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Leiberman defeated...maybe
Looks like Democrat hawk, perpetual whiner, and Bush'ist suck up Joe Lieberman has lost his primary in Connecticutt with 84% of the precincts reporting.
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That is good. It clears the way for the GOP to pick up a seat in Connecticut. What a gift. Once everyone gets a load of Lamant, the Republicans could run just about anyone out there and smack down that socialist pussy.
How pathetic are the Democrats right about now?
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The only chance the Repubs have of picking up that seat is if Liberman runs as an independent, which he might actually do. If he makes that incredibly selfish move, what little respect he still commands will disappear. But it might be enough to throw the election to the other side.
Anyone that wants to continue to see Republican domination of every branch of government for another two years hasn't been paying attention to the miserable condition our country finds itself in at the moment. We are in desperate need of Congressional oversight of this administration. The only way we get that is to elect Dems this time around.
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Well, he's running.
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I think miserable is too strong a word to describe the condition of the country. The economy is pretty strong and unemployment is low. I'm not happy with what the GOP is doing (or not doing) with immigration and they're not getting the message across about the goals in Iraq, but the Democrats don't have any message at all when it comes to anything!
People want to vote for something, rather than against something or someone. Hating Bush is not going to swing the Congress to the left. If the Democrats come up with a coherent plan, they could get both houses. Without something tangible, it's going to be incumbents holding the line.
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I don't think it is even remotely possible for the GOP to gain ground in CT. If you lived here, you'd know what I mean.
Expect a 3rd spinter party to run in 2008 with a McCain/Leiberman ballot.
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McKinney's out. So long, don't let the door hit you on the ass on way out.
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Maybe there's a bright side. If Lieberman runs as an Indy, and is successful, maybe it's exactly what the party needs. A big name like Lieberman being an independent, might attract other big names. Unless the party doesn't want that...
BTW, am I the only person in this thread who knows how to correctly spell the Senator's name: L-I-E-B-E-R-M-A-N. ![]()
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It depends which part of Connecticut. I happen to live in Fairfield County. In this county, there are a lot of very wealthy residents. Much of this area is a bedroom-community for NYC.
Fairfield County is a strong Republican foothold. However, as you head to the other counties in the state, it turns from red to blue. BTW, I did not vote yesterday as I am not registered with that party. But, I have long held the opinion that Lieberman is pompus, opportunistic dickhead. He has a history of playing by the rules as long as they suit his purposes. Then, if they don't, he decides to play by his own rules (hence this independant campaign). Lieberman is about to give the Democratic party a royal screwing. |
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I wrote a few years ago that all you need is $10M to run for Congress. Dean opened that gate.
The real issue here is the growing power of the Far Left. How that will affect the party is ?? Hillary & Far Left's new power ?
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The only positive thing I can say about Leiberman is he does not put his party before his convictions or before his country. He is just wrong about the war, a really big mistake many have made.
I don't like the guy, I don't like that he is running as an independent. He should find a new career.
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The ramifications of this could be huge. If the Dem party feels this is a call for them to move "loony left" then it will cost them in the November elections. JMHO.
BTW, Lieberman will win as an independent anyway.
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I've never liked the guy either, but anything that helps dismantle the 2 party grip on the electorate is a good thing in my book. The more choices, the better.
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Although the voters in CT made this decision, I think it bodes ill for the Democratic party as a whole. They have lost one of their only centrists that was remaining which means they will move even farther towards the radical left. I have a feeling that the Democrats will gain seats this November, maybe even get a majority back in the house, but will shoot themselves in the foot come 2008. The majority of America is simply not in line with the far left's ideas. You really cannot win a Presidential election in this country while pandering to the radical left. This would be similar to McCain losing a primary to Pat Robertson.
Somehow I think a McCain/Lieberman ticket is not all that far fetched. Oh, and isn't it just perfect that McKinney got booted out? Wonder how long until she claims some sort of racial reason for her defeat?
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Being anti-stupidity (as in "anti-Iraq-war") is hardly "loony left". Yet another poll today shows 60% of the American public outright opposing the war but of course you'll say that polls aren't valid and don't mean anything (unless presumably they're favoring your position, right?)
Look around and talk to a few people that aren't members of the Oil Executives Club, the Coalition of Bush Supporters, the Fox News Sewing Circle, the local chapter of the KKK, the Americans for Bombs, Guns and Destruction Club or the Federation for Good Old Fashioned White Christian Male Supremacy in your area and ask 'em what they think. The opinions out there are overwhelmingly negative towards this administration, where they think the nation is headed under current leadership and certainly about the war. I've spoken to all manner of people - ardent right-wingers all the way to "out there" left wingers and the common ground they almost ALL have is that this administration is a failure and that the war is a bad idea. Instead of focusing on ways to differentiate people, this country needs unification and people that can focus on ways to bring them together. I just gave two examples. Let's start with those and try to mend the huge rift that's tearing our nation asunder right now. What do you offer? Oh, more division, more intolerance, more hatred, more name calling and more damage to a nation under the guise of "supporting" it. ![]() Nobody wants to see a "loony left" Democratic platform any more than we want to see a "radical right" Republican platform. It'd be far more discriminating (given our nation's lack of alternatives and predelection towards silly party politics in the first place) to have a battle over near-centrist positions than extreme-left versus extreme-right. Ultimately the latter is only divisive and more destructive to the nation as a whole. I blame BOTH parties for polarizing themselves. Neither has the moral high ground right now of moving more centrist - both have done the opposite and in doing so, are contributing to the destruction of the nation. Although I think Lieberman is a fool for supporting the war, it only goes to show how politics really is. If he'd changed his mind and come out against the war, he'd simply be accused of "flip flopping". If he'd stayed the course (as he did) he'd be accused of being bull-headed and obstinate and out of touch with his constituency. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Nobody wins. . . Ironically kind of like the war itself. Such is the sad state of our so-called "democracy" today.
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The Lamont campaign was pushed by the internet loony left (Daily Kos, MoveOn, and just about every other lib blog). They will now try to cash in this earned capital by pushing other Dem candidates to the left. This is a bad scenario for the dems as far left doesn't win outside nationally. Hell, Lamont won't even win in Conn come November.
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It's not "radical left" to oppose this incompetent, big-spending, big government, clueless administration. That's just spin, intended to appeal to voters that don't actually think about policy, but vote based on labels.
Keep talking about the "loony left" and the "radical left," but the American public has figured out by now that you are talking about them. The people that oppose this war, that are sick of high oil prices, that were dispirited by the Katrina incompetence, and that want some Congressional check on this brash and reckless administration represent ALL Americans, not some fringe group you can dismiss with a label.
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Lamont got everyone talking in CT. He really appeals to people. I predict a big win for him in CT in Nov.
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