Obese in Mississippi? Be banned from restaraunts

[Tobra]

Originally Posted by URY914

Can they make STUPID against the law too?

if only they could keep the stupid ones from breeding instead of giving them a cash prize every month.


I guarantee I could solve the obesity epidemic, but they would not like it so it will never happen. It is really very simple, you burn more calories than you take in and your weight goes down, that is literally all there is to it. Endocrine problems, eating disorders, whatever the cause ostensibly is, it all boils down to eating less and doing more(or at least eating less)

Wayne, they are not going to hurt you physically, unless they step on your foot or something, but they do cost you(unless you don't pay taxes)

Originally Posted by Dan in Pasadena

It always amazes me how EVERYTHING on PPOT eventually gets made political and especially that they get made the fault of "liberals" ...even though in this case the legislation was SPONSORED by a Republican and the Democrat vowed to "shred" the bill!

Must be nice to live in a black and white world and have everything figured out so neat and tidy.

that is nice Dan, but clearly you did not understand the post you were responding to,

you voted yes on prop 93-97 didn't you.

[72doug2,2S]

This thread is useless without pics!!!

[MatthewBrum]

I think this a good thread that brings up some very good points. One subject I would like to see mentioned is the cost of health care and should people pay more for health care if they live an un-healthy lifestyle? I'm starting to think they should, considering how much of a problem obesity is these days. Maybe if people had to pay for the extra burden they put on the health care system in this country they will think a little more about eating too much.

Wayne had a point, back in the day being fat often meant you were well off. At least back then the poor people had healthy eating habits to prevent costly and preventable medical problems.

[WolfeMacleod]

Originally Posted by MatthewBrum

At least back then the poor people had healthy eating habits to prevent costly and preventable medical problems.

Sure if you consider malnourishment/starving a healthy eating habit. Talk to some Depression-era people and see if what they were eating would be considered healthy. Possibly. Now look even further back in history and you'll see that really only the rich could afford to eat "healthy" as we would consider it today.

[varmint]

i want this law enforced only within a fifty foot radius of rob reiner. that nazi hog is responsible for me not being able to smoke in bars. i want him to experience the effects of an out of control nanny state.

[Racerbvd]

Originally Posted by 72doug2,2S

This thread is useless without pics!!!

Well, I'm all for owners right, when I was on the local Republican Executive Committee, I had many arguments with our president abut the smoking amendment. I don't smoke (well, sometimes a good cigar, maybe a few times a year, but never when dining out) and he felt that he should have the right to tell owners they had to ban smoking, I'm at the other end, if I don't like something, I let me $$$ speak, let the owners choose, after all they are the ones paying the taxes. And I would tell this Rep the same thing, as a matter of fact, I few years back, when I was on the Tourist Development Committee, there is a country BBQ event in our country, real red neck, but a huge event, and at the time our only Super Bowl sanctioned event, some idiots decided that they didn't want it (it is a real money maker and pro family event) because they served beer and one big assed lady got up speaking about how great her community is (we are talking small town near and ind. park where they wanted to hold it) and said with disgusts,They hold a

Beer Belly Competition

at which point, I stood up and said, pushing my big belly out

So you have a problem with guys with big bellies?? What about your butt

Well, half fell out of their chairs. For the recourd, I still have never been to the Ham Jam, nore do I plan on going. Just because I don't want to be around a bunch of rednecks doesn't mean they can't have beer belly contest.

[MatthewBrum]

Sure if you consider malnourishment/starving a healthy eating habit. Talk to some Depression-era people and see if what they were eating would be considered healthy. Possibly. Now look even further back in history and you'll see that really only the rich could afford to eat "healthy" as we would consider it today.

I was not looking that far back... but somewhere between then and now a lot of the poor people are now suffering from obesity and all the problems that source from it as opposed to lack of nutrition. I am only referring to this country, although some other countries are starting to make the same transition. I don't know many depression-era people but the ones I did know lived long enough to tell me about it.

[dafischer]

Originally Posted by 72doug2,2S

This thread is useless without pics!!!

You asked for it...

[MatthewBrum]

is that fake?

[Racerbvd]

Originally Posted by MatthewBrum

I was not looking that far back... but somewhere between then and now a lot of the poor people are now suffering from obesity and all the problems that source from it as opposed to lack of nutrition. I am only referring to this country, although some other countries are starting to make the same transition. I don't know many depression-era people but the ones I did know lived long enough to tell me about it.

Eating healthy does not cost more than eating crap. When I was in school, we made fun of the fat kids, I got made fun of for being the skinny kid with glasses, but when some idiot decided that kids shouldn't be kids anymore, and that fat butts & bellies where cool, eating fried food over boiled has a lot to do with that. I have never liked fried food (pretty rare being from the south & my grandmother was a great southern cook) But people tend to eat for convenience over quality(something that I too have been guilty of

[MatthewBrum]

I think eating healthy does cost more. I think the extra cost is not that much and negligible for me but still a cost. If you try and stay away from high fructose corn syrup, hydrogenated oils, and such the food is generally going to be a little more expensive. I agree most of it is convenience.

[WolfeMacleod]

Originally Posted by Racerbvd

Eating healthy does not cost more than eating crap.

