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The Holy Writ as presented in the Torah, Bible and Koran. All interpeted by wisemen who have spent years of diligent study of the above texts. A strict observance of Shria Law would be a healthy thing for a debauched state like CA.

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Said in true tabula fashion. But just wait, after the next "big one", California will no longer be a problem...and we will both own oceanside property.
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Said in true tabula fashion. But just wait, after the next "big one", California will no longer be a problem...and we will both own oceanside property.
Am hoping that happens before global warming brings the water up 10 feet.

All the kooks there might want to immigrate to Arizona and we do not take kindly to those heathens...
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Re: Tabs Issues a Fatone On Liberals

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Praise be God and his mercy upon us. There is a scourge upon the land, and that scourge is the Permissive thinking of Liberals. This permissive thinking by Liberals has led to the Moral decay of society. A falling away from the beliefs of our fathers, a turning of the back on the laws of God as Satan has done. Liberals have created laws which are contrary to the laws of God, have embraced the secularist view of denying God. However the laws of God exist and need no consent from men. Under the laws of God, Christians, Jews or Muslims rise up and chastise and beat back this scourge of permissive thinking by Liberals. Praise be God and his mercy upon us.
I'm sure the responses to this are amusing and I'll read them when I have time. For now, I'm just commenting on the opening post, Tabs' latest genius-stroke.

Yes, liberals are.........liberal. Yes, they are inclined to permit a wider range of behavior. This is what makes us liberals wonder how you conservatives can possibly, with a straight face, pretend that conservatives are for "freedom."

I don't even think God is on board with you conservatives. My personal belief is that God wants people to choose his Way freely. Not because the alternatives are illegal.

But again, let's not get distracted. Conservatives are for placing limits on citizens' behavior. Liberals are for removing limits on citizens' behavior. That's why we use those particular terms.

And that's why I am a liberal.
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But again, let's not get distracted. Conservatives are for placing limits on citizens' behavior. Liberals are for removing limits on citizens' behavior. That's why we use those particular terms.

And that's why I am a liberal.
Day dreaming again are we?
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SUpe:

You are far too serious. Conservatives, as of late, like to spend our money. Conservatives urge total individual freedom without government interference. These are now conservative goals, and that is why I rail against labels. They have, for the most part, become meaningless and in the case of our resident guru, used as a negative rather than as a philosophy.

Liberals, as of late, want to rein in the power of the federal government. Liberals want to limit certain "freedoms" for the good of all.

Now.....Who are the conservatives and who are the liberals?

Even the great tabula cannot answer this conundrum without resorting to generalities.
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Re: Re: Tabs Issues a Fatone On Liberals

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But again, let's not get distracted. Conservatives are for placing limits on citizens' behavior. Liberals are for removing limits on citizens' behavior. That's why we use those particular terms.
It's been that way for as long as I've been alive (46). For someone much older it may look different, I'd like to hear from them.
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Tabs,

Here is a short video on “God’s law.” I would be interested in your response to this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkXOwBIRX7Y
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Repulsive...How dare anyone say that Gods Law is repulsive. This is a clear example of the fuzzy headed thinking that Permissive Liberals do.
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As Ronald Reagan said:

"Now there you go again."

Slow day, tabs? Need to pull some chains?
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Repulsive...How dare anyone say that Gods Law is repulsive. This is a clear example of the fuzzy headed thinking that Permissive Liberals do.
Did you watch it, or did you just stop after the first sentence?

Let me comment about just one of the points he makes in the video.

You, tabs, believe in the ten commandments, right? In particular, you believe in the fourth commandment, “do no work on the Sabbath day.” This is not just god’s law, this is one of his commandments. But look at reality in America. Wal Mart is open on Sunday, as is Target. Millions of stores are open on Sunday, even “Family Christian Stores.”

This is pretty clear. Your precious “god’s law” tells us not to work on Sunday, yet millions do. It’s a commandment, with no room for discussion or argument. Millions and millions break this law. What do your laws say about those who break the fourth commandment? God’s law is very clear on this as well. In the very same book of the bible where you find the ten commandments, you find the answer to this question, what to do with the people who break the fourth commandment:

“Whoever does any work on the Sabbath day must be put to death.” -Exodus 31:15.

Again, there is no room for discussion or argument. According to gods law, the millions and millions who work on Sunday must receive the death penalty. Period. No exceptions.

That’s what your law says. We must kill the millions and millions of people who work on Sunday. And, according to Psalm 19:7, “The law of the lord is perfect.” You agree with Psalm 19:7, don’t you?

