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hpv 02-06-2007 11:09 PM

Dave,
That Rifleman story triggerd my memory No Puns intended. In Thousand Oaks ,I used to use Rancho Road South to test suspension
adjustments, Same problem there was one guy who at all times of day
was there to hurl Rocks from his hill on top of cars. Later I'm on Eddy Merkx road bike and more rocks. Jesus Christ I thought no motor what is
the deal ? Target Practice. HPV

hpv 02-06-2007 11:15 PM

Jeremy,
Is that you behind the RSR on Muholland ?
HPV
Thousand Oaks,Ca

Howard Agency 02-07-2007 12:11 AM

Just had a serious Epiphany. 45 years ago I was driving a yellow Porsche on Mulholland, just like I did last Sunday. Damn.....

Jeremy Cottrell 02-07-2007 07:04 AM

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Originally posted by RSBob
Jeremy - what a great read. Thanks for posting!
I'm glad you guys COULD read it. Some of it is hard to make out. I will get a good scan on it. The paper is starting to look it's age so it needs to be preserved pretty quickly. I can't believe I still have it after 30 years!

Henry that is John Hall standing behind his 911L, that was one of the fastest cars on the hill. Except maybe for that beige 510. :)

Henry, I'm surprised you don't know the car, he was up there when you were. I am even more surprised that you haven't figured out who I am by now!! Jeez I've been here at TRE every day for 23 years! You talk to me every time you call here!!

Jeremy Cottrell 02-07-2007 07:09 AM

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Originally posted by 47Hammer
Here Brad Z and his bug. Great stuff, my wife is after me to get away from the scanner..... Just one more Honey...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1170825179.jpg


That is a typical Brad Z. pose. I can tell you he has gained a couple pounds since then :D Gee, I think my brother may have owned that Bug too at some point.

47Hammer 02-07-2007 07:46 AM

Here's a shot of my first Camaro, a '67 sitting on the ground with a small block and drum brakes all around. This car got beat up after a few months..... it was a handful, wheelhop and understeer into the corner and wheelhop out of the corner.


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1170866393.jpg

TRE Cup 02-07-2007 07:58 AM

Mark- i think it may have been called College Auto Parts? It wasn't that far north of Valley College
The trap is a little rusty around that section

Jeff Hail 02-07-2007 08:21 AM

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Originally posted by TRE Cup
Mark- i think it may have been called College Auto Parts? It wasn't that far north of Valley College
The trap is a little rusty around that section

Still sharp as a tack Dave. I forgot about that one, was adjacent to Alpha Beta. I recall a pet store that had guinea pigs & rabbits in the windows next to the auto parts.

LateBrakeU2 02-07-2007 10:06 AM

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Originally posted by TRE Cup
Mark- i think it may have been called College Auto Parts? It wasn't that far north of Valley College
The trap is a little rusty around that section


I knew you would purge that from the fog! Since this thread was hijacked quite some time ago and has morphed into something quite unique, i'll try to answer a few questions pertaining to the original post that got this wonderful party started.Chris still has the car,it sits on stands in his garage next to his Testa Rossa.I don't know when the last he drove it was,but it has the same blue streaks that were on it when that article was released in 78.I would not be the slightest bit surprized if at the end of his mortal coil,it became his dirtbox so he could lap it in the afterlife.

Speaking of that other whale of a tail car in that NewWest article,if I remember correctly David Brien bought that from a lady in pasadena,a bone stock 68 911L.He had Chirs fit a late model front clip and steel flairs and it became an homage the Kings ride.That thing had more cheese than the state of Wisconson!.Look at the pics from the artlicle,that place out on Sherman way(help me out here,Randy's?) widened a set of steel wheels for Dave and combined with the venerable econo racer caldwell caps made for an unimaginable amount of unsprung corner weight.The rotating mass probably took two seconds off the cars 0-60 times,as well as accelerate fissures of cracking fender dough.I think John traded Dave his Elan for it straight across.On a side note to your earlier post Cort and Dave are very good friends to this day.

I forwarded this to Chris and John,hopefully they'll chime in.Also i'm leaving for Sears Point tommorrow for the first WERC endurance race of the year, co drivIng an E36 with John N. I'll go harass Cortez and tell him to get on this deal for some of his memories,the guy is uncanny!. I was at the 25 hr in Dec and his recall of the Willow springs breach from 1969 was so detailed you would have thought it happened yesterday.He could really add some great stuff so let me work on that..

SSB 02-07-2007 02:13 PM

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Originally posted by Jeff Hail
Fastbacker


Then there were some humurous incidents. A friend of mine Leo Firpo had this bright orange Honda 600 car. He worked at All Auto Parts and had access to all sorts or junk. He put a Honda 1000 cc motorcyle engine in this shoe car. It had four pipes coming out the grill. The motorcycle engine was mated to the existing car transmission with a chain like a go-cart. It had the five speed motorcycle trans and the four speed car trans. (9 speeds altogether). The floor was cut out to clear the CV joints (Flintstones). Anyway we were just cruising through Carls and the right rear wheel fell off just before Carls drop off. He stopped just in time. Got out put the wheel back on after stealing a lugnut from each wheel corner. I never ever got in that car again.


Jeff

I remember one night some guy with a brand new yellow Honda "Z" car came up and stopped at the pits. Once he got to talking he flat stated "I can go flat out through Carls".