Obesity studies do suggest that eating healthy does cost quite a bit more than eating crap. Take Ramen for instance. I eat a lot of it, not because I have to, but because I like it. And, I can feed myself for a week or more on $2. Ramen is the epitome of "crap"

I don't know how much shopping you do, but we do quite a bit. We see healthy foods costing much, much more than unhealthy food... Hamburger Helper for $1 a box, Ramen 10 for $1, 1lb hot dog packs for $1....the list like this goes on.
I wonder why the leaner the ground beef is, the more expensive it is?
The only cheap non-crap food I've really found are the big Salad bags that Sam's Club sells for about $3. Those will last me about three days.

[notfarnow]

Originally Posted by Racerbvd

Eating healthy does not cost more than eating crap. When I was in school, we made fun of the fat kids, I got made fun of for being the skinny kid with glasses, but when some idiot decided that kids shouldn't be kids anymore, and that fat butts & bellies where cool, eating fried food over boiled has a lot to do with that. I have never liked fried food (pretty rare being from the south & my grandmother was a great southern cook) But people tend to eat for convenience over quality(something that I too have been guilty of

A sensible perspective?
Proper punctuation, and no exclamation marks?
No profanities or diatribes about democrats?

Jeeze, are you OK Byron? I think your dosage needs to be adjusted!

You'd better at least post some pics of strippers and/or cats, or we might start to worry about you!

[Tobra]

Sweet halloween costume Byron. It is cheaper to eat healthy, but you have to actually prepare your food rather than just buy it and shovel it in, or pour it from a box to a bowl.

Fruit and vegetables are pretty damn cheap in season, I know of several places you can get a dozen ears of corn for a dollar. You can even get them practically for free if you toss a few seeds in the ground, or if you have no ground of your own, a pot full of dirt. Ask ANY woman over the age of 70 if they know how to can vegetables. They will. If Americans were not fat lazy pigs(in general, there are exceptions, Byron does not seem all that lazy to me, but I never met him.), we would not be having this discussion.

The crappy cheap food Wolfie mentions have two things in common, aside from low cost.

1.They are convenient
2.They are loaded with sodium

There is a reason that dirt poor folks from around the world eat rice. It is cheap and nutritious. Problem is you have to make it. If you look at the traditional food from any country, beans and rice from Mexico, pasta and marinara sauce from Italy, I could go on but shall not; you will find that they have two things in common.

1.They are cheap
2.They provide you with all the essential amino acids(the amino acids your body can't make)

The upshot of this is that if you were too poor to eat anything but beans and rice, it would not matter that you could not afford to buy meat because your diet would not be lacking anything, aside from the odd lemon or whatever to keep you up on your vitamins

BTW, this is as bad a law to me as the no smoking anywhere in California one, and I don't smoke.

[Hugh R]

My wife says I like to cook, not necessarily true, I like to eat well, meaning good well balanced meals. Last night she set out to make this Kraft chicken pie mix which was basically a can of chicken and gravy an bag of potato flakes, and a bag of muffin mix. Potato flakes on the bottom, chicken/gravy can and dough on top. They call it a meal, and she was content to make that! No veggies or anything, high in sodium and sugar.

When I make something like that its real potatos, celery, carrots, mushrooms, green peppers, peas, and a few chicken breast fillets, with a can of mushroom soup with a hand made crust on top. Takes me 20 minutes tops if you have the fixins in the house.

[Joe Ricard]

I live in Gautier MS.
I did not vote this idiot into office.

SammyG2 put it best in the 1st page post.

Somewhere after that this thread went down hill quickly.

Anyway just saying.

[cstreit]

Originally Posted by motion

The correlation between income and obesity never ceases to amaze me.

I had a long conversation with a cab driver from Ethiopia who was telling me about his immigration to the US. I asked him what the draw to coming here was. He responded "First there is opportunity for someone who works hard. and second, I wanted to live in a country where even the poor people can be fat"

[Buckterrier]

Originally Posted by legion

Food so far today:

Breakfast: 1 blueberry muffin and one unsweetened Lipton iced tea.

Lunch: 1 hard-boiled egg, two slices of leftover pot roast, 2 servings of green beans, 1 diet Sprite, 1 South Beach soy bar, one serving of sugar-free Jello.

Still, I'm 20-30 pounds heavier than I would like to be (though I hide it well).

You won't get any 'healthier' eating that way either, maybe 'thinner' but not healthier.
Dr. Barry Sears is spot on with his Zone 'diet'. It is not a diet but a way of healthy eating. Read his book it is truely amazing and will make sense too all.
The bad part is it's so expensive to eat healthy and is time consuming also.

[tabs]

Originally Posted by Wayne at Pelican Parts

Drunk people hurt others, as does 2nd hand smoke. Overweight people generally do not cause others around them much harm.

-Wayne

Unless they fall on you as they have a coronary.

[Buckterrier]

Originally Posted by Wayne at Pelican Parts

Overweight people generally do not cause others around them much harm.

-Wayne

Say that when your writing your monthly health care check out. It's no different in the arguement on helmet laws, Proponenets state 'public burden'. It should be the same with obesity, smoking etc. etc.