Mount Catherine

[Evans, Marv]

Happy birthday Supe! I know what you mean. I've got around 3,900 miles of hiking, climbing & backpacking mostly in the Sierras, but also the tour of Monte Blanc, Acatanango in Guatemala and a few other places. I spent two weeks in the Sierras around my 60th birthday, so hopefully you'll have some good years to enjoy.

Aerkuld,
If you want to avoid mosquitoes in the Sierras, go up after the 10th of August of so. No mosquitoes, probably no bears, and fewer people. September & later is even nicer. You get cool nights and nice days (a few nice storms) with fall winds blowing pine pollen in the air. I always like to stay above 10K feet elevation.

[mattdavis11]

Happy B-Day Supe.

[ckissick]

Originally Posted by Superman

Excellent. I was hoping this thread might attract a kindred spirit or two. You are all welcome to tag along. It would be a pleasure. A double-pleasure.

You've definately got a kindred spirit here. Until I had kids, I went on a 2-3 week backpacking trip every summer in the Sierra. Nothing like an 85-pound pack on your back and looking forward to trails through the wilderness and peaks to climb for the next 20 days.

Give me a thermarest pad on the hard ground and a restful night under the stars, secure in the knowledge that the food is hung well out of reach of the bears. I'm much happier there than in a 4-star hotel.

My older daughter is 11 now, and we went on a river rafting trip in July, with one night camping on the river. That's just the start for us. I'll be 50 in 1-1/2 years, and I plan on bagging more peaks well into my 70's and beyond.

[ckissick]

Originally Posted by Evans, Marv

I always like to stay above 10K feet elevation.

Me too. One trip, we averaged 11,500 foot elevation camp sites for two weeks. No bears above the tree line.

[Seahawk]

Originally Posted by ckissick

My older daughter is 11 now, and we went on a river rafting trip in July, with one night camping on the river.

What river did you run?

[Aerkuld]

Thanks for the tip Marv. This particular trip was in the mid '80's and we were visiting from the UK so we were limited to whatever time of year that was, probably mid to late August. To be fair the mosquito problem was limited to one camp site that we spent one night in. It looked perfect, a pretty little meadow close to a stream. It was actually perfect up to dusk when the mosquitos arrived. There must have been clouds of them and you could hear the high pitched whine as they came in at you like an attack of stukkas. Little b@stards, it was bloody miserable. Once we got out of there it was no problem. I think it was that trip that we did Elizabeth pass and 11,375 feet was a exciting for me when the biggest elevation in Britian is Ben Nevis at 4,406. If I recall, we spent a week and a half backpacking up there and when I got back to the UK my work sent me on a three week Outward Bound course in Wales. After trekking around the High Sierras that was a walk in the park and a nice way to 'wind down' from my vacation!
The bear experiences may have been the same trip, but I'm not sure. I recall we had to hike in quite a long way on the first day as the rangers had warned us of the bears at the first of the camps that you'd get too on the hike in. Apparently the bears had learnt that people staying there are loaded up with food so they stood to gain a good haul if they hung around that site. We ended up hiking in to Bearpaw Meadow and staying there for the night. It was a bit too much for my mom and little sister and we had to leave their pack on the trail with my uncle while we hiked to the camp with them. Dad and I then left our packs at camp with the ladies and hiked back to pick up my uncle and the other packs. We arrived in the dark to a welcome meal though! It was Bearpaw Meadow where the ranger had to extract the bear that had half fallen into the toilet pit and got stuck. That couldn't have been fun.

[ckissick]

Originally Posted by Seahawk

What river did you run?

South Fork of the American. It has many class 3 and 3+ rapids. We want to try the Middle Fork next, with class 4 rapids, but my daughter is too small right now. Maybe in 2 years.

[Evans, Marv]

Aerkluld,
Bearpaw meadow is 11 miles from Crescent Meadow in Sequoia Natl. Pard. Pretty easy hike without much incline. When I was a ranger in Sequoia, we had real problems with bears tearing up cars to get in when people would leave food inside. With the VW busses, they would just peel back the side doors to get in. Elizabeth Pass is a nice area. The east side leads over to a plateau leading to the headwaters of the San Juaquin River if I remember correctly.
We used to have to tranquilize bears occasionally when they became a problem in the campgrounds. We'd take them 10 to 15 miles away at first and let them out in the woods. Problem was they'd be back in the campground the next day most of the time, and we'd have to take them 30 to 40 miles away to get rid of them.

[Superman]

Originally Posted by techweenie

Yesterday was my birthday, too Supe. I just took the day off and relaxed.

My brother, however, who is a few years older than you has climbed every serious mountain in the PNW, plus several in the Himalayas, including K2 -- a couple of times. He likes that stuff. It mystifies me.

