Originally Posted by dmull (Post 4310184)

hi chris,
i understand what you are saying regarding the tight turns on mull, but can argue that turbo charged cars can do quite well up there if driven well. back in the late 80's i had a 944 turbo for a few years that was very well set up for that road, and never lost a race to anybody, including many cops that tried, if you were to even call that a race (as we all know, "cops" are what we refer to as anything but police in cars chasing you with sirens on and roadblocks set up. those are policemen/women, not "cops", which is an intirely different thing altogether,you understand).
i digress...in any case, driving a turbo car on a twisty road is certainly not as easy as mashing a torquey (spelling??) naturally aspirated engine with gobs of low end grunt, but it not very hard either....just keep in boost! makes for a thrilling ride. my car had andial cams, autothority stage 2 chips and a euro by pass that liked to shoot flames and light up that dark road...fun stuff. i miss that car...also had weltmeister sway bars, konis or bilsteins, i forget and so on for suspension, as well as roll bar with camera mount . i shot some good "mully" runs with and some 17X81/2 and 10'w rear Azev 5 spoke deep dish rims.
so, in conclusion, as i was lost there in old highschool football stories, turbo cars are good on mully. the end.

Originally Posted by mickster8888 (Post 4309277)

Mr.Banning, thank you very much for your response as it indeed answers my questions. there's certainly noone more qualified to comment on the subject. it makes sense that a normally aspirated car would be the ticket in the twisties. i've been going back in this thread and find it very interesting. every night i read alittle more. seen king of the mountain, did they approach you personally about the goings on up there or did they base it of the magazine article? what was the make of the speedster kit? looks like it had pretty large wheels and tires under the flares. does anyone have any info on the car? i admire the dedication of all the people you hang out with who drive mulholland. i'll keep an eye on this thread for sure. mickster

Originally Posted by tchanson (Post 4310681)

Tim

Originally Posted by Jeff Hail (Post 4311699)

Actually VVT gets the credit.
He has been distributing Auto 101 material for the virtual learning class.
Informative and enjoyable although I miss the laughter of the other kids
in my classroom (virtual).

That was a joke Chris!

Originally Posted by Banning (Post 4312138)

It's no Joke! Ken Block can drive.

Originally Posted by Rockyrat (Post 4313664)

I just found this thread last night and I'm only on page 70 but I started to remember some of the times I spent up there so I thought I'd share a couple of stories about experiences I had with Gary. The following two stories happened in the very late 70’s or early 80’s. It was a long time ago, and my memory for dates isn’t worth a damn.

I'm probably one of the few people in the world that has ever raced him. Yes, he did race up there. However, at this point I'm sure anyone who really knows him thinks I'm lying. I remember one late night in the middle of the week where there was probably only 5 or 6 cars at Grandstands. Out of nowhere, Gary challenged us all to a race. Since we all knew him for several years, we were dumbfounded at his suggestion. He then said for us to meet him heading East, in the sweeper, just past Bowmont. We did as he asked, and as we sat there he came up to us and explained how this race was to be run. Turn your car off and coast. The first one to Laurel Pass wins. Only three of us even made it all the way to the end. So, if you know Gary, you know that’s how he would want to race, and I'll be damned if he didn't win too.



Another time it was a chilly evening and there wasn't too many people in Grandstands. A single LAPD car pulls in the lot and says on his loudspeaker for everyone to leave. Well, since I was sitting in his car, and mine was locked up on the other side of the lot, we just sat there as everyone left and they shined the spotlight on my car. They then got back on the loudspeaker and said for us to leave too, so we did. We headed East out of the lot and were followed by the patrol car all the way to Skyline. We made the right and on came the red lights. Gary pulled right over, and rolled down the window. A rather young looking officer approached the car, and asked him for his drivers license and registration. Gary handed him both items, and then the officer asked me for my drivers license. So, I handed it to him and he then asked us where we were going. Gary replied that he was taking me back to my house. The officer took a look at my license and asked where the hell Skyline Drive is. Gary very matter of factly replied “your standing on it”. At this point the officer told us to wait there. A couple of minutes later Officer Jackson appeared at Gary’s door, handed us back our ID’s, and told us to be on our way. It was at this point that Gary asked officer Jackson if it would be OK if we went back and got my car. Officer Jackson looked confused and asked Gary where it was. He told the officer that it was parked at Grandstands but he told us to leave before I could get out of his car and go back to mine. Well, officer Jackson knew Gary well enough to know that he was once again yanking his chain. He didn’t say a word and left. We headed back to Grandstands and waited for everyone to return. All in all, another victory for Gary.