OK we're down to three contenders...which one are you most similar to?

[Dueller]

Well three contenders if you don't count Ron Paul's surge that's sure to come.

Anyways, here are a few background facts...looking at Hillary, John and Barak's early years/families. Which is most similar to your upbringing?

CLINTON

b. 1947 (Chicago, Ill)
Parents never divorced...parents conservative
Raised Prostestant...family active in church
Father successful small businessman/stay at home mom
Attended public schools in upscale neighborhood
National Merit Finalist
Republican volunteer/activist thru middle of college
Disillusioned with Republican party due to Vietnam/civil rightsmovement/Nixon
Attended private college (Welesly) majored in PoliSci
Elected College class president...gave commencement speech
Worked a summer in college touring Alaska as dishwasher/slimer in salmon factory
Attended Yale law school immediately after graduation from college
Hung around an extra year waiting for fiance to finish
One marriage; never divorced; 1 child

McCAIN
b. 1936 (Panama Canal Zone)
Raised Protestant...not particularly devout
grew up a Navy brat (Both father and Grandfather were 4 star Admirals)
Father career military...stay at home mom; parents never divorced
Father absent often for long periods of time
Attended 20 odd schools by High school...mostly Base schools until HS
Family settles down about time attends HS...attends prestigious private schools (Episcopal HS)
Lettered in wrestling 2 years
Mediocre student...unruly and defiant
Concerned about carrying on the family naval tradition
Party animal in HS and college
Attended US Naval Academy...get in with much political pull from family
Graduated 5th from the bottom of class at USNA but still get desireable jet pilot assignment
Two marriages; one divorce; 7 children

OBAMA

b. 1961 (Hawaii)
Multiracial parents...both scholars (father PhD economist; mth PhD anthropology)
Parents liberal/social activists
Parents separate/divorce when 3 y.o.
Move to Indonesia at age 6 to live with Stepfather/mother
Move back to Hawaii to live with maternal grandparents at age 10
Grew up middle class
Attend public schools in Hawaii
Tried pot/coke in teenage years
Moved to L.A. after HS.
Attend Occidental college 2yrs/transfer to Columbia for PoliSci degree
Work for community activist groups for 4-5 years before going back to law school
Attend Harvard Law School...graduate with honors/editor of law review
Natural father dies when age 20...only saw once or twice in early teens
Mother dies when he was 36 of cancer
Met wife when working for law firm in Chicago...she was his mentor
Married once; never divorced; 2 children

[jyl]

obama

[legion]

Ron Paul.

[Dueller]

Originally Posted by legion

Ron Paul.

Damn, Legion...read more carefully. Not "who do you resemble most?"....whose background is most similar?

[legion]

Fine.

Hillary Clinton, up until college.

[dd74]

Originally Posted by legion

Fine.

Hillary Clinton, up until college.

Really? That's hot!

[red-beard]

Hillary younger, McCain HS & College

[Dueller]

So, we're down to three choices, one of whom will be POTUS. Know what? None of the three will mean the end of life as we know it. McCain is a competent legislator, knows his way around Washington, and will have to make compromises with a democratically controlled Congress to get anything done especially with regard to Iraq. Ditto with Hillary and even she will not be able to control Congress totally, plus she's smart as hell. Just have to keep the Clinton lieing gene in check. Obama, while not as experienced as the other two in the ways of Washington and an idealogue, is the smartest of the three and will figure it out in short order.

If my middle income taxes go up another $5,000 per year and we get this country under control its a small price to pay.

[craigster59]

Obama. Born in Hawaii, parents divorced when young, tried pot and coke, both parents deceased and married once. Me and him were neck and neck til that Harvard Law/honors thing came up...

[Dueller]

WOW...a Robert Johnson avatar!!!!!!! I worked on his estate when I practiced in the DELTA.

[Porsche-O-Phile]

Originally Posted by legion

Ron Paul.

[Dueller]

Craigster...link to Robert Johnson estate litigation cases if you're interested:

http://66.161.141.176/cgi-bin/texis/web/ctcaselaw/+pewPrheQr_GxFqEom_W1tpq358VBmcXXAMG+vAnG_RFqqTI/sindex.html

[craigster59]

Originally Posted by Dueller

WOW...a Robert Johnson avatar!!!!!!! I worked on his estate when I practiced in the DELTA.

So who ended up with the missing ultra rare Gretsch guitar he's holding??

