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flatspot 11-27-2008 11:15 AM

Great turkey day run today,
Thanks Derek for organizing. For story and pic's chek out the thread Derek started a page
back.
Happy thanksgiving everyone, Kiley

lfot 11-27-2008 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flatspot (Post 4328034)
Great turkey day run today,
Thanks Derek for organizing. For story and pic's chek out the thread Derek started a page
back.
Happy thanksgiving everyone, Kiley

Kiley's near disaster
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1227831880.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1227831909.jpg

Banning 11-28-2008 08:28 AM

Seat belts
 
After researching many types and manufacturers of seat belts, it seems a good choice is Crow Racing Restraints. Good quality at a fair price with many options.

Stock seatbelts won't mount up anymore due to the rollcage being in the way.

These instructions are for replacing (or installing) seat belts in your car. Interesting info at the bottom.
A and B are the lap belt ends, and C is the shoulder harness end.

Step # 1:
Remove existing seat belt and hardware.

Step # 2:
Wrap the lap belt portion around the front of the seat and bring the (A) and (B) ends to the back of the seat. Run the (C) End over the top of the seat to the back of the seat. If there is a headrest, run it between the 2 headrest posts.

(This seat belt will not work on seats that have a headrest that is continuous with the seat...all one piece. You must either be able to run the (C) End through the center or have no headrest at all.) If you have a continuous headrest as just mentioned!

Step # 3:
Now connect the (A) End to the existing anchor point using your original hex bolt or a new one. Then do the same with the (B) End. (The hex bolt should be firmly tightened)

Important: If your vehicle does not have pre-existing anchor points (threaded holes) for the (A) and (B) Ends, such as vehicles older than 1962, then you must create them as is described for the (C) End in the next step below (Step # 4). If you are going to create your own anchorage points for the (A) and (B) Ends, then you should space them between 15-21 inches apart. See Figure 2. You will also need to purchase an optional hardware kit which includes 3 each of: 7/16" fine thread grade 5 hex bolts, nuts and lock washers (or 3 lock nuts), and three 3" fender washers.


Step # 4:
Next you must create an anchor point for the (C) End to connect to. Using a 1/2 inch drill bit, drill a hole half way between the anchorage points for the (A) and (B) Ends making sure that you don't drill into anything of importance that is below the floor board (avoid damaging exhaust system, brake or fuel lines). Once your hole is drilled, run you hex bolt through the hole in the (C) End and then through the hole that you just drilled. Using a second person under the car, slip the end of the hex bolt through the 3" fender washer and then screw on the lock nut. (The lock nut should be firmly tightened on the hex bolt)

An alternative to using the 3" fender washer and lock nut is to use a Mounting Plate which has a threaded hole and does not require a lock nut. If you like, you can permanently attach the mounting plate to the underside of the floor board.

Note: Some vehicles have an eye bolt mounted behind the back of the seat on the floor. These can be used instead of drilling a hole into the floor board, but you will need to purchase Snap Ends to add to the (C) End of the harness.

Step # 5:
Now just use the length adjusters to snug up your new 4 point seat belt!


Safety Information:

Mounting
1. Mounting hardware to the floor should always have metal-to-metal contact. You should avoid carpet, plastic or any other material between the fastener components and the floor which could tend to loosen over time.
2. All bolts used through NON-threaded holes must have either a lock-nut, lock washer or apply a thread locking compound for security.
3. Bolts used for mounting seatbelts should be a minimum size 7/16" diameter, Grade 5 product.
4. Anchor points for belts must meet the strength load requirements of FMVSS 210. When replacing belts, always use the anchorages provided by the vehicle, or seat manufacturer when available.
5. Do not connect both ends of this belt to the same, single mounting point.

PROPER ADJUSTMENT:
The webbing (strap) should be threaded through the middle anchor fitting. Adjust the length of the straps to fit the size range of various occupants. Leave at least 1" loose beyond the anchor slot.

Seat Belt Use
1. Always wear your seat belt when the vehicle is in operation.
2. Adjust and wear lap portion of the belt low and snug across your hips.
3. Each belt is intended to restrain only one person at a time. Do not put two people under one belt.
4. Never attempt to restrain a child in your lap using the restraint around both you and the child. The child could be severely injured or even killed in the event of a collision.
5. Seat Belts are matched sets. Do not mix or use this belt or parts of this belt with other types of seat belts.

