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sammyg2 12-19-2006 10:37 AM

If I were in that situation there is absolutely no doubt in my mind what I would do. Then i would back up and do it again just to make sure.
This is what I would be doing the next morning:
Cleaning punk-a$$ lowlife guts off my grill and bumpers and loading all my guns in anticipation of the bleeding heart liberals and their scumbag paracitic lawyers showing up on my door step.

Racerbvd 12-19-2006 10:38 AM

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Originally posted by Jeff Higgins
Please, nobody votes for that kind of nonsense. I think what we are seeing is some form of detachment from these areas for the majority of people that do vote, that do make the decisions. Nobody can possibly want to live like that. It is clear that the good, honest people in those areas have either given up, are not heard, or a little of both. Or maybe just left, the ones that can, anyway. Everyone else just stays away, and probably has no real idea of what it has come to. As a result, they are not prepared to implement the harsh measures need to win these streets back. As many have already pointed out, any attempt to defend one's self would likely result in death or injury, and more legal trouble than the perps. How sad it has come to that.
Well, remember who DC reelected mayor, and New Orleans, some people do vote for it.

dd74 12-19-2006 10:40 AM

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Originally posted by sammyg2
If I were in that situation there is absolutely no doubt in my mind what I would do. Then i would back up and do it again just to make sure.
This is what I would be doing the next morning:
Cleaning punk-a$$ lowlife guts off my grill and bumpers and loading all my guns in anticipation of the bleeding heart liberals and their scumbag paracitic lawyers showing up on my door step.

LOL! They'd haul you out of your car and cut your white ass open like a sturgeon. Quit fooling yourself. Have you ever been in the middle of a riot? :rolleyes:

stevepaa 12-19-2006 10:45 AM

Oakland has been is dire straights for many years, the poor areas have been that way for years. The action in this vid is deplorabe but you would need 50 police to quell this and arrest the perps. There just is not enough money in the city to support that and they certainly could not react in 8 minutes with 50 police in riot gear.


crime rate fluctuates per year


City-data.com crime index (higher means more crime, U.S. average = 327.2)

Oakland
1999 709.9 2000 608.1 2001 657.9 2002 715.9 2003 694.3 2004 665.9


NY

1999 398.4 2000 378.6 2002 321.6 2003 301.6 2004 284.6

sammyg2 12-19-2006 10:47 AM

DD, You really don't have a clue, do you?
I have a gas pedal. I push it hard, I hit ****, I go. If necessary I hit reverse real hard. If another car is in my way I take it with me or I move it out of the way.
If I ever decide to use my truck as a weapon I can guaranty I would use it efficiently.
There is no way anyone is getting any closer to my truck than the bumper or under my tires.
I could take out everyone of those low-lifes in less than a minute. It just requires someone with a spine to make the decision to be a victor and not a victim.
You be what you want and then look for sympathy, but I will not sit by and allow that kind of crap to happen to me. Ever.

lendaddy 12-19-2006 10:49 AM

I wonder how long until we see vigilante groups? I don't mean "Guardian Angels", I mean true death squads.

Not advocating them, but I won't be surprised when/if they arise either.

dd74 12-19-2006 10:55 AM

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Originally posted by sammyg2
DD, You really don't have a clue, do you?
I have a gas pedal. I push it hard, I hit ****, I go. If necessary I hit reverse real hard. If another car is in my way I take it with me or I move it out of the way.
If I ever decide to use my truck as a weapon I can guaranty I would use it efficiently.
There is no way anyone is getting any closer to my truck than the bumper or under my tires.
I could take out everyone of those low-lifes in less than a minute. It just requires someone with a spine to make the decision to be a victor and not a victim.
You be what you want and then look for sympathy, but I will not sit by and allow that kind of crap to happen to me. Ever.

Blah! Blah! Blah! I wouldn't give you two days ALIVE even if you ever tried and got away with something like that. You don't think these people don't have the capacity to hunt you down, kill you in your own bed and set your house on fire with you in it? They might be social outcasts, but that doesn't preclude them from reading a license plate #, then tracking you down with their gangbanger buddies in tow - if you're lucky to get away.

But go ahead - run 'em over. I've seen a couple Pelicans state a desire for your turbo, so at least someone will benefit from your fool actions.

m21sniper 12-19-2006 10:55 AM

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Originally posted by dd74
LOL! They'd haul you out of your car and cut your white ass open like a sturgeon. Quit fooling yourself. Have you ever been in the middle of a riot? :rolleyes:
So what are you advocating as a proper response?

Sitting there like a sheep and hoping they don't kill you?

Everyone dies, few of us are lucky enough to determine how. Sounds to me like if SammyG2 is ever presented the choice, he will do it on his feet(or rather on his ass with his foot floored), fighting like a man.

A most admirable trait IMO.

the 12-19-2006 10:56 AM

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Originally posted by stevepaa


Maybe you are mixing apples and oranges? Maybe you want to make the same stupid innuendo? Just guessing.

