Oh, Geez !!??!!

red-beard · red-beard's Garage

Foley alleges clergyman abused him as teen

From CNN

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Former Rep. Mark Foley was molested as a teen by a clergyman, his attorney says. David Roth added the admission was made as part of Foley's recovery program at a treatment center. The growing scandal erupted Friday when Foley quit amid questions over e-mails allegedly sent to a former page.

OK. I can take all of the BS that has been previously discussed on this subject, but for this scum to now try to weasle away by saying he was molested as a child...Un-Freakin-believeable.

Moses · 10-03-2006, 06:49 PM

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Originally posted by red-beard
Foley alleges clergyman abused him as teen

From CNN

OK. I can take all of the BS that has been previously discussed on this subject, but for this scum to now try to weasle away by saying he was molested as a child...Un-Freakin-believeable.

Oh, the humanity! He's a VICTIM!

rcecale · rcecale's Garage

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Originally posted by red-beard
Former Rep. Mark Foley was molested as a teen by a clergyman, his attorney says. David Roth added the admission was made as part of Foley's recovery program at a treatment center. The growing scandal erupted Friday when Foley quit amid questions over e-mails allegedly sent to a former page.

I can't believe Foley actually hired the former front-man for Van Halen as his attorney...

Randy

Rearden · 10-03-2006, 07:00 PM

Foley's actions have a root cause.
Now give the victim his job back, for chrissakes.

sammyg2 · 07:07 PM

It's not his fault, it's someone elses fault! bahhhh.

Our society has a tendency to look for excuses and to lay blame on someone else. I figure that comes directly from our legal system and those who perpetuate it (lawyers).
Whatever happened to personal accountability?
I can say I wasn't raised that way. Just about every good thing that has happened to me I earned. Just about every bad thing that has happened to me I deserved.
Is that so hard to say? No, it just takes a little bit of character and pride in the fact that you are an honest person and you do the right thing.

I was completely pissed last week when I found out that two people I supported both financially and with prayer filed suit against the city of dana point because they knew they could get big bucks.
The people I'm talking about are the two joggers that were hit by a drunk driver and are now paralyzed.
The drunk driver didn't have any money so they decided to blame the deep pockets, the city where it happened. SHAME ON THEM! they went after the easy money.
Sure they need it.
Sure life with the money will be easier. sure something bad happened to them.
But I will no longer have anything to do with them now that they are suing the city of dana point for having "an unsafe street".
I detest people who do that and the lawers who talk them into it and help them lie. I detest the stupid bleeding hearts who sit on the juries and award crazy sums of money to people who don't deserve it and from organizations that are not to blame.
The fault of their incident is as follows: they decided to go jogging on a busy street. thier decision.
A drunk driver swerved and hit them. He screwed up.
that's it.
Can someone please tell me how the people who live in dana point contributed to their accident? Please explain to me why the good citizens of that city will have to give these two women millions of dollars just because something happened to them that the people of dana point had absolutely nothing to do with?
it makes me sick.
THE CIVIL COURTS ARE NOT YOUR PERSONAL LOTTERY!

Todd Simpson · 10-03-2006, 07:12 PM

What happened to me was so terrible I had to do it to someone else.

nostatic · nostatic's Garage

some of us go to a shrink before we do stupid/evil things...

well, except for divorces. But that's different.

widebody911 · widebody911's Garage

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Originally posted by nostatic
some of us go to a shrink before we do stupid/evil things...

well, except for divorces. But that's different.

You mis-spelled 'marriages'

nostatic · nostatic's Garage

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Originally posted by widebody911
You mis-spelled 'marriages'

I mis-spent my youth too...what's your point?

artplumber · 10-03-2006, 07:57 PM

Stupidity abounds. Admittedly, what I've seen of the emails is hardly to the level of incrimination (although a lot of innuendo may be present). But this claim is absolutely idiotic. Foley or his handlers are apparently dumb enough not only fail to curb his appetites, but then trot out this lame excuse.

dd74 · 10-03-2006, 08:20 PM

Foley should, according to many, go to prison. Hastert should resign.

Big fat hanging curve ball for the Dems. Swing and a miss?

Oh...now Roth is saying Foley's gay. What's that say to/about gays?

So...

1) he's a pedofile because he's a drunk.

2) He's a pedofile because he's been molested by the church.

3) He's a pedofile because he's gay.

What's next? He's a pedofile because he's in government service.

What a ***** storm. What a ***** storm.