Use and Maintenance Instructions
WARNING:
FAILURE TO PROPERLY INSTALL, USE, PERIODICALLY INSPECT AND MAINTAIN THIS SEAT BELT COULD LEAD TO SERIOUS INJURY OR DEATH! PLEASE FOLLOW ALL OF THE IMPORTANT INFORMATION BELOW:
Maintenance
1. Inspect belt regularly. If the assembly does not work properly or you find cuts, frayed or worn webbing the belt must be replaced.
2. More frequent inspections may be necessary if the belt is subjected to harsh treatment or extreme conditions.
3. Whenever a vehicle is involved in a collision you must replace every part of the seat belt system; both sides of the belt including the mounting hardware!
4. Clean with mild soap and water. Do not bleach or re-dye as it will tend to severely weaken the webbing.

Universal Installation Information:
If the vehicle is equipped with seat belt anchorages, these should be used in lieu of other methods.

CAUTION: DEATH OR SERIOUS INJURY COULD RESULT FROM NOT PROPERLY THREADING THE WEBBING THROUGH THE ADJUSTABLE END. MAINTAIN A MINIMUM OF ONE INCH WEBBING BEYOND THE ANCHOR. (SEE FIG. 3)
CAUTION: IF THE FIXED END OF A SEATBELT IS TOO LONG TO ALLOW A SNUG FIT ON A SMALL OCCUPANT, DO NOT USE THE BELT! YOU MUST SHORTEN THE BELT THROUGH THE ADJUSTABLE ANCHOR ENDS TO ALLOW A PROPER FIT.

flatspot 11-28-2008 05:07 PM

Chris,
Have you figured out how your going to mount the passenger side belts yet?
Kiley

Banning 11-29-2008 08:59 AM

Seat belt attatchments
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by flatspot (Post 4329408)
Chris,
Have you figured out how your going to mount the passenger side belts yet?
Kiley

I'm getting to it.
This view shows how the horizontal bar of the rollcage is located only behind the driver's seat.
Normally, the shoulder harness part of the racing seat belts are attatched to a high point like the horizontal bar.
This is done to minimize the effect of compression on the spine which may happen when the fastening point for the shoulder harness is too low behind the seat.

The braided stainless steel lines located on the floor behind the passenger seat carry oil to the front oil tank, oil filter and oil cooler.
And yes, those are old grey CoCo/sisal mats on the floor. Still like new.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1227981412.jpg



The black leather Recaro Sport Seats (circa 1973) that have long been in the car, now show the age cracks of 30 years. Some of those were racing years, but many years were spent in silence, waiting for re-birth.

The original Scheel seats were too small to accomodate some of my friends so that is why the Recaros were installed. The Scheel seats are so narrow that you have to be less than 190 pounds to fit into them. I guess all Europeans are skinny.


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1227981435.jpg


I went on a hunt to find the Carrera's original seats.
Up high in the attic, behind lots of boxes, I found the seats that I bought for the Carrera late in 1975. They bear the dust of many years just like the cracks in the Recaros.
They are Ultralight Scheel Racing Seats in fireproof Nomex. Even my acetalene torch wouldn't burn them. However it left a mark that is still there after 33 years.
Hey, I had to test them to be sure that they were fireproof.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1227981481.jpg

Close up of the Scheel Badge.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1227981507.jpg

It was important to check the hole openings for the seat belts and shoulder harness to make sure they will take 3" wide racing seat belts.
I intend to re-install the Scheel Racing Seats in the Carrera where they belong.
So if you want a ride and you are over 190, better pm me soon. ;)

Derek gets first Mulholland ride and he will easily fit into the Scheel. He and I are about 175 pounds each.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1227981530.jpg

flatspot 11-29-2008 04:18 PM

Hey chris,
You know I want a ride, guess it's time to hit the treadmill ;>)

Heel n Toe 12-04-2008 09:14 AM

Chris, since this is the year you brought her back to life, I think it would be appropriate to string some Christmas lights up on the roll cage and hang a few ornaments. Whaddaya say?

Maybe in the engine compartment, too. :D

vntgspd 12-04-2008 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heel n Toe (Post 4339755)
Chris, since this is the year you brought her back to life, I think it would be appropriate to string some Christmas lights up on the roll cage and hang a few ornaments. Whaddaya say?

Maybe in the engine compartment, too. :D

Chris,

I think you should roll it back into the living room where it belongs (when not on the road (of) course) and put it under the tree!

David

Banning 12-04-2008 09:49 AM

Holiday season
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vntgspd (Post 4339763)
Chris,

I think you should roll it back into the living room where it belongs (when not on the road (of) course) and put it under the tree!