Why do you have so much anger? Why not just try to have a discussion without the need to result to personal insults? Can you do that? I've never insulted you.

dd74 12-19-2006 10:57 AM

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Originally posted by sammyg2

You be what you want and then look for sympathy, but I will not sit by and allow that kind of crap to happen to me. Ever.

Hmmm...at least with same-level grammar skills as they, you might at least might be able to plead with them.

:rolleyes:

m21sniper 12-19-2006 10:57 AM

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Originally posted by sammyg2
DD, You really don't have a clue, do you?
I have a gas pedal. I push it hard, I hit ****, I go. If necessary I hit reverse real hard. If another car is in my way I take it with me or I move it out of the way.
If I ever decide to use my truck as a weapon I can guaranty I would use it efficiently.
There is no way anyone is getting any closer to my truck than the bumper or under my tires.
I could take out everyone of those low-lifes in less than a minute. It just requires someone with a spine to make the decision to be a victor and not a victim.
You be what you want and then look for sympathy, but I will not sit by and allow that kind of crap to happen to me. Ever.

Just to clue you in on a little bit of fact Sammy, if you hit anything too hard your inertia switch will trip and the car will stall(and not re-start).

dd74 12-19-2006 10:59 AM

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Originally posted by lendaddy
I wonder how long until we see vigilante groups? I don't mean "Guardian Angels", I mean true death squads.

Not advocating them, but I won't be surprised when/if they arise either.

They're on the Arizona/Mexico border right now, doing who-knows-what to illegals.

m21sniper 12-19-2006 11:01 AM

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Originally posted by dd74
Blah! Blah! Blah! I wouldn't give you two days ALIVE even if you ever tried and got away with something like that. You don't think these people don't have the capacity to hunt you down, kill you in your own bed and set your house on fire with you in it? They might be social outcasts, but that doesn't preclude them from reading a license plate #, then tracking you down with their gangbanger buddies in tow - if you're lucky to get away.

But go ahead - run 'em over. I've seen a couple Pelicans state a desire for your turbo, so at least someone will benefit from your fool actions.

How long have you been running scared bro?

This is the same mentality that says you can't fight a gang or the mafia. It's defeatist silliness. You merely have to go on the offensive and kill them before they kill you(then hope you don't get caught by the cops, who have a real problem with people doing the work they can't be troubled to do themselves).

"I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees."
~Emiliano Zapata


Anyone here ever read "Without Remorse", by Tom clancy(before he sucked, lol)? ;)

lendaddy 12-19-2006 11:01 AM

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Originally posted by dd74
They're on the Arizona/Mexico border right now, doing who-knows-what to illegals.
I've heard no reports of shootings or otherwise with those, have you?

stevepaa 12-19-2006 11:06 AM

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Originally posted by the
Why do you have so much anger? Why not just try to have a discussion without the need to result to personal insults? Can you do that? I've never insulted you.

well, then I apologize for any personal insult you received.


So what was the point you were trying to make?

dd74 12-19-2006 11:08 AM

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Originally posted by m21sniper
So what are you advocating as a proper response?

Sitting there like a sheep and hoping they don't kill you?

Everyone dies, few of us are lucky enough to determine how. Sounds to me like if SammyG2 is ever presented the choice, he will do it on his feet(or rather on his ass with his foot floored), fighting like a man.

A most admirable trait IMO.

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Originally posted by m21sniper
Just to clue you in on a little bit of fact Sammy, if you hit anything too hard your inertia switch will trip and the car will stall(and not re-start).
So you answered your own question, didn't you? You'd be dead if you even attempted to run that mob over because your car would stall.

And unless you keep a brace of assault rifles, grenade launchers or whatever in your vehicle, and can get these out in time to shoot, you'd be dead.

Please! Dispense with the vitriol of "if it were me." If the U.S. military retreats (wisely) from an Iraqi mob in Baghdad, what makes you think you can hold them off in Oakland?

Pass the popcorn. Such comments read like cinema.

dd74 12-19-2006 11:10 AM

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Originally posted by lendaddy
I've heard no reports of shootings or otherwise with those, have you?
Yep. Shootings, torture, detainment. Depends on who you believe, however, if any of that has actually occurred.

lendaddy 12-19-2006 11:11 AM

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Originally posted by dd74
Yep. Shootings, torture, detainment. Depends on who you believe, however, if any of that has actually occurred.
I had not heard that.

the 12-19-2006 11:16 AM

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Originally posted by stevepaa


So what was the point you were trying to make?

None. I only asked some questions.

dd74 12-19-2006 11:16 AM

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Originally posted by m21sniper
How long have you been running scared bro?

This is the same mentality that says you can't fight a gang or the mafia. It's defeatist silliness. You merely have to go on the offensive and kill them before they kill you(then hope you don't get caught by the cops, who have a real problem with people doing the work they can't be troubled to do themselves).

"I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees."
~Emiliano Zapata


Anyone here ever read "Without Remorse", by Tom clancy(before he sucked, lol)? ;)

Nice quotes. I'd like to see if you have the "gut" to live a life like Zapata, instead of talk it up.

Oh, and scared. Only idiots aren't scared, big man.


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