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svandamme 03-26-2008 09:31 PM

send those 2 slugs over along with a cheque for 50K Euro's per head
that'll take care of the first 3 months.

my reform program takes on all sorts of problems, and is 100% effective

Dueller 03-26-2008 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by svandamme (Post 3852330)
send those 2 slugs over along with a cheque for 50K Euro's per head
that'll take care of the first 3 months.

my reform program takes on all sorts of problems, and is 100% effective


It was 15K Euro yesterday for one girl...Slugs ought to be cheaper. Is the dollar dropping THAT fast?:D

svandamme 03-26-2008 10:03 PM

what we have here is a failure to communicate

Do you think i would enjoy 2 slugs in my house??
they don't smell right
they don't look right

i live in a rural area, nothing goes unnoticed
My rep has to be maintained, which is very difficult when there are 2 nancy boys in my house
hence there are additional requirements when dealing with them, eg, i'll have to arrange some kind of additional housing, get a pigfarmer, to rent out an pigstable attic or something, plus they will need some form of transportation... as i'm not going to bloody taxi them around...the nancy boy thing again...
In general, it's a lot of extra overhead, nothing comes cheap...

maybe you can send em to Livi...he'll fluff the slugness right out of them :D

Dueller 03-26-2008 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by svandamme (Post 3852351)
what we have here is a failure to communicate

Do you think i would enjoy 2 slugs in my house??
they don't smell right
they don't look right

i live in a rural area, nothing goes unnoticed
My rep has to be maintained, which is very difficult when there are 2 nancy boys in my house
hence there are additional requirements when dealing with them, eg, i'll have to arrange some kind of additional housing, get a pigfarmer, to rent out an pigstable attic or something, plus they will need some form of transportation... as i'm not going to bloody taxi them around...the nancy boy thing again...
In general, it's a lot of extra overhead, nothing comes cheap...

maybe you can send em to Livi...he'll fluff the slugness right out of them :D


I take it under your program a roundtrip ticket is not necessary...:eek:

svandamme 03-26-2008 10:31 PM

certain things can be arranged per request
although for some packages, it prefer Aruba... there is to much digging going around here in Flanders... and although they regularly find remains, the WW1 diggers would look mighty surprised if they dug up something looking about 90 years to fresh for their taste

slodave 03-26-2008 10:34 PM

I've heard that pigs 'ill eat the bones as well... There's a definite two 'fur for the pig farmer!

The poppies should look smashing next year!

svandamme 03-26-2008 10:39 PM

from Snatch

"You're always gonna have problems lifting a body in one piece. Apparently the best thing to do is cut up a corpse into six pieces and pile it all together. And when you got your six pieces, you gotta get rid of them, because it's no good leaving it in the deep freeze for your mum to discover, now is it? Then I hear the best thing to do is feed them to pigs. You got to starve the pigs for a few days, then the sight of a chopped-up body will look like curry to a pisshead. You gotta shave the heads of your victims, and pull the teeth out for the sake of the piggies' digestion. You could do this afterwards, of course, but you don't want to go sievin' through pig ****, now do you? They will go through bone like butter. You need at least sixteen pigs to finish the job in one sitting, so be wary of any man who keeps a pig farm. They will go through a body that weighs 200 pounds in about eight minutes. That means that a single pig can consume two pounds of uncooked flesh every minute. Hence the expression, "as greedy as a pig"

http://www.tuurlijkwel.nl/uploads/br...ipityThumb.jpg

We don't do that here in Flanders though, it's to messy, and i'de have to pay more folks to help out moving things, bribe, keep quiet,
so i operate with a crew , but work solo, less overhead that way, and less folks who know...
it's common sense

MFAFF 03-26-2008 10:51 PM

D,

The girls would benefit more from a longer term stay over here...and try to send them in the spring/ summer, December in London isn't the best..

There is a whole building full of US school and college kids right next to my office... over the semester they are here they turn from loud and brash teenagers to calmer and more confident young adults...

The transformation is so obvious in some as the realisation dawns on them that no matter how much parental support they get, both financially and emotionally, their own internal resources and achievements are the raw material for their own lives...and that can only be achieved when away from home.. regardless of the 'success' they have achieve there.

In the context of the slug, the realisation that the 'lifestyle' is only a thin veneer on a 'life' would place a context around the slug that brings the superficial attractions into sharp focus...

Or more bluntly....he might be a big fish.. but the pond in which he swims is shallow and small...placed in a bigger pond he is far less interesting...

The only thing to be wary of is the travel flexibility his cash gives him...pointless being away if slug is flying over every other weekend.

Good luck with it all...

Dueller 03-26-2008 11:21 PM

Thanks, MFAFF, for your serious input. Truth be known I probably worry too much about my stepdtrs likely because I have no children of my own. And they are very level headed young women.

The one in the beauty pageant fotos spent last summer in NYC interning for her uncle's company and was given quite a bit of free reign. She went out with very little direct help and landed an agent and some modeling gigs that were relatively profitable (i.e., Jantzen swimwear, Bill Blass and VS in both photoshoots and runway). But she also got screwed out of some fees after she returned home and learned some valuable lessons. Yet she was lonely for her bf and was ready to come home. She has always maintained good grades and has been motivated towards college and neo-natal nursing. But bf is not going to school where she can pursue her major and that is influencing her negatively. And that seems to be a major factor in her sudden decline in grades.

The other one visited her uncle in Europe and did just fine. She is not head over heels boy crazy like the other one...she's very feisty and independent. Wants to keep her options open aand date around.

They really are great young women. Bright, attractive, athletic, full of potential. I try to gently keep them of the mindset that there's plenty of time to settle down. To live life, see the world, establish your own careers and then start looking for a mate after you've lived a little. In other words don't settle in for the "starter marriage" in your early 20's as is so common in the deep south (as elsewhere).

