Illegals should not be allowed to drive

[f3nr15]

Originally posted by fintstone
...I cannot believe an Aussie is calling Americans racist...

This statement is blatant nationalism.

AND you're putting words in my mouth.

I am not having a go at Americans.

Actually, if you read through my posts, you'll notice that I haven't actually called anyone 'racist'.

I've simply implied that some of what people have posted up here has 'racist undertones'.

Many of the posters don't specify a location in their profile, so for all I know, they could be from anywhere in the world.

My beef is not with Americans, but with people who discriminate on the basis of race.

Originally posted by fintstone
...Pehaps your ire would be better spent at home solving your own problems...

Are you suggesting that I should not contribute to a discussion on race simply bec I am Australian? Only Americans welcome on this discussion topic, you think?

[island911]

Originally posted by f3nr15
...

My beef is not with Americans, but with people who discriminate on the basis of race.

What "Race" ?



oh, and, you say that you are not calling anyone "racist" still?

[dd74]

...anyway, in school, I learned Spanish mostly so I, as an English major, could communicate.

That says something.

My solution is to move to Mexico (seriously...).

[Moneyguy1]

Lots of new condos going up at Rocky Point!! (also known as Tucson's Beach)

[the]

Originally posted by fingpilot
3 of every 6 accidents in California are hit and run by hispanics.

Yeah, but 50 out of 100 involve non-hispanics.

[island911]

. . .who stop for the paperwork.

[fintstone]

Originally posted by f3nr15
...Are you suggesting that I should not contribute to a discussion on race simply bec I am Australian? Only Americans welcome on this discussion topic, you think?

The topic was allowing illegal aliens to drive. I really don't believe we need to spend a day in the shoes of an illegal to realize that illegals (or anyone else) without license, insurance, and often unsafe vehicles should not be permitted to drive. The simple facts are that most of them are Hispanic and they are a serious problem on the road...as well as for many other reasons. It seems that many folks that are willing to break our laws to enter our country ...do not respect our other laws either.

[red-beard]

Originally posted by dd74
...anyway, in school, I learned Spanish mostly so I, as an English major, could communicate.

That says something.

My solution is to move to Mexico (seriously...).

Buenos Suerte!

[Rick V]

What part of illeagal is so unclear. To get back on topic, it is sad that a woman was killed during a traffic accident..............it happens. The driver being "illeagal" or not isn't much of an issue at this point, a life has been taken...............Sad fact of life.
The part that ticks me off to the point of loading up a few guns is the illeagal part. This needs to be stopped by any means. My fathers parents came to this country, leagally, through Ellis island in the 30's. My Grandfather from Germany and my Grandmother from Hungury. They came here to escape Hitler, they feared his ideas. The border was opened up for them and they lived the American dream.
My mothers grandparents came here from Itally, the same way, through the island and lived the American dream. I am only the 2.5 generation born in this country..............my family (both sides did it the correct way).
Why is it so hard for the wave of Illeagals to follow in the footsteps of those who came before them, and do it the right way? Stay out of my schools, stay out of my hospitols, stay out of my wallet, and unless you do it the right way stay out of my country.
The policys set up to help imigrants start a new life are so giving there is no reason to sneek in and steal from the collective tax payers. Working under the table, not paying taxes, and recieving benifits from the government is theft.

Coming soon to a state near U

[K9Torro]

I got your racist hanging cabrone -

Torro

[scottbombedout]

Originally posted by Nostril Cheese
What if a unlicenced gay albino midget hit a pregnant woman?

yeah lets run them out of town as well !

I hate you white people.

[scottbombedout]

Originally posted by Mark Wilson
I hate you white people.

yeah lets run them out of town as well

[svandamme]

well, there is a solution off course
but y'all won't like it

we in Europe, regulary have cops perform an area wide bunch of check points where they check for

- crooks with stolen goods
- drunk drivers
- uninsured drivers
- illegal aliens
-takes unsafe vehicles off the road
-takes people off the road without drivers licences (suspended or simply not having any)
-busts folks who have a warrant on their head...

now, these things work in more then one way


but again , from the other thread it's clear that regular US citizens will not accept a minor hastle like showing their papers and blowing in a breathalizer , because it infringes on their "freedom"

it's one or the other i think
cannot have no checkpoints and active searches for illegal drivers
and at the same time complain that there's illegals driving...

the only alternative is having holographic TAtoo's on the forehead of valid residents, so cops can see that they are not illegal... but i guess that's worse than the occasional checkpoint and showing ones papers

[Flatbutt1]

Originally posted by svandamme


but again , from the other thread it's clear that regular US citizens will not accept a minor hastle like showing their papers and blowing in a breathalizer , because it infringes on their "freedom"

Wel lyour point is valid of course but there you havethe issue at hand. When our "freedoms"(as you refer to them) are threatened yes we get angry. It is not easy to force us into a European mindset when it comes to freedom of movement. We have never had to present our "papers" in order to move through our country. We don't consider it a "minor" hassle. We WOULD consider it an infringement on our rights. To introduce such a step now would indeed be a step backward. It may come to that , I can't say. But it would indeed be a step back towards one ofthe conditions that has plagued much of the world from the start, the necessity to proveto some authority that you have the right to go where you wish. But as I say, because our own government has apparently allowed it to happen it may indeed come to that.

[svandamme]

but why do you find "showing papers and blowing in a breathaliser" a restriction of anything, except for crooks, drunks, uninsured and illegal aliens that is...

honestly , i never have found a checkpoint anything other then 10 minutes delay, i've had my drivers licence for more then 12 years, and maybe seen 3-4 of them... all in all, 40 minutes worth in 12 years.. big deal ... unless you are living on the road, like say a trucker, they are far and few between, and still effective as both deterrant and actuall busts...

[on-ramp]

Originally posted by Wayne at Pelican Parts
The big problem here is that both parties do not have an incentive to battle this issue. Republicans like cheap labor. Democrats are hopeful for future voters. No one wants to do anything about the problem, they just want to look the other way.

I'm not a fan of the hypocracy of it all - if the country needs the labor force here, then let's seal the borders, give everyone here amnesty, get them on the payrolls paying taxes, get them covered for overtime, and worker's comp, and do it right.

Trouble is, no one wants to do it right - they all want to just look the other way.

-Wayne

exactly. politicians need to be held accountable. they need to wake up and realize that they work for us, and they represent us, the taxpayer. and not their buddies in corporations (ie. cheap labor) and votes from illegals to get re-elected.

at some point, it will be too late to "cure" illegal immigration. all this talk about the "war on terror" since 9/11 and yet border security is almost non-existent. astounding.

I suppose we'll have to wait for that terrorist with a nuclear suitcase to sneak in thru Mexico and detonate in NYC with a million dead before anything is done.

[dd74]

I'm looking at Chile, too.

[island911]

Originally posted by svandamme


honestly , i never have found a checkpoint anything other then 10 minutes delay,....

well, that's how it reads.