Depends on what kind of random drug samples are you planning on giving out? :D

was told they also check for health food store detoxifiers around here.

There was a book available called "Just Say No to Drug Tests, How to Beat the Wizz Quiz" by Ed Carson. [ggood memmory, huh]


my cousin failed because he ate a poppy seed bagel.

WTF kind of job are you applying for? If its not drivin' a school bus or working heavy equipment, tell them to go f-ck themselves.

Get a Whizzenator: Your clean friend pisses in a bottle and you pack
it in a bag and tape it in your armpit so that it stays Warm. You then
run a clear tube down your arm, down the side of your torso and up
under your privates. When the time comes to piss in the cup you
simply squeeze the bag under your armpit and a clear stream of
drug-free piss excrements itself out of the bag, down the tube and into
the cup and you are home free.

It worked for Tony Mandrich.

PS: I do not take drugs, nor condone their usage.

here is a link: http://www.whizzinator.com/whiz2.htm
you can even get a fake penis...

Well I'm not taking the quizz. I'm pretty clean anyway. It's just with all this pot talk, and a lot of us seem to have pretty good jobs, someone here had to pass the test. I was curious how they got it done. Most anwers seem a bit extreme.

A girl I knew passed it by having a friend pee in test tube. She inserted said test tube, waited till her turn, and did the deed. Said it was 95.9 but she told them she let it sit for a second while buckling back up.


All the scams seem like a lot of work to keep smoking pot.

agreed

No kidding... I haven't commemorated the day I stopped smoking weed but it has been close to ten years. I just turned 50 and some of my friends still smoke... pretty pathetic actually.

That Whizzenator thing kind of freaks/grosses me out... have a friend pee in a bottle then strap it to yourself? YUCK!

As a rule I try to stay away from other peoples excemnt thank you very much! (I know... I'm such a party pooper)

Haven't had that stuff in about a decade, but vigorously reserve my constitutional right to do so at anytime off the job.

Have heard that drinking a lot of water and orange juice(vitaminC) and exercizing speeds up the fat burn, where THC is stored. This won't work short term, obviously.
Also heard they test for sample dilution by checking levels of a protein digestive byproduct, so eating a lot of meat the nights before might allow for a little faucet turning.
The incidental residue would be from those hippys next to you at the rock concert rock concert or the new poker partners. Tell them before about possible second hand exposure.

Or better yet, find another employer. This one seems to have its priorities jumbled and doesn't deserve your hard work.
I've found there are plenty of drug-free walking vegetables at Home Depot.

The Constitution is a contract between the government and the people. Private employers do not need to follow the Constitution. Nonetheless, how is requiring a drug test an invasion of privacy? If you do not want to pee in the bottle, you don't have to. They aren't holding you down to extract it. Do I want a druggie driving my kids school bus? Building my airplane? Operating on me in the emergency room? No thanks.

http://www.katize.com/wp-content/upl..._for_dopes.jpg

Talk to cyclists... there's plenty of ways

one method... and here comes a fun procedure
before the piss check, they will insert a tube into their urethra
all the way up to the bladder, tickle the bladder valve (dunno the word in english for it)a bit, so it opens, drain the bladder completely, then they will inject other, safe urine in there... and then it's off to the piss test

:D
great fun, innit?

off course, in less difficult enviroments, one might simply stick a bag under the arm, with a tube down low, and squeeze the arm to piss manually and clean... but it won't work if they are watching you closely...

You indicate you stopped stopped 10 yrs. ago. A 40 yr. old man smoking pot isn't pathetic?

LOL...

Do you want the girl who is taking your deposits to the bank (and is a little short this week on funds to buy cheeba) to be a user?

I can't tell you how many cases I investigated in my past career involving medical employees raiding the doctor's drug cabinet. Sad.

Ahhhn, your constitutional rights do not have a thing to do with it. Someone coming down from a stiff night of partying and not being "on the ball" and thus causing an accident that hurts or kills someone is a main reason why people are drug tested. Please show us where something like this is protected in the Constitution.