Hugh R · 10-03-2006, 09:07 PM

So why do we have 16 year olds as pages? Shouldn't they be 18 that way it would be legal, just kidding. But anyway, 16 year olds going to Washington seems a little young to me.

Rodeo · 10-04-2006, 04:57 AM

It's actually a really good experience for most of them, and very competitive to get in. The have their own residence, constant supervision, curfews every night -- kinda like boarding school for a semester.

But it's the Congress' job to protect them, because they are so young. Congress failed pretty badly in this instance.

I heard a former page on O'Riley last night, he said they had a nickname for Foley, "FFF." Foley Fag from Florida.

It appears that EVERYBODY knew about this pervert -- except of course the Speaker.

Which is why I don't believe him.

Jeff Higgins · 10-04-2006, 05:15 AM

Does this mean Bubba was forced to blow his cousins in Arkansas as a kid?

lendaddy · 10-04-2006, 05:17 AM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it is legal to do 16 year olds in D.C. The age of consent is 16. Thats why Rep. Studds was able to keep his seat after admitting banging a page. So it's not a question of legal, it's a question of right/wrong.

Jims5543 · 10-04-2006, 05:22 AM

Buhahaha!! I was listening to Bubba the Love Sponge and they predicted he was going to pull the "I was abused by clergy" about 45 minutes before his press conference.

Good stuff...

BTW- The e-mails you are seeing and hearing on testicular radio are very edited. They read the full version of the Soccer Practice one and Foley and the kid go into detail over how the kid masturbates. Its pretty raw.

Rodeo · 10-04-2006, 05:39 AM

From the Washington Post:

In 1995, male House pages were warned to steer clear of a freshman Republican from Florida, who was already learning the names of the teenagers, dashing off notes, letters and e-mails to them, and asking them to join him for ice cream, according to a former page.

Mark Beck-Heyman, now a graduate student in clinical psychology at George Washington University, and more than a dozen other former House pages said in interviews and via e-mail that Rep. Mark Foley was known to be extraordinarily friendly in a way that made some of them uncomfortable.

Moneyguy1 · 10-04-2006, 08:41 AM

And then there was the interview between Newt and Chris Wallace in which Newt, in effect stated that the GOP didn't want to get involved with the potential of "gay bashing".

http://mediamatters.org/items/200610010003

What the Hell is going on?

Does ANYONE in Washington take responsibility for their actions or is it truly that we have turned into a "Society of Victims" and no one is guilty, only the result of someone else's actions?

lendaddy · 09:04 AM

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Originally posted by Moneyguy1
And then there was the interview between Newt and Chris Wallace in which Newt, in effect stated that the GOP didn't want to get involved with the potential of "gay bashing".

http://mediamatters.org/items/200610010003

What the Hell is going on?

Does ANYONE in Washington take responsibility for their actions or is it truly that we have turned into a "Society of Victims" and no one is guilty, only the result of someone else's actions?

Foley is guilty, we kicked him out.

I really don't see anything actionable in the original e-mail myself. The whole thing is more complicated than the surface.

It wasn't long ago that Rep. Studds had an open sexual relationship with a 17 year page and not only was he not jailed, or removed from congress, he was applauded by the dems for having the courage to face it and was re-elected many times. 16 is the age of consent in D.C. so it's not a matter of illegality.

I'm really not sure how one squares the previous handling of Congress on a much worse matter(sexual contact) to Foley asking for a picture. Then they were told to work along side this guy(Studds) and it was none of their business.

But now they are to act on a member asking for a picture and it is their business? So much so that immediate and drconian measures should be taken immediately or risk removal yourself? Quite a swing in standards I say.

I personally think it should be illegal and he should be in jail, he is slime. But you have to look at it from their perspective.....what if the kid were 18 (likely legal age where you live) would that change anything?

I'm trying to get across the mindset of those you think should have removed Foley back then, not to draw and equivalence to the matters.

Oh let me count the ways my statement will be twisted.....

Moneyguy1 · 10-04-2006, 09:07 AM

I think, len, part of the "outrage" is really centered in the involvement of the individual in a program that put him in contact with the kids. I dunno...kinda like hiring a pedophile to run your daycare center.

I am not going to twist your words. Granted, the initial correspondences that have been released on the surface appear to be "innocent enough", but probably should have at least put up some "gale warning" flags somewhere.

My problem with Newt's words was this "politically correct" mode that seems so prevalent in our society.