I guess it’s those damn liberals to blame, isn’t it? The ones who say it’s OK to work on Sunday? And you, your law says to kill all of those people.

Which position do you think is repulsive now?
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I am certain that tabula will come up with a suitable retort. He always does, if only to once again poke that stick in the wasp's nest.

How DARE anyone refute the word of one who is a legend in his own mind? (or at least would like us to think so!!)
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Except we aren't getting paid for the bon mots.
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Here's another one. I don't know if tabs can even get past the title, but if he does, I'm curious to hear his rebuttal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RV46fsmx6E
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Kang man - get a grip.

At least do a little research on this.
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You, tabs, believe in the ten commandments, right? In particular, you believe in the fourth commandment, “do no work on the Sabbath day.” This is not just god’s law, this is one of his commandments. But look at reality in America. Wal Mart is open on Sunday, as is Target. Millions of stores are open on Sunday, even “Family Christian Stores.”

This is pretty clear. Your precious “god’s law” tells us not to work on Sunday, yet millions do. It’s a commandment, with no room for discussion or argument. Millions and millions break this law. What do your laws say about those who break the fourth commandment? God’s law is very clear on this as well. In the very same book of the bible where you find the ten commandments, you find the answer to this question, what to do with the people who break the fourth commandment:

“Whoever does any work on the Sabbath day must be put to death.” -Exodus 31:15.

Again, there is no room for discussion or argument. According to gods law, the millions and millions who work on Sunday must receive the death penalty. Period. No exceptions.

That’s what your law says. We must kill the millions and millions of people who work on Sunday. And, according to Psalm 19:7, “The law of the lord is perfect.” You agree with Psalm 19:7, don’t you?

I guess it’s those damn liberals to blame, isn’t it? The ones who say it’s OK to work on Sunday? And you, your law says to kill all of those people.

Which position do you think is repulsive now?
Kang,

One small issue with your post. The Christians may have things like you posted above in their past but they are not insisting on a return to law that adheres to this behaviour.

The Moslems are in many cases pushing for a return to sharia law, if not living it already.

How about the 12 year old kid shown on EVERY news network this past weekend killing, then cutting the head off of a "supposed US spy" in Pakistan?

How about the 16 year old girl in Iran who was hanged recently after being raped? Her rapist, a 50 year old man received 100 lashes.

Then we have the workers you see on every street and market in Saudi with their right hand having been cut off for stealing.

Please give us one, ONE example of someone killed in recent history for disobeying the Ten Commandments? One limit, no one who was killed for adultery.

Waiting....

Joe

PS I do not work on Sunday. There are a few of us like that.
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You are far too serious. Conservatives, as of late, like to spend our money. Conservatives urge total individual freedom without government interference. These are now conservative goals, and that is why I rail against labels. They have, for the most part, become meaningless and in the case of our resident guru, used as a negative rather than as a philosophy.

Liberals, as of late, want to rein in the power of the federal government. Liberals want to limit certain "freedoms" for the good of all.

Now.....Who are the conservatives and who are the liberals?

Even the great tabula cannot answer this conundrum without resorting to generalities.
I feel as though I am paying far too much attention to make these mistakes, and I thought the same about you.

Yes, conservatives spend like drunken sailors. That's been the case as long as I can remember.

Yes, gun control has been associated with liberals. For this reason and this reason alone, liberals get a label. Set aside gun control, and what do you have? You have, even unto this day, liberals wanting to free citizens and regulate business. And conservatives wanting exactly the opposite. This emphasis on deregulation and freedom for business is PLENTY confusing enough to fool people into thinking that conservatives support "freedom."
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_ten_commandments

"Modern Evangelicalism, under the influence of dispensationalism, commonly denies that the commandments have any abiding validity as a requirement binding upon Christians; however, they contain principles which are beneficial to the believer. Dispensationalism is particularly emphatic about the dangers of legalism, and thus, in a distinctive way de-emphasizes the teaching of the law (see also antinomianism). Somewhat analogously, Pentecostalism and the Charismatic movement typically emphasizes the guidance of the Holy Spirit, and the freedom of the Christian from outward commandments, sometimes in antithesis to the letter of the Law. Quakers and Pietists have historically set themselves against the Law as a form of commandment binding on Christians, and have emphasized the inner guidance and liberty of the believer, so that the law is fulfilled not merely by avoiding what the Law prohibits, but by carrying out what the Spirit of God urges upon their conscience."

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