Second hand exposure? When I was being cleared for my last Top Secret security clearance for the Air Force I was pee tested, as usual. One week before had been in Amsterdam and caught a couple of good whiff's of the stuff the people at the next table were smoking. We moved to another table. I was called in and told that while they could tell that it was second hand and not direct exposure, had I not declared it I would not have passed. Second hand exposure means you were near someone doing drugs, and you better have a good reason for being in proximity of someone doing drugs. In this case it was a legal drug in a country that allows it, otherwise I would have had some difficult questions thrown at me.

Drug testing has gotten a lot better in the last 20 years and if they really want to check you, you cannot hide. If you feel differently, pls tell me how you can get around the hair or fingernail issue.

Find another employer? Well, how does that square with paragraph one? Your right to be high should not intrude on everyone else's right to be safe, on the road, work place or anywhere out in the public. As well how does this square with their wanting an employee who is on the ball, safe and ready to work all day long to earn the money they are being paid? You really want to get high and do not want to be drug tested, then start your own company and you as the owner can do as you wish!

Am sure that some of those people at Home Depot feel exactly the same about others there at times.

Guys, I used to get high when younger. Am not saying not to party but we always did it on Friday or Saturday and were clean and ready to go on Monday. This did not happen every weekend as well. Once I got older and as pee testing came out I stopped as my future is worth more than getting high. As well I kinda outgrew it, and just do not need to "escape reality" these days.

If there is something so bad or difficult in your world that you still feel the need to get high often, then to try fooling the drug tests (or get a new employer who does not test) then one might think that you have other problems that need addressing...

I used to work for a major eastern railroad and part of my job was routinely testing the cab signal system, plus I was also qualified to operate locomotives in the shop area for testing purposes. A side benefit of my job was that I was subject to random testing 4 times a year. I smoked pot when I was much younger so I never worried about the testing but always felt it a huge intrusion on my personal freedom, not to mention a bit insulting. Maybe that personal freedom doesn't really exist in the USA.

is the occasional joint worse then a 40 year old drinking scotch daily?

who would be worse off? somebody who smokes pot every day? or an alcoholic with a taste for Wodka in his Evian bottle at work????



for one thing, anybody having others taking deposits to the bank will have to trust that person, and potheads are usually not the thieving kind compared to say Meth heads... or even folks with a sober, but bad character...

a certain percentage of folks can't be trusted, that's a fact of life... but show me factual data , that potheads(pure potheads, not meth users who also smoke weed) are less honest , and let's compared that with teetotaling numbers

sure, and from those cases that resulted in convictions
what percentage of those, had a guilty party who smoked pot, and just pot, not messing around with other substances...

oh , wait, i would imagine that number to be low, considering they were raiding the doctors cabinet, where i presume they didn't find Maui Wawi, but Barbiturates, and what not... things that are far more addictive then Marihuana... no? please correct me if i'm wrong

If you're doing illegal drugs (or legal booze), you won't be taking my bank deposits with you. If an adult has to get high, and getting high is more important then their career, there's something very wrong with that person.

just a moment digression


i was camping in N Calif a few yrs ago and hanging with a local for a few hrs at night. He said many high end NW software architects, whatever that is, drop acid to develop and explore new circuits. Said they actually journey through the circuit like an electron.

You can have all the personal freedom you want when you are a greeter at Wal-Mart, digging ditches or picking up trash for a living. If you are going to be doing something that possibly puts the public at risk, then its time to be safe and sober.

Many of the posts on this thread show why random drug testing is needed, because there sure seems to be a lot of you guys who feel that its a game to get high and not get caught. Trust me gents, when an accident happens and they pull a piece of your hair and find ANY drug in it that has not been perscribed to you by a doctor, life and your "personal freedom" will change. Do I like doing random testing? No, but there are others who think its a game to get high then try and operate a machine that the public uses.

Guys, let me ask you a silly question. I fly airplanes for a living. Next time you and your family hop on a jet to fly somewhere please tell me how you would feel about the pilots toking on a doobie at the jetway door before getting on the plane?

What? You want the pilots to be safe and sober when they fly you from point A to point B in that thunderstorm? Then please tell me the difference between this and the guy/gal who drives the bus, the train, the street cleaner, the person who repairs the brakes on a city vehicle, repairs cables on the ski lift and so on?

You can have all the "personal freedom" you want. Just stay away from any job that could possibly involve any of the public. After all, last time I looked I did not sign a release of my rights that allowed anyone else to get high and sacrifice my safety and the safety of my family.