stop the personal attacks.

[fintstone]

Funny Todd....how the folks with similar politics to you have posted their encouragement (you go girl!)...they assume that you do not have character or judgement enough to act fairly and that you seek to ban the more conservative side of the argument (selective enforcement)...when it is they (kings of the personal attack and name calling) that you apparently refer to...If you actually enforced the rules strictly and equally, they would be some of the first to go. Please do enforce the rules...but do so fairly.

[Rondinone]

Originally posted by tabs

If this little forum is a microcosm of the rest of the USA...then we are in serious trouble...Americans of different political persuasions are no longer talking to each other but over each other and neither side is listening. Look at my comments about a House Divided and another American Civil War...

I don't think so. I think that the anonymity of the internet allows people to be vicious without repercusions. People are still civil face-to-face.

[tabs]

Geezus how fking paranoid do U fking Conservatives have to be...there are plenty of whacko Liberals who U could hit on the head with a shovel and still not make a dent....that rant and rave at the full moon on this Board...

And all U Conservatives have to do is look around and read what I post to know I ain't no mamby pamby scummy Liberal...yech...

[tabs]

Originally posted by Rondinone
I don't think so. I think that the anonymity of the internet allows people to be vicious without repercusions. People are still civil face-to-face.

Have you watched CNN or Fox lately????

Last night on O'reilly his surrogate had the Democrats Director of Public something or other on and all she could do was attack Bush...she never really answered the question posed to her...it was just a matter of talking over...if you talk loud enough and long enough it must be true...

[Icemaster]

Originally posted by tabs
And all U Conservatives have to do is look around and read what I post to know I ain't no mamby pamby scummy Liberal...yech...

Likewise, Fint. You and Mul do a great job of giving Republicans a bad name.

If you can't have a civil debate on a topic, it's irrelevant what side of the aisle you sit on. There's trolls on both sides, both are equally culpable. THAT's the point of this thread.

Both Left and Right would make things a hell of a lot nicer for the rest of the folks here by learning four simple words:

"We agree to disagree."

[Mulhollanddose]

Originally posted by john70t
quote:"it is become a cottage industry, hate, the likes that we have never been guilty of in the conservative movement." -ummm, Clinton?

I don't recall one anti-Clinton sticker...I have seen thousands of W crossed out stickers...1,000s!

[widgeon13]

This thread is no different from all the rest. Someone should close this one as well. It's the same people perpetuating this discussion, why not just let the subject die and stop passing hollow messages back and forth. The problem has no solution other than just having a little more respect for other folks and their opinions.

[artplumber]

Ironic isn't it?

[dtw]

It's like self-fulfilling prophecy or something. Moths to a flame.

[bryanthompson]

Maybe I'll join a DeLorean or 240z forum. I don't own either, but *shrug* I'm sure it'll work out fine.

I barely own a Porsche. I mean, a 944, I know. Okay, woohoo. But at least I'm not some random guy that camps out and acts like I own the place. For some reason, I just don't think that would fly at most (moderated) forums.

[Tobra]

Originally posted by artplumber
Ironic isn't it?

Yes, yes it is, that did not even sort of work, though I must confess I would have been more surprised if it generated a well reasoned discussion.

People are rude and opinionated, some of them anyway. This place is like real life, only more so for some people.

[cool_chick]

Well join whatever you like, Bryan. No one's stopping you.

You are also a visitor here. You don't own this website, you don't do the labor to keep this website running or pay someone to do it. You do nothing to keep this business going. It is not up to you who can or cannot visit Wayne's house.

If you feel so strongly about it, create your own Porsche website, buy the servers, do the website developing, and do the maintenance to keep it running. Then you can dictate who can post on that forum.

Pelican is a private venture and the owners are the one who makes decisions on what takes place here, not you....you are also a guest.

[bryanthompson]

I buy Porsche parts for my the Porsche that I own, so I would venture to say that I contribute more towards the operation of this BBS than a non-Porsche/VW/BMW owner, so I think your argument is totally bogus. It seems to me, this forum's purpose is to give a place for Porsche/VW/BMW owners to congregate.

edit: I realize that this is a public website, so any yahoo can come and sign up for an account. Some people register for an account and spam "free GPS" receivers, others spam with political nonsense. Neither own Porsches, but both are equally as annoying. I think we should stop banning the Free GPS guys, since it would be pretty hard to make a distinction between the two, and rules are pretty much meaningless.

[cool_chick]

I have sent people to Pelican, bought gift certificates, and have probably seen more Porsches owned by people that post here than you.

It seems to me that you have no right to dictate what a private business owner should do.

[bryanthompson]

cc, you are like, the 911 guys' groupie or something. I don't have a problem with it. In fact, I think it's cute. You're a pretty girl, you fly out to see the 911 guys, maybe play cars a little bit, whatever. That's cool.

Mul and Fastpaste are not pretty girls. Lotsofstatus recognized a problem and opened it up for discussion. That's all this is about. I see the two of them as sources of sooooo many problems around here, but that's just me, and I notice that neither of them seem to have a logical reason for being here.

aside: am I incorrect in thinking fastpat doesn't own a Porsche?

[Mulhollanddose]

Originally posted by bryanthompson
Maybe I'll join a DeLorean or 240z forum. I don't own either, but *shrug* I'm sure it'll work out fine.

I barely own a Porsche. I mean, a 944, I know. Okay, woohoo. But at least I'm not some random guy that camps out and acts like I own the place. For some reason, I just don't think that would fly at most (moderated) forums.

What exactly got your panties in a bunch Bryan...please be specific young man.

[fintstone]

Originally posted by Icemaster
Likewise, Fint. You and Mul do a great job of giving Republicans a bad name.

If you can't have a civil debate on a topic, it's irrelevant what side of the aisle you sit on. There's trolls on both sides, both are equally culpable. THAT's the point of this thread.

Both Left and Right would make things a hell of a lot nicer for the rest of the folks here by learning four simple words:

"We agree to disagree."

I like how you answer a post by Tabs with a dig at Mul and myself...as if it were my post. Such tactics!

I have no problem with a "civil debate"...unfortunately many that post here don't consider it a civil debate unless we agree with you.....alas...it is not me that begins the name calling....I don't believe that I have ever once made a personal post addressing you by name as you just did me. Sorta the pot calling the kettle...don't ya think?