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Rikao4 12-09-2006 08:16 AM

Oh, who to hate ?
Dad was a fullblooded Indian of the reservation
Mom as German as they can be
leaving me free to hate everyone, well not Tabs
Rika

nostatic 12-09-2006 08:24 AM

yeah, the germans never did anything untoward :p

Dan in Pasadena 12-09-2006 08:29 AM

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Originally posted by Rikao4
Oh, who to hate ?
Dad was a fullblooded Indian of the reservation
Mom as German as they can be
leaving me free to hate everyone, well not Tabs
Rika

Bruce,
Now, if you're left handed, your wife is Asian and you hold your tongue just right, you ALMOST qualify as a "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle";) :D

Rikao4 12-09-2006 08:36 AM

Static, with a good tan..I have been confused as someone from the ME,
when I came to this place 'Combat ' was a popular show..I got hassled because 'your a Nazi' I looked like them 'white' when my future father in-law saw a pic..'he's a mexican'
she.. no he's german..inlaws 'thats even worse'
my dogs like me, so I can't be all that bad.
Rika

skipdup 12-09-2006 08:43 AM

Re: Black Colleges... I had TWO white friends that attended FAMU.

Do any historically black schools block entrance of non-black students?

- Skip

cashflyer 12-09-2006 08:54 AM

I hate all people, regardless of skin color or heritage.

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Originally posted by nostatic
Other races can be racist. No one ever said they can't.
No one ever said that? Not true. I have a training video from a well known retail chain that I used to work for, managing one of their stores. In the training video they state, and this is a direct quote, "Racial discrimination occurs when white people......."

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Originally posted by on-ramp
just wait until Hispanics are the majority in this country - then we'll see how many rights that whites will have.
I think the answer will still be, "none".

Dottore 12-09-2006 09:32 AM

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Originally posted by Rick Lee
You ought to see how much Chinese folks hate Japanese folks. Palestineans and Jews got nothing on them in the hate dept. Everyone's a racist in someone else's view.
That's very true. Lot's of people are racist. Ask a Greek about Turks or a White Russian about Chechyens for example. Or take the Japanese: try to marry a Japanese girl and you'll find out what racism really is. Or ask my Chinese friend whose daughter wants to marry a black man.

Or scratch the surface of a Swiss and find out how racially tolerant they are. Or a Jew. Or just about anyone else for that matter.

This kind of tribal racism is very, very widespread - and was the norm before globalization became a factor. It is really only in immigrant nations like the US, Canada and Australia that racial tolerance has been a social priority for any length of time. In nations like ours we simply have to get along with everone. We cannot discriminate. At least we cannot be seen to discriminate. But that doesn't mean we cannot hate every other tribe just as much as we like.

I think the bottom line is that this kind of tribal racism is everywhere. We aren't going to change that anytime soon. It's the institutional racism that's really the problem. As someone once said to me in Savannah "Just because I hate blacks, doesn't mean I think we should discriminate against them."

artplumber 12-09-2006 09:32 AM

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Originally posted by Rick Lee
I'm talking about Chinese IN China and those who've only been here for a few years. My GF is from Nanjing and there are so many in this area from Nanjing that they have their own BBS with a LOT of members. But in Mainland China, no one is hated more than the Japanese. It runs as deep as any hatred anywhere else.
Chinese hate Japanese because of WWII, just as Koreans hate them because of the centuries of subjugation. (Funny thing is, if you're not in SF/LA/NY and you eat Japanese it's 50% that the owner will be Korean.) And Japanese hate everyone else too.

All of this aside, in this country the dominating race/sex is white male. I'm happy to compete with them on a one on one basis, problem is the oldboy network remains and is hard to break into. I had parents who bootstrapped us, so I can only imagine how tough it is if you really come from the ghetto. I can see both sides of the argument. It's still easier to get ahead here than in any other white dominated country.

930addict 12-09-2006 09:55 AM

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Originally posted by Racerbvd
Well, had people not been brought over here, they could still be being sold as slaves in Africa. Total BS, they are owed nothing, the Irish were discriminated against too, and we had to pay our way over. Why doesn't anyone go after the tribes who sold their own people into slavery??
Bingo! Black tribes in Africa were the ones selling their black brothers to the world for slaves, yet you never see this mentioned when people talk about slavery in America. Do I feel bad about what happened? Of course - about as bad as knowing six million jews were murdered in Germany in the late 30's and early 40's. You don't see the jewish people using that as a crutch to get ahead in life, or to get preferential treatment for schools. Sadly, many black people hold white people in general accountable for slavery. According to that logic, if a black person kills a white person then we should put that black persons entire family on trial.

In college I had an english class that had four black guys in it. Three of them were american and they walked in with their pants hanging off their ass and bad attitude expressions on their faces. They sat in the back of the class. The other was from africa and sat in the front of the class, next to me in fact. No chip on his shoulder. He was very bright and extremely pleasant. We got along very well. My professor started lecturing and during the course of the lecture stated a published statistic that 70%(? I don't remember the number exactly) of inmates are black. The three guys at the back of the class were not there the next day and the teacher was called in for questinoing. Nothing happened there because he did absolutely nothing wrong.

