Scooter's prison term commuted!!! - Page 3

lyon · lyon's Garage

Yo Racerbvd
Get the Quote right

"Like driving the sh$t out of your Porsche without oil, destroying it from the inside.
Burn it up and destroy! Go Bush! Faster!! Destroy!!!"

Please do not mis quote me!
Neo Cons.....

Joeaksa · 07-02-2007, 11:24 PM

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Originally posted by Superman
Yup, he's the right man to restore morality and values to the White House. Unfortunately, that last President probably taught young people to lie about their clandestine 'hummers.' Nothering we can do about that.

But all is not lost. The current guy is teaching them that laws and judges' decisions do not need to be respected. Teaching traditional values by example.

Couldnt have anything to do with the fact that the judges decision to put him in jail was based on a witch hunt and nothing to do with what the trial was started for in the first place could it?

Are you saying that judges should have no check and balance system, that THEIR power is absolute and that they are God here on earth and never making a mistake? The Constitution allowed for the President to do things like this as a way to correct actions like this, so now I guess you do not agree with the Constitution? If you guys agree with this then guess the Dry Cleaners that the judge sued last month should have been rewarded $65 MILLION dollars for a single pair of pants? Judges make mistakes and this ruling was a mistake that has now been corrected.

Traditional values? You mean like having multiple affairs while being married? Blow jobs with an intern in the White House instead of running the country, then lying about it on national television, only to be proven to be a liar later when the sperm matches his DNA? This is the kind of "traditional values" that you guys respect?

You guys are who are drooling over this and saying "King George" are as bad if not worse as the person you are slamming IMHO... Guess you have no values.

Shaun @ Tru6 · 07-03-2007, 02:12 AM

please, all this posturing.

this has nothing to do with Libby and everything with Bush taking his glove and going home when all the big kids on the block wouldn't let him play. it's a desperate little stand to say I have power. In this week alone, Bush has been told by:

Dick Luger: "You're irrelevant"

Putin: "You're irrelevant"

Terrorists: "You're irrelevant"

Cheney: "You're irrelevant"

Every Presidential candidate: "You're irrelevant"

Red faced and holding back the tears, he wimpers to the world, "yes I am." and sulks home.

island_dude · 07-03-2007, 02:38 AM

I never thought he would stoop so low as to commute a sentence that he didn't even begin to serve. I don't know how you can call this case a witch hunt. It was initiated by pursued by the same administration that it was targeted. If anything that is a conflict of interest.

The guy lied in court. Not a case of forgetting details. Out right lied about the facts. At the grand jury and in court too.

I guess thats ok if your boss in Dick Cheney.

Typically pardons are granted after the sentence is served. I would not be surprised to see him get the full pardon at the end too.

Shaun @ Tru6 · 07-03-2007, 02:43 AM

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Originally posted by island_dude

The guy lied in court. Not a case of forgetting details. Out right lied about the facts. At the grand jury and in court too.

Whoa! hold on there. the Pelican OT Right Wing Nutball Peanut Gallery has weighed in on this topic and he definitely didn't lie. He only forgot, to uh, tell the truth. I'm not sure where you get your info, but these guys are in the know.

Rick Lee · Rick Lee's Garage

Now how about pardoning the Border Patrol agents?

Scooter · 07-03-2007, 07:29 AM

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Originally posted by bigchillcar
goodness..thought that you meant 'our' scooter..

They haven't got me yet Ryan.

BeyGon · 07-03-2007, 07:39 AM

"The guy lied in court. Not a case of forgetting details. Out right lied about the facts. At the grand jury and in court too. "

Someone must be talking about Clinton again.

Jim Richards · 07-03-2007, 07:43 AM

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Originally posted by Rick Lee
Now how about pardoning the Border Patrol agents?

+1

Joeaksa · 07-03-2007, 07:47 AM

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Originally posted by Jim Richards
+1

+1000

The legal authorities in this case really need to be over-ridden. Another example of "the judge is not always right"...

lendaddy · 07-03-2007, 07:52 AM

It's been a while so correct me with the details. Scooters lie was saying he learned of Plame from Russert rather than from someone else. He claimed it was a memory lapse and they claim it was to misdirect.

Is the actual testimony available?

Lothar · Lothar's Garage

Heard Alan Colmes last night trying to contort the Libby story to imply that Libby had leaked Valerie Plame's identity.

I thought we already had a confession regarding the leak and IT WASN'T LIBBY, CHEYNEY OR ROVE!!! Nor was Libby convicted of leaking Plame's name.

Typical leftist media type. If he tells a lie often enough, maybe people will believe it. Can his type ever just concede defeat on this issue and report on something factual?

widebody911 · widebody911's Garage

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Originally posted by Rick Lee
I'm outraged. Libby should have gotten a full pardon. Can't wait until we get a good president.

Sorry, but I don't think Hillary would have granted him a full pardon.

Jim Richards · 07-03-2007, 08:01 AM

Yawn. I guess we should abolish the jury system for criminal trials for neocon gov't officials. Juries can't be trusted to acquit them in spite of the testimonies and evidence provided in court. They should defer to PPOT where the brilliant legal minds congregate.

Carry on.

Joeaksa · 07-03-2007, 08:03 AM

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Originally posted by widebody911
Sorry, but I don't think Hillary would have granted him a full pardon.

Her husband granted more than enough full pardons to real criminals, so why not Hitlery? Scooter is not a criminal and did not get a pardon so why is everyone upset?

If everyone thinks that this is a miss-carriage of justice, then please explain how Sandy Berger did not one day in jail after STEALING classified materials?

Joeaksa · 07-03-2007, 08:06 AM

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Originally posted by Jim Richards
Yawn. I guess we should abolish the jury system for criminal trials for neocon gov't officials. Juries can't be trusted to acquit them in spite of the testimonies and evidence provided in court. They should defer to PPOT where the brilliant legal minds congregate.

Carry on.

Seem to remember that the judge over-ruled the jury in this one and gave more time in jail and fines. He had a hard on for Scooter from the beginning.

Jim Richards · 08:14 AM

But he was a conservative Repub. judge, if my memory hasn't failed me.

edit: ...and the prosecutor asked for a more harsh sentence than what the judge settled on.

Rick Lee · Rick Lee's Garage

Libby should never have been charged in the first place. Everything after that just exacerbated the miscarriage of justice. The only crime that was committed here was Joe Wilson's testimony before the Senate Intel. Committee, which they said in their report was FALSE. But he wasn't ever even mentioned as a target of the investigation.

Jim Richards · 07-03-2007, 08:17 AM

If your co-worker outs a CIA agent with cover (confirmed by the CIA, BTW), and you lie to obstruct the prosecution of the case against your co-worker, you will spend a lot of years in federal prison, RL. You know this is true.

Wilson is another matter, entirely.

Rick Lee · Rick Lee's Garage

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Originally posted by Jim Richards
If your co-worker outs a CIA agent with cover (confirmed by the CIA, BTW), and you lie to obstruct the prosecution of the case against your co-worker, you will spend a lot of years in federal prison, RL. You know this is true.

Wilson is another matter, entirely.

Whose co-worker? Colin Powell's deputy at State, Richard Armitage?