Held Hostage on Airplane for 10 hours!?? WTF!!!??

on-ramp · 02:50 PM

I didn't believe the story when I first heard it. Do people in America actually tolerate this type of treatment? Held hostage on a plane sitting on the tarmac for 10 hrs!

Wow. Treated like a piece of gargabe, no water, can't go to the bathroom - some described it as a "cold coffin". Is this America or a third world country. What an embarassment!

is it all about greed?

Jetblue can go to HeLL , never flying that POS airline again. (i dont fly much but when I do, I'd choose another).

apparently passengers have no rights after they get on a plane.

part of the story:

"Faucher said that passengers aboard the flight endured a temporary loss of heat and the airline had no food for passengers, including at least two diabetic customers. Bathroom conditions had reportedly deteriorated as well. "

link to story
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/02/14/wednesday/index.html?section=cnn_latest

Jim Richards · 02-15-2007, 02:45 PM

If you raise a fuss on the plane, you are arrested. I think all travelers should keep the local media phone numbers on speed dial as well as the local law enforcement numbers.

Joeaksa · 02-15-2007, 02:55 PM

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Originally posted by on-ramp
Jetblue can go to HeLL , never flying that POS airline again. (i dont fly much but when I do, I'd choose another).

Excuse me. Are not you the person who is so afraid to fly that he did not go to the superbowl recently because he was afraid to get on the jet????

Next time please take a bus and stick to the radical left causes in the future.

Nostril Cheese · 02-15-2007, 02:57 PM

Joe, can you lend some insight as to why this would be allowed to happen?

on-ramp · 02-15-2007, 02:58 PM

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Originally posted by Joeaksa
Excuse me. Are not you the person who is so afraid to fly that he did not go to the superbowl recently because he was afraid to get on the jet????

Next time please take a bus and stick to the radical left causes in the future.

you are X-cused...& thank you for sticking to the topic at hand.

Flatbutt1 · 02-15-2007, 02:59 PM

happened to me on a flight to Dallas coupla years ago. we actually sat on the plane for 5 hours and then had to return to the gate.

on-ramp · 02-15-2007, 02:59 PM

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Originally posted by Nostril Cheese
Joe, can you lend some insight as to why this would be allowed to happen?

simple. $$$$$. airlines are instructed to keep passangers aboard as long as possibl

unloading passengers and then reloading costs a lot of time/money.

Joeaksa · 02-15-2007, 03:00 PM

NC,

If they push you back from the jetway and another plane takes its place, there are times that there is just no way to unload the jet.

I have to tell the truth that I would not put up with treatment like this myself. I would call 911 and tell the police that I was being held hostage on a jet by the crew. They will not fly, they will not offload the jet and I am not feeling well and requesting medical attention. Period, end of story, either get me to my destination, let me off here or face legal prosecution.

Believe that the pax will file a lawsuit on this and hope they win. Its been done before and the airlines (not Jet Blue BTW) lost.

teenerted1 · 02-15-2007, 03:01 PM

not the full story there...heard that some of the planes had frozen to the tarmac at the gates so incoming planes had no where to go.

if the plane runs out of water how are they to get more. if the original flight was a comuter run why would they have a over stock of food?

come on stop b1tching and think a little about it. its a major winter storm and your are biching about being delayed.

on-ramp · 02-15-2007, 03:03 PM

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Originally posted by teenerted1
not the full story there...heard that some of the planes had frozen to the tarmac at the gates so incoming planes had no where to go.

if the plane runs out of water how are they to get more. if the original flight was a comuter run why would they have a over stock of food?

come on stop b1tching and think a little about it. its a major winter storm and your are biching about being delayed.

open the doors, bring a staircase to the plane and bus the passengers back to the terminal.

Joeaksa · 02-15-2007, 03:03 PM

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Originally posted by on-ramp
simple. $$$$$. airlines are instructed to keep passangers aboard as long as possibl

unloading passengers and then reloading costs a lot of time/money.

It would be nice if you had even the slightest bit of a clue about what you are talking about.

Please show me some proof of the airlines being told to keep pax onboard on the ground? Please? Do I need to bet you $500 to get it to happen? Your tinfoil hat is shifting and the cosmic rayz are getting in again.

Airlines make money when they fly people around, keeping them happy and their returning, not when they keep them trapped on a jet. They lost a lot of money on that flight, not made money by keeping them onboard.

on-ramp · 02-15-2007, 03:10 PM

unloading passengers and then reloading costs a lot of time/money to the airlines.

it's more economical to keep them aboard for X # of hours and then take-off than to return to the gate and restart the process. that's why it happens.

it's common sense.

teenerted1 · 03:19 PM

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Originally posted by Joeaksa
Excuse me. Are not you the person who is so afraid to fly that he did not go to the superbowl recently because he was afraid to get on the jet????

Next time please take a bus and stick to the radical left causes in the future.

don't tell him to do that....he'll complain about being stuck in the ditch,

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16711952/

and the snowplow shooting a mailbox through his windshield when it tried to clear the 6" of ice

artplumber · 02-15-2007, 03:15 PM

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Originally posted by on-ramp
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it's common sense.

UURRRR OK....

I believe that the tow machines etc were the ones frozen to the ground. The prob was that there were a whole bunch on the runway hoping the storm would lift for a few seconds so they could take off

-like that was going to happen. The gates then got filled up w/arrivals, and the machines froze up not allowing them to push the empties back....

Sounds like a lot of free vacations..

Joeaksa · 02-15-2007, 03:16 PM

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Originally posted by teenerted1
don't tell him to do that....he'll complain about being stuck in the ditch, and the snowplow shooting a mailbox through his windshield when it tried to clear the 6" of ice

Ted,

Its not worth the argument. Airplanes make money only when they are flying, and keeping one anywhere on the ground is counterproductive to the bean counters.

Trying to get this through the thick skull of OR is a job that I choose not to accept, its just not worth it. One might think that with only 36 years of aviation experience behind me I might have an idea of that world but he would rather beat his head against the wall then tell everyone how good it feels to stop...

On Ramp,

So now you are basing this on common sense? How about good old solid proof or are you going to recant your drivel and accept reality for a change?

on-ramp · 03:23 PM

i dont need to prove anything... (ie. there's nothing written in any manual or instruction booklet).

but , wink wink, we all know it's the case. don't make me start a poll.

Zeke · 02-15-2007, 03:24 PM

Yeah, but 10 hours??!!!! That's just not reasonable. I'm not sure what the facilities were like. Would they arrest me if I pissed in my pants while sitting there? I certainly would if I had to.

rouxroux · 02-15-2007, 03:28 PM

Pop the emer. exits, slide down off of the trailing edge, use the seat cushion as a sled...I'm sure they'd send a bus to p/u passengers loose on the tarmac!

haha pwned-ramp.

on-ramp · 03:38 PM

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Originally posted by Joeaksa
Excuse me. Are not you the person who is so afraid to fly that he did not go to the superbowl recently because he was afraid to get on the jet????

Next time please take a bus and stick to the radical left causes in the future.

hey Captain jack: obviously your 36 years of the compression and decompression in your brain has left you with no sensitivities towards people with legitimate phobias (which include flying).
you could have stayed to the topic at hand, but you chose to get your digs and bring that SB thing up.

have a good flight

David · David's Garage

Hopefully this incident will the be the straw that forces the FAA to change these stupid on time rules that cause planes to pull away from the gate when they don't have a chance in hell of taking off.