I think black people need to heed the advice of Bill Cosby in his infamous "come to Jesus" speech. Get over it.

scottmandue 12-09-2006 10:01 AM

Well last night I watched a recorded video of FIA GT1/GT2 and I have been know to spend my Sunday afternoons watching F1, CART, even sports sedan and recently targa rally racing so does that make me a race-ist?

Rick Lee 12-09-2006 10:18 AM

The only difference between racism in the US and everywhere else in the world (it DOES exist everywhere else) is that American like to feel guilty about and overanalyze everything.

And the Chinese don't just hate the Japanese because of WWII. They teach their newer generations to keep hating them because Japan to this day still whitewashes their wartime behavior toward China. They have apologized and paid reparations to all the other places they ravaged in WWII, but not to China. I can certainly understand their anger about the whole thing, having been to Nanjing, the museum there and knowing a lot folks from that city. And Japan has not done much to atone for their crimes against China. But who does the hate hurt in the end? Japanese people couldn't care less what Chinese think of them. They have a rich, vibrant democracy and built it in a land with almost no arable land and no reseources. While much of China is still living in the dark ages. It's sad and it will never change.

scottmandue 12-09-2006 10:27 AM

I understand that some of our Asian and Arab brothers and sisters have hatred inbred into their culture as a result of thousands of years of wars and oppression.

However isn't it interesting that they are all obviously of the same gene pool? Take the Jews and the Muslims, if you put a thousand of each in a room naked you wouldn't be able to tell them apart. Same with Japanese and Chinese, oh I know there is a stereotype "look" for each of those nationalities but if you meet enough of them you will find there are many that you can't identify their country of origin by just looking at them.

Then look at me sitting here at work with two other technicians who are intelligent, hard working, and I would consider my friends... and until I started writing this I didn't even think of the fact that one is a black woman and the other a native American.

island911 12-09-2006 10:27 AM

AND THEN, there's the whole blond vs brunette fiasco . .. .and don't even get me started about those damn redheads. :mad:

island911 12-09-2006 10:29 AM

Why is it okay to say redhead but not towel head? . . what if the towel is red?

island911 12-09-2006 10:31 AM

How are Chinese and Japanese diferent races . .. is it the length of ther names?

island911 12-09-2006 10:33 AM

If a Black Brit comes to America, should he be refered to as an "Afrikan Amerikan"?

scottmandue 12-09-2006 10:45 AM

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Originally posted by island911
If a Black Brit comes to America, should he be refered to as an "Afrikan Amerikan"?
Wouldn't that be African Englishman?

Rick Lee 12-09-2006 10:48 AM

Hyphenated Americanism really chaps my a$s.

m21sniper 12-09-2006 10:48 AM

Re: Are you a racist?
 
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Originally posted by Por_sha911
There are African Americans, Mexican Americans, Asian Americans, Arab Americans, Native Americans, etc. And then there are just Americans.

Terms like "White boy," "Cracker," "Honky," "Whitey," "Caveman"... are O.K. But if someone uses Nigger, Towel-head, Sand-nigger, Camel Jockey, Beaner, Gook, or Chink ... they're a racist.

There is the United Negro College Fund, Martin Luther King Day, Black History Month, Cesar Chavez Day, NAACP, and BET.

If some had WET (White Entertainment Television) ... they're racists. If someone started White Pride Day.. they would be called racists. If they had White History Month .. they'd be racists. If they had any organization for only whites to "advance" their lives ... they'd be racists.

We have a Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, a Black Chamber of Commerce, and then we just have the plain Chamber of Commerce. Wonder who pays for that?

If they had a college fund that only gave white students scholarships... You know they'd be racists. There are over 60 openly proclaimed Black Colleges in the US , yet if there were "White colleges" .. THAT would be a racist college.

In the Million Man March, men believed that they were marching for their race and rights. If white men marched for their race and rights (Sadly some do), they'd be racists.

It is O.K. to be proud to be black, brown, yellow and red, and not be afraid to announce it. But if someone announced their white pride ... they'd be racists.

I don't get it. Why is it that only whites can be racists?

Racist! :D

m21sniper 12-09-2006 10:50 AM

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Originally posted by Rikao4
Static, with a good tan..I have been confused as someone from the ME,
when I came to this place 'Combat ' was a popular show..I got hassled because 'your a Nazi' I looked like them 'white' when my future father in-law saw a pic..'he's a mexican'
she.. no he's german..inlaws 'thats even worse'
my dogs like me, so I can't be all that bad.
Rika

Hitler's dog liked him too. ;)

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Originally posted by cashflyer
[B]I hate all people, regardless of skin color or heritage.
"I do not look down on niggas, spics, wops or greasers. Here you are all equally worthless."
~Gunnery Sgt Hartman, FMJ


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