David

Those are all excellent ideas guys. However amidst everything else going on during the holidays I am preparing the car for the second anniversary of this thread. More to come.

(Dave, the car is inside the house already right now. I have an interior garage that takes up the center of the house.)

lfot 12-04-2008 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Banning (Post 4330121)
Derek gets first Mulholland ride and he will easily fit into the Scheel. He and I are about 175 pounds each.

Very good estimation!

flatspot 12-04-2008 07:51 PM

Chris,
I recently saw something in one of the car mag's that might work for your passenger side
shoulder harnesses. I will try to find an online source but basically it's a clamp on section
that would clamp to the existing roll cage tubes with no cutting or welding.
There's a company in the U.K. called Oakley Design that builds gear for 911 cup cars
including roll cages in steel, T45 alloy, and believe it or not Carbon Fiber! They use these
clamp things for some parts of their bolt in cages like the door bars and also their CF
cage. As I said they work in T45 alloy cages and they are F.I.A. certified so you know
they'll be safe. I'll try and find the link.
Kiley

Banning 12-05-2008 07:55 AM

Seatbelts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by flatspot (Post 4341172)
Chris,
I recently saw something in one of the car mag's that might work for your passenger side
shoulder harnesses. I will try to find an online source but basically it's a clamp on section
that would clamp to the existing roll cage tubes with no cutting or welding.
There's a company in the U.K. called Oakley Design that builds gear for 911 cup cars
including roll cages in steel, T45 alloy, and believe it or not Carbon Fiber! They use these
clamp things for some parts of their bolt in cages like the door bars and also their CF
cage. As I said they work in T45 alloy cages and they are F.I.A. certified so you know
they'll be safe. I'll try and find the link.
Kiley

Thanks Kiley!

After a lot of dicking around, I purchased seat belts for the Carrera. One set for the Recaro sport seats and one set for the Scheel racing seats. Both sets are in black but I had to get two different styles to accomodate the different seats.

For using with the Recaro Sport Seats; 2 inch wide belts with aircraft type aluminum lift lever buckle in 4 point style.

http://wescoperformance.stores.yahoo.net/am4point.html

And for the Scheel racing seats; the big 3 inch wide racing belts with the huge Kotex-style latch in 5 point style.

http://wescoperformance.stores.yahoo.net/crow-racing-restraint.html

flatspot 12-05-2008 04:34 PM

Cool Chris,
Still curios how your going to secure the passanger side shoulder belts.
Also, any desision on tires?
Kiley
PS, the website I mentioned is www.oakleydesign.eu

Banning 12-06-2008 06:37 AM

Getting close
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by flatspot (Post 4343129)
Cool Chris,
Still curios how your going to secure the passanger side shoulder belts.
Also, any desision on tires?
Kiley
PS, the website I mentioned is www.oakleydesign.eu

The passenger side shoulder harness mounting point should probably be located on the rear seating ;) kick panel.

No final decision on Tires. I just know that I don't want Hoosiers (or Caldwells, ha ha). Old style Blue Streaks are available in select sizes, I'm leaning toward those.

Next week will be the final hurdle, REGISTRATION. Can't wait for that one!

flatspot 12-06-2008 04:25 PM

Chris,
good luck at the DMV. I hope you sneak through inspection with no problems.
Good news on the Goodyears since the suspention is already set up for them.
Switching from the bias plys to a modern radial would almost certaianly require
tweeking the alignment. If you can't find the Blue Streaks in your sizes, another
option might be Avons. they make bias ply racing tires for most of the European
vintage racing scene. Good luck.
Kiley

slodave 12-06-2008 06:15 PM

Only problem with Avon, is the name... :cool:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1228608660.jpg

flatspot 12-07-2008 04:16 PM

OK Dave,
I'll ask, What/where is that?
Also, not to worry, not many Avon ladies on Mul ;>)
Kiley

slodave 12-08-2008 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flatspot (Post 4346209)
OK Dave,
I'll ask, What/where is that?
Also, not to worry, not many Avon ladies on Mul ;>)
Kiley

Kiley, Here's the link to what I am doing.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/off-topic-discussions/444684-my-rc-glider-now-has-wirless-video-2-mile-range.html

Here's another pic, but from about 1200' above ground.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1228725611.jpg

Give a better idea of where I am? :)

flatspot 12-08-2008 05:12 PM

Dave, that's crazy but cool. I love that guy's quote "you sir are a geek, even my robot thinks
so" Wild!! ;>)

Noah930 12-08-2008 06:30 PM

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