[Dueller]

Originally Posted by craigster59

So who ended up with the missing ultra rare Gretsch guitar he's holding??

Probably one of the many lawyers

705 So.2d 819; In re: Estate of Johnson;


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In the Matter of the ESTATE OF Robert L. JOHNSON, Deceased.

Claud L. JOHNSON v. Robert M. HARRIS and Annye C. Anderson.

No. 92-CA-00883-SCT.

Supreme Court of Mississippi.

March 28, 1996.

Rehearing Denied Aug. 21, 1997.

Order Dissenting from Denial of Rehearing Aug. 21, 1997.

James Warren Kitchens, Nancy A. Olson, Jackson, for appellants.

Stephen E. Nevas, Westport, CT, for appellees.

Before DAN LEE, C.J., and BANKS and MILLS, JJ.

MILLS, Justice, for the Court:

¶ 1. This appeal questions the entry by the Chancellor below of an order dismissing the claim of Claud L. Johnson as the illegitimate



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son and only direct heir of Robert L. Johnson, deceased.

¶ 2. Julia Major and Charles Dodds were married on February 2, 1889. While still married to Charles, but separated from him, Julia gave birth to Robert L. Johnson in Hazlehurst, Mississippi, on May 11, 1911. The father of Robert L. Johnson was one Noah Johnson.

¶ 3. Julia birthed eleven children by Charles (who later assumed the surname of Spencer) before her death in 1949. One of these children was Carrie H. Thompson, half-sister to Robert L. Johnson.

¶ 4. After Julia's death, Charles Dodds cum Spencer married Mollie Jackson. This marriage produced Annye Anderson, half-sister to Carrie H. Thompson. Annye is unrelated to Robert.

¶ 5. Robert L. Johnson became an accomplished musician, singer and songwriter during his short life. He specialized in that art form now known as "the blues." In between performances as an itinerant bluesman, Robert occasionally interrupted his ramblings to enjoy marital bliss. Robert first married Virginia Travis on February 17, 1929, in Penton, Mississippi. Virginia died in childbirth on April 10, 1930. The child was stillborn.

¶ 6. Robert married Colleta Craft on May 4, 1931, in Hazlehurst, Mississippi. Colleta died without issue in 1933 or 1934.

¶ 7. The appellant in this case, Claud L. Johnson, was born out of wedlock to Virgie Jane Smith on December 16, 1931, in Lincoln County, Mississippi. His birth certificate names R.L. Johnson as his father. Johnson's occupation is listed as a laborer.

¶ 8. Robert L. Johnson died "outside" of Greenwood, Mississippi, on August 16, 1938, at the age of 27. He recorded 29 songs during his short life. His recordings have greatly influenced modern popular music.

¶ 9. Carrie H. Thompson, one of Robert L. Johnson's half-siblings, lived in Maryland. She entered into an agreement with Stephen C. LaVere of Memphis, Tennessee, on November 20, 1974, whereby she assigned all of her purported rights to copyrights of Johnson's works, photographs of Johnson and any other materials concerning Johnson she might have to LaVere. In return, LaVere was to pay her fifty percent of all royalties collected by him as a result of his efforts to capitalize on Johnson's musical and artistic legacy.

¶ 10. On July 17, 1981, Annye C. Anderson, of Barrington, Illinois, wrote Carrie H. Thompson, her half-sister, and furnished her a power-of-attorney, prepared by one Mr. Kasilovsky, her attorney, granting Ms. Anderson irrevocable power to act for her in all of her affairs. This power of attorney was executed on July 22, 1981. Ms. Anderson stated that she obtained the power of attorney because "Uh, I was dealing with the Robert Johnson Estate with my sister. And my sister was ill. And she wanted me to handle her affairs."

¶ 11. The record next contains correspondence from Krasilovsky to Ms. Anderson concerning the estate of Robert L. Johnson, dated August 27, 1982. This letter advised Ms. Anderson to select "... a formal attorney in Mississippi or place of death for opening the estate for official probate purposes." According to the attorney, "This step is necessary to establish basic title in your sister as administratrix."

¶ 12. Carrie H. Thompson died testate in Maryland on February 20, 1983.

