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			Turns out, it in no way resembles what the politicians think it is (sorry for the cut & paste, but it's on a site you have to register for): 
		
	
		
	
			
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			What's the point?  Of course older people have more money.  They've had more time to accumulate it.  Baby boomers (of which I am one) were raised by parents that lived through WW2.  Times were tougher than anything we've ever known.  As a direct result, we were raised with a different set of financial principals than our kids are. . .by a long shot.  
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			It's no surprise that young people are deep in debt. Why not? They've never had to pinch pennies. Mom and Dad are still around to bail them out, and if mom and dad croak, they'll receive a windfall of inheritance. Life is good. Should baby-boomers somehow feel bad that the younger generations have to pay taxes and SS? Should we continue to coddle our babies and not expect them to be self sufficient mature responsible adults? I think we know the answer. It's a natural cycle. It's not a social "issue". Kind of like global warming. 
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			The politicians would have us believe that wealth is highly correlated with "class".  Turns out the correlation is with age.
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			I'm not surprised. I just turned 29, and the median net worth for the 20-29 age bracket is $7,900...and the average net worth for households under 35 is just $11,400. To be in the top 25% net worth for 20-29 is only $36,000...but top 10% for my age bracket is ~119,000. And yikes, CNN money says median net worth for my age is a whopping $2,125. I think that student loans and credit card foolishness are significant factors in the low-skewing results for folks my age. Also, people wait way too long to start IRAs/401ks etc. ... just my $.02 
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			Man, I'm 28 and I'd estimate my net worth (assets - liabilities) to be in the top 10% according to your numbers.  I've just put a buttload into my 401k...
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			I max out both IRAs...only wish I'd started a few years earlier. My next goal is top 10% for 30-39, by age 35. Looking like it will be 914 and not Cayman for years to come for me... 
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			1) The older folks have the highest net worth; as expected. 2) We're worried that with social security in trouble, that same class of people cannot ever retire and will be a social burden to the younger generation.... Doesn't add up and the numbers are out of date....I had just done some research regarding net worth by percentile of population a few days before this article appeared... 
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			I've suspected this for some time but haven't obtained any quantitative data to support my suspicions.  The "armchair quarterback" analysis is that our parents' generation spent like drunken sailors, ran up prices (or values, depending on one's point of view) by embracing wanton consumption, changed us from a nation of savers/investors (our grandparents' generation) to a nation of takers/consumers and largely passed the debt and negative implications of the reckless consumption onto their kids (us).  Nothing that hasn't been said a million times. 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			Not to worry though, payback is a beyatch and pretty soon the offenders will become too old/infirm to care for themselves and our generation will be able to screw them back the same way they screwed us (and our children) by saying "sorry, there's not enough money to support that". It's cyclical. Expect a major crash/recession/depression in the up-and-coming generation, followed by a generation of frugal savers, followed by another generation of reckless consumers. That's just my prediction though. 
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			I've heard this.  From the younger generation.  They're a little sore that the Baby Boomers have sucked up all the resources.  Housing, for example, is just insanely out of reach for them.  We Boomers have been buying the prices upward.
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			I'm a mere babe of 54 but it's nice to be well over the median of those old people. 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
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			I am a firm believer that the OLDER people should make the younger ones pay. After all being in the presence of an Older persons wisdom is  reason enough for a younger person to pay.
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			
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 So, it's not that the young, especially the young with degrees are being magically left behind. It's their own "gotta have it all NOW" attitude that is leaving them behind. In order to "have it now", they usually only ask "how much per month?" No politician can fix that. No nation in history has taxed and regulated itself into prosperity. Nobody learns proper money management unless they want to. Neither Cindy or I have a degree. We just worked hard, saved, self educated ourselves in matters financial. Early on, we both had developed a hatred for debt. This mutual hatred was developed long before we met. Some, not all, younger people today don't seem to worry about personal debt. Let the good times roll...  
		
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			I screwed up somewhere. I'm 54 and while my networth is around $250,000 due to my house being nearly paid off, I have very little liquid asset wealth.
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			
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