Did it not occur to anyone in the video to: 1) call 911 and 2) drive away and get the flock out of there? Or is there some reason they couldn't that isn't obvious from the video?

Why, cause you resemble the remark? :D

Please, nobody votes for that kind of nonsense. I think what we are seeing is some form of detachment from these areas for the majority of people that do vote, that do make the decisions. Nobody can possibly want to live like that. It is clear that the good, honest people in those areas have either given up, are not heard, or a little of both. Or maybe just left, the ones that can, anyway. Everyone else just stays away, and probably has no real idea of what it has come to. As a result, they are not prepared to implement the harsh measures need to win these streets back. As many have already pointed out, any attempt to defend one's self would likely result in death or injury, and more legal trouble than the perps. How sad it has come to that.

No problem as I voted for Brown. His remark was just the same old loser mentality remark, blame the liberals for everything. How childish. But that is typical, e.g see yours.



excellent summary, Jeff.

That would happen in virtually every American city if social order were to break down for even a few hours. Truly it is a jungle out here.

Yes, well, we cannot all be superior leftist-elitist intellectuals.

Thank god. :)

LOL....

So why would you vote for a DA who had the murder rate double on his watch(as mayor)? You a fan or murder, or are you just stupid?

Jeff, you made some really good points. Detroit has the many of the same issue as Oakland, they don't know whats good for them when they see it. Time and time again corruption, lies, and pure ignorance keep these cities from dealing with the problems in their streets.

DA is only for the first shot, then SA afterwards. That's really the best way to go.

If an earthquake hit Northern California, with most of its force concentrated in Oakland, what makes anyone think the result wouldn't be the same as New Orleans after Katrina?

Think about it. Is it better to just let cities like Oakland perish after a large disaster?

kind of reminds me of a george romero zombie flick.

I don't know what the answer is, but it is kind of interesting.

NYC was one of the biggest cesspools, and it was "cleaned up" incredibly during Guliani's. Why was that?

Jerry Brown, I don't think anyone would ever expect that crime would go down in a city where he is elected mayor, or that the city would be cleaned up in any significant way. No one expects it to happen under him, and it isn't going to happen.

What's the explanation for that?

Am I the only one that GOT that!

Funny!

Well, I would think because NY is a destination. People want to go there. It's a business hub as well. Mostly, it's a larger national embarrassment of such an important city is wrought with chaos and lawlessness.

Detroit is very sad mostly because of its American industrial revolution roots.

Oakland only has meaning in Dirty Harry movies. :rolleyes:

And old-skool funk:

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A "Bootsy Approved City."
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In 1983, Giuliani was appointed U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York. It was in this position that he first gained national prominence by prosecuting numerous high-profile cases, including the successful prosecutions of Wall Street figures Ivan Boesky and Michael Milken for insider trading. He also spearheaded the effort to jail drug dealers, combat organized crime, break the web of corruption in government, and prosecute white-collar criminals.

In the Mafia Commission Trial (February 25, 1985–November 19, 1986), Giuliani indicted eleven organized crime figures, including the heads of New York's so-called "Five Families,"

It was while he was Associate Attorney General in the Reagan Administration, not mayor.


Maybe you are mixing apples and oranges? Maybe you want to make the same stupid innuendo? Just guessing.

Steve: Maybe you just have no reasonable defense for voting for brown, so instead of answering the questions posed, you are merely devolving into petty insult slinging to avoid feeling like a moron for voting for him to begin with.

Maybe.... :)

Here's a pic of crime statistics. He helped a little but overall I suggest the mayor of Newark did a better job?http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1166556432.jpg


Sharpe James (born February 20, 1936 in Jacksonville, Florida) is an American Democratic Party politician , who became the second African American Mayor of Newark, New Jersey. He was first elected Mayor of Newark on May 13, 1986, and was sworn into office on July 1 of that year. He was the first Newark mayor to run unopposed when he sought re-election in 1990 and handily won re-election in 1994 and 1998. Sharpe James became Newark's longest-serving mayor when he was re-elected for an unprecedented fifth term in 2002, a year after being named Mayor of the Year by the New Jersey Conference of Mayors.

sniper you'll have to show me a question

just following your lead hoo rah


You are the only one slinging insults around at people. I called the remark stupid.

I can't seem to remember how CA. was doing while Brown was Governor. I was too busy reading headlines about he hanging out with Linda Ronstadt...
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