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Email forward worth reading
Some of you may have seen it, but I thought it was a good one.
Luke AFB is west of Phoenix and is rapidly being surrounded by civilization that complains about the noise from the base and its planes, forgetting that it was there long before they were. A certain lieutenant colonel at Luke AFB deserves a big pat on the back. Apparently, an individual who lives somewhere near Luke AFB wrote the local paper complaining about a group of F-16s that disturbed his/her day at the mall. When that individual read the response from a Luke AFB officer, it must have stung quite a bit. The complaint: "Question of the day for Luke Air Force Base: Whom do we thank for the morning air show? Last Wednesday, at precisely 9:11 a.m., a tight formation of four F-16 jets made a low pass over Arrowhead Mall, continuing west over Bell Road at approximately 500 feet. Imagine our good fortune! Do the Tom Cruise-wannabes feel we need this wake-up call, or were they trying to impress the cashiers at Mervyns early bird special? Any response would be appreciated." The response: Regarding "A wake-up call from Luke's jets" (Letters, Thursday): On June 15, at precisely 9:12 a.m., a perfectly timed four-ship flyby of F-16s from the 63rd Fighter Squadron at Luke Air Force Base flew over the grave of Capt. Jeremy Fresques. Capt. Fresques was an Air Force officer who was previously stationed at Luke Air Force Base and was killed in Iraq on May 30, Memorial Day. At 9 a.m. on June 15, his family and friends gathered at Sunland Memorial Park in Sun City to mourn the loss of a husband, son and friend. Based on the letter writer's recount of the flyby, and because of the jet noise, I'm sure you didn't hear the 21-gun salute, the playing of taps, or my words to the widow and parents of Capt. Fresques as I gave them their son's flag on behalf of the President of the United States and all those veterans and servicemen and women who understand the sacrifices they have endured. A four-ship flyby is a display of respect the Air Force pays to those who give their lives in defense of freedom. We are professional aviators and take our jobs seriously, and on June 15 what the letter writer witnessed was four officers lining up to pay their ultimate respects. The letter writer asks, "Whom do we thank for the morning air show?" The 56th Fighter Wing will call for you, and forward your thanks to the widow and parents of Capt. Fresques, and thank them for you, for it was in their honor that my pilots flew the most honorable formation of their lives. Lt. Col. Scott Pleus CO 63rd Fighter Squadron Luke AFB
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Very, very classy reply.
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People who move next to an airport or freeway and complain about the noise piss me off. I for one wouldn't mind seeing F-16s fly over my house (although preferably during daylight hours).
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And FWIW:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/wakeup.asp Status: True No disrespect, but I had to check. There is a follow-up apology from the letter-writer, so worth reading.
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Lots of email BS out there, glad to hear this one is legit.
I live near a busy GA airport, and am under the pattern for McConnell AFB. I love watching the planes fly over. Anyone that doesn't like it should move somewhere else. The contract for our house even contained a clause about the AFB, stating that overflight and associated noise should be expected. The AFB had it's annual open house/airshow last weekend, my son and I went. My wife went to the mall. ![]() ![]()
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I grew up close to the now closed Griffiss AFB (spelling?) located in Rome NY.
When I was little, I got to see fighter planes, bombers, and all kinds of stuff flying low and loud. It was the coolest. As far as I can recall, people living there liked it. They probably also realized that it constituted 60% of the economy there, which is why it is a ghosttown now. |
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The apology is a nice touch. Many people would be unwilling to admit their stupidity.
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Can you imagine the calls he was getting??
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His letter to the editor had his full name. Can you imagine the calls he was getting??
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I live about 10 miles from Luke. The entire community came down on this guy when it appeared in the newspaper.
Not surprised about the apology and he even mentioned that he had gotten some death threats, so he was really trying to make people settle down.
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I grew up close to the now closed Griffiss AFB (spelling?) located in Rome NY.
When I was little, I got to see fighter planes, bombers, and all kinds of stuff flying low and loud. It was the coolest. As far as I can recall, people living there liked it. They probably also realized that it constituted 60% of the economy there, which is why it is a ghosttown now. |
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I live near a Navy airfield and love to see them guys fly over my house. Too bad its only P3's and SB4's
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Hey Joe,
I PM'd you something flying related.....not sure if you got it? Kirk
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I guess it was his bad luck that he happened to complain about one out of hundreds (thousands?) of flyovers that the Colonel had an excuse for.
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Kirk,
Pelican PM's seem to be having problems. Pls email me using the icon next to my name. Thx, Joe
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I wonder how much self restraint Lt Col Pleus had to exercise to keep from closing the response with "you ASSHAT!" or other such phrase
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Good story, I'm kind of glad it's "legit". Good follow-through by everyone involved!
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I hear the property adjoining the Whidby Island Naval Air Station, especially that under the noise footprint of the runway, has actually increased in value as veterans and aviation buffs move in. I live close enough to it, McChord AFB, and three other major airpfields (one of which used to have a Guard unit) that I get to hear and see some really cool stuff now and then. Had a B-17 and B-24 fly over a couple of weeks ago. I still run outside like a little kid to look. My dad used to haul us all down to Sea-Tac when it still had an outdoor observation area just to watch planes come and go. The big treat was going to McChord, or over to Spokane to watch the B-52's. Those were the days... Anyway, my hat's off to the men and women that fly these things for us.
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My hat's off too. In respect and gratitude and deference to the men and women who lay it on the line regularly, voluntarily, in the interest of my protection and freedom. This goes for service men and women, and police and fire.
I never wanted to be a policeman or a fire fighter. I admired the test pilots and astronauts. I regard flying as the most fun you can have with your clothes on. I've never been motion sick. I love everything that flies. F-16's are among my very favorite. I lived in Spokane and very much enjoyed the B-52's. Right now, I work at Sea-Tac airport. The smell of kerosene in the mornings and the sound of jet engines is better than bacon and blues, respectively.
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