Scooter's prison term commuted!!!

[Jim Richards]

Armitage & Rove.

Please take emotion and ideology out of the equation, Richard. Just stick to the law.

[Rick Lee]

Ok, I'll stick to the law. Rove was never a target of the investigation, was not charged, not indicted. Same for Armitage except he ADMITTED being the leaker. See the problem here?

[Jim Richards]

No. Armitage was cooperating with the prosecutor and I have no idea what arrangements were made between them.

Richard, lets try my earlier question again, but this time lets make it personal...

Suppose your co-worker (Joe Blow) outs a CIA agent with cover (confirmed by the CIA, BTW), and you (RL) lie to obstruct the prosecution of the case against your co-worker (Joe Blow), you (RL) will spend a lot of years in federal prison. Do you doubt that? And it would be appropriate.

[lendaddy]

Jim, you're assuming Libby was trying to protect Amritage which is not true. Armitage had already admitted it.

[Rick Lee]

Yeah James, if your scenario were anything at all like what happened, I might agree with the verdict. But it's not even close.

[Jim Richards]

Not assuming anything. There was a conviction on multiple counts. I guess politics makes it all better. Poor unfairly picked on Libby.

Let's stop trying to retry the case in OT. Sandy Berger's skivvies, the stained blue dress, Bill's BJ and "is" and what other administration characters did is irrelevant. Libby was convicted.

[Jim Richards]

Originally posted by Rick Lee
Yeah James, if your scenario were anything at all like what happened, I might agree with the verdict. But it's not even close.

really? You have any inside information that the prosecution was not aware of?

[Rick Lee]

I was going to ask you the same question.

[Jim Richards]

I'm sworn to secrecy.

[Joeaksa]

Originally posted by Jim Richards
If your co-worker outs a CIA agent with cover (confirmed by the CIA, BTW), and you lie to obstruct the prosecution of the case against your co-worker, you will spend a lot of years in federal prison, RL. You know this is true.

Wilson is another matter, entirely.

Valerie Plame was not a "black" CIA employee. She had told several of her neighbours that she was a company employee and it was well known around DC.

Otherwise agree with what you are saying but she does not fit into this catagory, no matter how much she might want to make us feel this way.

[Jim Richards]

The CIA disputed your claim, Joe.

[Joeaksa]

Originally posted by Jim Richards
Let's stop trying to retry the case in OT. Sandy Berger's skivvies, the stained blue dress, Bill's BJ and "is" and what other administration characters did is irrelevant. Libby was convicted.

So have a lot of other people who were not guilty as well. You want to overlook this I assume?

[Jim Richards]

Yes. It's called "focus."

[Rick Lee]

Originally posted by Jim Richards
The CIA disputed your claim, Joe.

They didn't do so until around the time Libby was indicted, long after they were asked about this. They stalled and stalled on this, trying to cover their a$ses for their pi$s poor job of defining her status or "protecting" her cover, letting her pose for the cover of Vanity Fair, list the CIA as her employer when she donated to Al Gore's campaign, list herself in Who's Who in American. If our spies are really this bad, we are in big trouble.

Anyway, Wilson made bogus allegations about Cheney in the NYT. Would you have bought it had Cheney said, "Those allegations are false, but I can't tell you why because it would lead to the identity of an undercover operative who arranged for Wilson to make this trip?" Yeah, I'm sure everyone would have bought that.

[Jim Richards]

What does that have to do with anything?

Dodge, weave, jump, pull back, dodge, weave...

[Jim Richards]

For the life of me, I don't understand why some of you want two levels of justice in America. Shouldn't all be held accountable, equally under the law?

[Rick Lee]

It has a lot to do with everything, since her covert status was in question for the entire length of the investigation. In fact, I don't recall any reporter mentioning exactly when the CIA confirmed that she was undercover. It was an open question until after Libby's indictment, which makes one wonder if the CIA changed anything to give the investigation some more legs. Has nothing to do with Libby, since he wasn't charged with leaking her name. But the crime Fitzgerald was after could have been substantiated long before it was, which would have given his fishing expedition a little more legitimacy. How would you like to have on your resume a two-year, multi-million dollar investigation that never charged anyone for what you were originally investigating?

[Jim Richards]

I give up. You believe what you want to believe. You pol's are the only good pol's. Everyone's conspiring against your pol's. It's all an evil plot.

[Rick Lee]

Originally posted by Jim Richards
For the life of me, I don't understand why some of you want two levels of justice in America. Shouldn't all be held accountable, equally under the law?

Absolutely. And that's why Joe Wilson belongs in jail. Not only did his op-ed in the NYT out his wife by drawing attention to himself and how he picked for the trip, he also LIED to the Senate Intel. Comm., which is a fed. crime.

[Jim Richards]

Libby....this thread is about Libby.