We said (in unison) "Oh no you can't"

He said "Oh yes I can"

We said "Oh no you can't"

And with that he jumped in his car.

Of course so did we and here we all went following him into Carls and where he flew right off the corner. Pretty early into the corner I might add.

So there we were standing there looking down into the abyss when the Cops came by asking what was going on?

Just as the story was related to the cop, the poor hapless "Z" car driver climbed up to say hello to the nice policeman.

We said "I guess you can go flat out through Carls after all"

Jeff Hail 02-07-2007 03:56 PM

One night at the Pit/ Grandstands (before the fence and the berm) we were watching a couple of cars racing east.
Both entered Carl's fast tail to nose.

At Carl's after you make the right cut there is a blind spot (below the KYSR Radio tower) when looking from Grandstands and you cannot follow the cars through visually until they hit the midsection before Carl's Jr. We heard a crash and only one car exited.

We heard a guy in the crowd say "look someone down there is in the bush's with flashlights". Someone else in the
crowd said "Nope thats Carl and those are his headlamps"

TRE Cup 02-07-2007 04:24 PM

lets see if taking a picture of pictures turn out okay here:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1170897829.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1170897857.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1170897879.jpg

Jeremy Cottrell 02-07-2007 04:28 PM

That does it Dave. Now I MUST get my scanner working.

lfot 02-07-2007 04:31 PM

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Originally posted by Jeremy Cottrell
That does it Dave. Now I MUST get my scanner working.

START SCANNING DAVE'S PHOTO ALBUMS IMMEDIATELY!

TRE Cup 02-07-2007 04:34 PM

cool- it kinda worked !
the fiat 850 spider was Paul Berg's . He drove it with headlamps and a bolted on wiper (no actual motor to turn it) on a westlake run one night. He was sitting with a few of the CRE crew by the side of the road when a sheriff pulled up and asked for all the usual info- Paul was either going to get a ticket or hauled off to jail- He has quite a mouth on him. Unbelievably, the sheriff comes back and tears up the ticket , wishing him happy birthday !

The Challenger T/A was Jeff's ride- Very cool car.

The RX 3 belonged to Glenn Marquardt and as you can see , became a real race car (ok- within budgetary confines- that is a modified 73 RSR front spoiler bumper from Dennis Aase on the car) that was the subject of a joint CRE Daytona 24 hour effort< that in itself could be a movie !

The 510 was Ron Cortez' race car- not the $300 bag full of hockey pucks .

For Porsche content: The orange RSR is the same one that resides in Sacto. Was at R gruppe Santa Rosa last year.

The white 911R was Jeff Mannix' and part of what i wrote about earlier on this thread

The slalom shots of CRE at Santa Barbara City College. Judy in the Z, Pat P. in the 302, Glenn in the RX 3, John Norris in the Yellow Capri, Craig Cutler in one of the grey Capri, forgot the other grey capri driver

My first mini and the Tempest (pre Porsche days!)

TRE Cup 02-07-2007 04:46 PM

here is a group shot of us, after an "interview" from the Dec 25, 1973 Willow Springs CRE Day... Ahem....




http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1170899182.jpg

SSB 02-07-2007 05:26 PM

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Originally posted by TRE Cup

The RX 3 belonged to Glenn Marquardt and as you can see , became a real race car (ok- within budgetary confines- that is a modified 73 RSR front spoiler bumper from Dennis Aase on the car) that was the subject of a joint CRE Daytona 24 hour effort< that in itself could be a movie !


Ya know, that Daytona 24 hour race is today the most talked about race in it's history. Not because CRE was there with Glen's Savava (RX3) that was a week prior a Mulholland car that got thrown into the back of an old UPS truck which raced accross country in hot pursuit of Big'n's Motorhome (of which the backend nearly broke off becouse there were too many people sleeping in the back) and the fact that it was the very first Rotor Motor RX3 to race in IMSA (they didn't know how loud it turned out to be and it raced without mufflers much to the pain of everybody in southern Florida), oh no. That's not why it was so famous.

That was the year of the "fuel comtamination" that actually stopped the race after some 18n hour. What is less known is that while the CRE effort was many laps behind because apparently there was allot more side loading than ever experienced on Mulholland causing the sway bar links and mounts to collaps, the Rotor motor didn't care about bad fuel at all and actually made up about 50 miles before they stopped the race and went back a few laps and called it done.

So much for history, the "race" between the UPS truck and the motorhome back home was just as fun.

grudk 02-07-2007 05:50 PM

Dave if you get a polarized filter for your lens, you'll kill that glare seen when you take a pic of glossy photos (sorry for the off-topic). Great pics!

Jeremy Cottrell 02-07-2007 10:03 PM

So John's car had a stock non-S 2 Liter?

And Chris had a twin plug high butterfly 2.5 or 2.8??

TRE Cup 02-08-2007 09:01 AM

Though I wasn't part of the crew to go to Daytona that year, stories of the "polar bear express" (no heat in the decomissioned ups truck in freezing weather on the way x country) and other tales abound

One was the fact that the team could only afford widened steel "mag" wheels and with the downforce of the banking, the heavy rim and soft spring combo allowed the chassis to sag onto the flares. this in turn caused tire problems for the already cash strapped team.

Then there was the constant rewelding of the ear splitting exhaust with coat hangers in the pits. Rotaries have some incredible exhaust frequency vibrations that will break conventionally built systems


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