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"Gently driven, tach never above 4, 500."
I'm thinking I should be feeling sorry for this guy.
Ad for a 2006 911 convertible (2050 miles, $87,000): 2006 PORSCHE 911, Garage kept, still has new car smell. Cocoa top, cocoa mats, GPS system, Sport Chrono Package, Heated seats, Colored crests in wheel caps, BOSE sound system.Never driven in rain. Gently driven, tach never above 4, 500. I even tinted the garage door windows so the sun would not fade the paint. This is my baby, she is perfect in every way. Clean title in my posession, price is very firm and very fair. This car has less mileage on it than a demo. It is a 997 model which has not changed over the past year. The exact car sells for $99, 630 this year. My selling price is based on NADA value. |
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I will never understand why people would puzzy-foot a Porsche. Yeah, a car designed with years of endurance racing to draw from is going to fall apart if you rev it over 4500. Please, my car sees 6500 daily.
Porsches are meant to be driven hard.
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I will never understand why people would puzzy-foot a Porsche. Yeah, a car designed with years of endurance racing to draw from is going to fall apart if you rev it over 4500. Please, my car sees 6500 daily.
Porsches are meant to be driven hard.
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Unless he is lying, of course..
I think I was overtaken by this guy at the 'Ring' a couple of weeks ago. Haauuling a$$. Blond in the pass. seat.. ![]()
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I'd rather have a car that had been exercised. Italian tune-up can do wonders for a car.
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Be sure to show up at the test drive with a helmet and leave with a smoky burnout.
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It would be funny to show up in full racing garb (helmet, racing suit, nomex, even a hans device) and then when you get in the car, look confused at the seat belts and ask how they work...
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When mine was running I didn't take it above 4500 rpms... of course, thats about 90mph in 4th, and on a 42 year old original engine...
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It's his "baby" and he even tinted the garage door windows to protect the paint job? And then he rarely drove it and is now selling it after about 1 year? Right. He should be arrested for child abandonment.
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Just so you know...
The break-in period (factory specified) on a 997 is ~4500rpm for the 1st 2000 miles. Not to start the debate, but @ 2050 this car has been cared for properly.
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sounds to me that someone bought a car that they can't afford to keep up, otherwise why would you never drive it?
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And therein lies the catch-22: If you drive it 4,500 RPM for 2050 miles, as he did, you're "pussy footing a Porsche" yet if you rev it 7,000 RPM all the time you're beating on it. Oh, and then if you wreck it, well then "you should be required to take a class on driving high-performance/supercars!!11" 101z....
Seriously, who cares what someone else is doing with their car. He paid ~$95,000 for it, he can drive it however he sees fit. Maybe he thinks most of us are dolts for redlining the first 3 or 4 gears everywhere we go and polluting the hell out of everything and needlessly wasting gas and speeding around. When I was at Road America a few years back I saw a gentleman who had just bought a 996 Cab (first few years of 996, so it was a big deal) and wanted to cruise it around the track. By the end of the day he ended up cruising it into the wall...destroyed. Ouch ![]() The point is..not everyone buys a Porsche to act like Walter Rohl. They buy them because they're sexy, sound great, and they give you an erection when you occasionally mash the loud pedal. They also tend to say, "I'm driving a 90K+ car, I've achieved a bit of success," like it or not.
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maybe he means 4500'...he never drove it in the mountains.
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The faster you spin the engine, the more quickly stuff wears out. I wouldn't consider that "abusive" at all. It's being good to his engine.
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I considered the break-in period as well, but thought it was only 1000 miles.
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Over $6/mile, and he never even redlined it. Ouch.
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Mine doesn't even make any real power until 4500 rpms... Hmmmm.
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Hehehe, for that kind of $$$ there's two ways to look at it:
1. Garage Queen - never drive it, keep in in a plastic bubble and hope to MAYBE recoup your investment 30-40 years later. 2. Enjoyment - drive the snot out of it and don't regret it. That doesn't mean "abuse it" (as in, constantly peg the revs and bounce off the rev limiter and do burnouts at every light). It means drive it the way it was meant to be driven. This is what I'd probably do.
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Proper break in (read any book on breaking in a new engine) requires at least a couple full throttle accelerations to max power (within max. safe rpm range) to properly seat the rings. The number one rule is to NEVER let it overheat.
Does Porsche dyno each engine? If they do I bet its been over 5000 rpm. How do you break in a brand new Race engine? You floor it and don't let up. Note race engines have usually been dyno run for their "break in" period, usually very brief. Otherwise a couple of laps is enough. Last edited by snowman; 09-10-2007 at 03:04 PM.. |
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