¶ 13. The testatrix appointed Annye C. Anderson as her "personal representative" and devised all of her property, including "... all rights and claims I may have as a result of an agreement dated November 20, 1974 ..." to Ms. Anderson and to the testatrix's grandson, Robert M. Harris. A copy of the agreement with LaVere was attached to Thompson's will. The will is accompanied by codicils which appear to conflict with the original intent of the testatrix. (These inconsistencies are matters for the Maryland probate court to interpret.) Within 30 days of the death of Thompson, Annye C. Anderson filed the will and codicils for probate in Maryland.

¶ 14. On June 1, 1989, Annye C. Anderson filed her initial petition to open the estate of Robert L. Johnson in the Chancery Court of Leflore County, Mississippi. She was appointed



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administratrix on June 1, 1989. The notice to creditors was not issued until May 6, 1991.

¶ 15. In the interim, Columbia Records released Robert L. Johnson---The Complete Recordings in 1990. These recordings have enjoyed extensive popularity. The inventories and accountings filed by Anderson in 1990 and 1991 state that the estate contained no property or money and that the only assets were "... miscellaneous and unknown."

¶ 16. Due to objections filed by other parties below, the Chancellor removed Anderson as administratrix and appointed Willis B. Brumfield, Chancery Clerk of Leflore County, as successor administrator on May 28, 1991. On August 29, 1991, the Estate of Robert L. Johnson entered into a contract with Stephen LaVere authorizing him to act as agent for the estate.

¶ 17. Claud L. Johnson, through counsel, filed his formal entry of appearance in the estate on February 19, 1992. He timely responded to a petition to determine heirship filed against him by Brumfield on March 10, 1992.

¶ 18. Finally, on March 23, 1992, the statutorily-required summons to unknown heirs was first published.

¶ 19. In his answer to the petition for determination of heirship, Claud alleged that he was the illegitimate son of Robert L. Johnson, deceased, and that he is the sole heir of the deceased. He also alleged that "... the original administratrix's failure to exercise reasonable diligence to locate him and give him such notice deprived him of due process at law ..." under the constitutions of the United States of America and the State of Mississippi.

¶ 20. Claud found a stone in his passway when Ms. Anderson filed a Motion to Strike the Affirmative Allegations and Dismiss the Claim of Defendant Claud Johnson. Ms. Anderson hung her hat on Sections 91-1-15 and 91-1-27 to -29 of the Mississippi Code of 1972, arguing that Claud's claim was barred.

¶ 21. The Chancellor, on June 22, 1992, entered an order dismissing Claud's claim as being time-barred under Section 91-1-15(d)(ii) of the Mississippi Code of 1972.


I. ISSUES
¶ 22. Claud raises three issues on appeal:


A. The three-year statue of limitations does not apply to Appellant, as that remedy applies only to those illegitimate children having an estate claim prior to July 1, 1981.

B. The original administratrix's failure to perform her duties should not be allowed to inure to her benefit.

C. The Mississippi Legislature's intent in amending the language of Section 91-1-15 was to correct and remedy the unconstitutionally disparate treatment given illegitimate and legitimate children, affording to illegitimate children the same rights and opportunities as legitimate children.

[Mule]

None of the above.

[frogger]

Ike, but with hair.

[Nathans_Dad]

McCain. Air Force brat here!

BTW, I saw a Hillary clip on MSNBC this morning, I guess it was from this week. The BAGS under the eyes are amazing!! Man, she looks like she hasn't slept in 6 months. Wonder if the strain of fighting the Obama wave is taking its toll?

[MRM]

Also very similar to Hillary up through college, McCain after.

[KFC911]

Originally Posted by Dueller

WOW...a Robert Johnson avatar!!!!!!! I worked on his estate when I practiced in the DELTA.

That's damn cool! I've had RJ's "The Complete Recordings" in my cd collection since it became available (and a subset on album before that).

¶ 8. Robert L. Johnson died "outside" of Greenwood, Mississippi, on August 16, 1938, at the age of 27. He recorded 29 songs during his short life. His recordings have greatly influenced modern popular music.

As I recall, these were all recorded in 1936 over the course of a couple of days in a hotel room with primative recording equipment. Without 'em, the rock & blues rock that I grew up with wouldn't have been the same. I kept hearing all these "Robert Johnson" tunes back then, and like many, those rockers 'caused me to seek out the blues roots that they evolved from. "The blues had a baby, and they called it rock 'n roll" - Muddy Waters

[Dueller]

If any of you blues fans are ever in the area give me a shout. I know of some primo jukes. A fun trip is cruising around the delta and heading either up to Memphis or down south to Nawlins on the back roads.