Happy b'day.

Same birthday? No wonder we're both handsome and charming.

I don't care much for heights. Catherine was a bit frightening, but manageable. No technical climbing, just the steep 'cable assist' stretch at the top. Interestingly, my favorite location might be in the seat of a jet fighter or a radial-engined biplane, and my least favorite would probably be a rock face.

[Seahawk]

Originally Posted by ckissick

South Fork of the American. It has many class 3 and 3+ rapids. We want to try the Middle Fork next, with class 4 rapids, but my daughter is too small right now. Maybe in 2 years.

I've run them both many times. Did you go out of Placerville, down the hill to Chilli Bar?

Satan's Cesspool, the Gorge to Folsom Lake

Good river for children, at least back in the late 70's, early 80's when I ran them...the rapids are fun and almost always end in calm water. Great that you are doing this with your kids, ckissick.

[Aerkuld]

Originally Posted by Evans, Marv

Aerkluld,
Bearpaw meadow is 11 miles from Crescent Meadow in Sequoia Natl. Pard. Pretty easy hike without much incline. When I was a ranger in Sequoia, we had real problems with bears tearing up cars to get in when people would leave food inside. With the VW busses, they would just peel back the side doors to get in. Elizabeth Pass is a nice area. The east side leads over to a plateau leading to the headwaters of the San Juaquin River if I remember correctly.
We used to have to tranquilize bears occasionally when they became a problem in the campgrounds. We'd take them 10 to 15 miles away at first and let them out in the woods. Problem was they'd be back in the campground the next day most of the time, and we'd have to take them 30 to 40 miles away to get rid of them.

It probably was Crescent Meadow that we set off from but I don't recall, could it have been Cold Springs? I know that we were planning on stopping before Bearpaw as it was the first time we had all hiked with packs. My sister and I would have been about 15 and 18 respectively at the time. Our family was used to hiking, but only with day packs and not above 3,000ft let alone the temperature. Even if it was only 11 miles, by the time my dad and I had done the trek to bearpaw, turned around and gone back for the packs, and then gone back to Bearpaw I guess we might have done about 18 miles. I'll have to find out where we went exactly. Would we have gone to Elizabeth pass via Glacier lake? That sounds familiar for some reason.
I think the ranger at Bearpaw wasshooting some of the bears with salt pellets. It seemed to scare them off for a while.

[Tishabet]

Kindred spirit?
I spent 3 summers as a professional alpine guide in the US, Canada, France, Switzerland and Italy.
I would say I conservatively have 4-5k miles of experience wearing a backpack, including nearly all of the Appalachian Trail as well as some of the Pacific Crest (I've done the Muir Trail, for instance).

Here's a pic of me chilling with some local sheep in Switzerland (note fantastic farmer tan!)

[911boost]

Great thread Sup. I enjoy your threads that don't involve politics, or you wearing a dress, although those do make me smile.

My wife and I spent lots of time back packing in our pre kid days. Mostly in Northern Minnesota. I have doen a fair amount of hiking here in Colorado, and its one of the reasons I love it here so much. We still camp, but it involes an 18 foot trailer and four wheel drive. I still can't stay in anything that resembles a campground and will only camp in off the beaten path spots.

If you get a chance, and you like to read, you should read "A Walk in the Woods", by Bill Bryson. Its a good book on his adventures along the Appalachian Trail (of which I have done almost all of).

Bill

[teenerted1]

did a lot of hikes in the Alpine Lakes area in my youth. the last real trip i did was in the Icicle Creak area below Leavenworth the year before it was wiped out by a pretty big fire. hear it has been reopened since, wonder what it looks like now.

now i just do the none to often day hikes. usually in the north bend to
sno-pass area.

[Superman]

I'll read the Bill Bryson book. I'm reading another of his books now. In a Sunburned Country. Very good author.

"Teener Ted," eh? Not sure what to think of that. Yes, Alpine Lakes. I feel like Richard Dreyfus in Close Encounters. Alpine Lakes is calling me in.

[Shaun @ Tru6]

Happy Birthday Supe from the Cascade Saddle, paradise found. Don't go another birthday before doing the Rees-Dart Tramp. Plan now for a February-March 08 trip.

[911boost]

Sunburned is a good book as well.

[ckissick]

Originally Posted by Seahawk

I've run them both many times. Did you go out of Placerville, down the hill to Chilli Bar?

Satan's Cesspool, the Gorge to Folsom Lake

Good river for children, at least back in the late 70's, early 80's when I ran them...the rapids are fun and almost always end in calm water. Great that you are doing this with your kids, ckissick.

We camped at a spot near Lotus, and took the outfitter's bus to Chili Bar for the put-in. Folsom Lake is low so we had some bonus rapids all the way to take-out.