MFAFF 03-26-2008 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dueller (Post 3852397)
..... To live life, see the world, establish your own careers and then start looking for a mate after you've lived a little. In other words don't settle in for the "starter marriage" in your early 20's as is so common in the deep south (as elsewhere).

D,

You're welcome..

And that last sentence is spot on...I'd suggest that its easier to see that as a youngster when you are in the middle of a very large foreign city...and being obliged to sort yourself out.. a month when there is a 'due home' date is easier to cope with...a semester away with potential to stay away another thing altogether...

May I also add that don't settle for a 'starter life' in your early to mid 20s...lots of time to try things out and see what's the right way forward..

livi 03-26-2008 11:41 PM

Yes, Dueller. The more you tell us about them, the more I believe these young women are perfectly capable of creating a happy life for themselves. Yes, I think maybe you worry too much which, in effect, is just a testimony of you being a good parent.

BTW, you refer to the guys as slugs. Whats the meaning of that?

Oh, and I still think Sweden would do them good! :D

svandamme 03-26-2008 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by livi (Post 3852403)

BTW, you refer to the guys as slugs. Whats the meaning of that?

http://www.simplegiftsfarm.com/images/slug.jpg

It's a general hint of excessive slime present whenever the bearer of this title is in the vicinity

Dueller 03-26-2008 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by livi (Post 3852403)
Yes, Dueller. The more you tell us about them, the more I believe these young women are perfectly capable of creating a happy life for themselves. Yes, I think maybe you worry too much which, in effect, is just a testimony of you being a good parent.

BTW, you refer to the guys as slugs. Whats the meaning of that?

Oh, and I still think Sweden would do them good! :D

Slug? Slang for a person who is lazy or unmotivated.

Well I'm sure they'll be over in Europe thius summer for at least a visit..I'll send them your way;)

livi 03-26-2008 11:58 PM

Thanks guys! I need improve further on my English. Particularly if any unexpected Americans should drop in.

You are a good man, Dueller. I donīt think you have anything to worry about.

Stijn, how about a few of us euro Pelicans get together and host an American Teenager Camp on the Riviera this summer? :)

Dueller 03-27-2008 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by livi (Post 3852412)
Thanks guys! I need improve further on my English. Particularly if any unexpected Americans should drop in.

You are a good man, Dueller. I donīt think you have anything to worry about.

Stijn, how about a few of us euro Pelicans get together and host an American Teenager Camp on the Riviera this summer? :)

Think you can keep the nordic rosey cheeked horn-dogs off of this one?



http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1206604920.jpg




or this one?

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1206605005.jpg

It'd be my luck they'd trade their good ol' boy slugs for euro-trash slugs:mad:

slodave 03-27-2008 12:06 AM

Send 'em out West!

Dueller 03-27-2008 12:11 AM

They'll bE out there, Dave. Their dad lives in Ventura Beach with his new wife.

slodave 03-27-2008 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dueller (Post 3852416)
They'll bE out there, Dave. Their dad lives in Ventura Beach with his new wife.

Please PM address and any other pertinent info, such as cell phone, current hair style, license plate #'s...

svandamme 03-27-2008 12:26 AM

Riviera... hmmm.... will you reserve your uncles boat or villa Livi??

and Dueller yes, i can keep the scandinavian clogger away from her...
just not to sure about the rest of the Riviera...
For a small fee, i can arrange for serious protection, trained professionals... think Rosa Klebb in From Russia with Love

livi 03-27-2008 12:37 AM

Yes Sir. The wine yard, the yacht and the apartment in Monte Carlo will be available. Free tickets to this years Grand Prix as the balconies are overlooking the best part of the track.

No euro trash, just me and Stijn and the staff. Doing our very best to accommodate and provide prudent guidance into the adult responsible world.

John_AZ 03-27-2008 04:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MFAFF (Post 3852385)
D,

The girls would benefit more from a longer term stay over here...and try to send them in the spring/ summer, December in London isn't the best..

There is a whole building full of US school and college kids right next to my office... over the semester they are here they turn from loud and brash teenagers to calmer and more confident young adults...

The transformation is so obvious in some as the realisation dawns on them that no matter how much parental support they get, both financially and emotionally, their own internal resources and achievements are the raw material for their own lives...and that can only be achieved when away from home.. regardless of the 'success' they have achieve there.

In the context of the slug, the realisation that the 'lifestyle' is only a thin veneer on a 'life' would place a context around the slug that brings the superficial attractions into sharp focus...

Or more bluntly....he might be a big fish.. but the pond in which he swims is shallow and small...placed in a bigger pond he is far less interesting...

The only thing to be wary of is the travel flexibility his cash gives him...pointless being away if slug is flying over every other weekend.

Good luck with it all...

I wanted to reread the post again. +++100

John_AZ

BRPORSCHE 03-27-2008 05:07 AM

Dueller,

I have absolutely nothing to add to this since I am neither a parent nor a knowledgeable adult, but I do know one thing for a 20 year old.

YOUR DAUGHTERS ARE HOT MAN!

svandamme 03-27-2008 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by livi (Post 3852421)
Yes Sir. The wine yard, the yacht and the apartment in Monte Carlo will be available. Free tickets to this years Grand Prix as the balconies are overlooking the best part of the track.

proper euro trash, no amateurs, just me and Stijn and the staff. Doing our very best to accommodate and provide prudent guidance into the adult responsible world.

hmm, sounds like a plan to me
The F1 bar in the little street next to MonteCarlo Cinema, you know it Livi??

although i imagine it's pretty crowded in GP weekend... i've only gone there in the off season, when Irvine was still driving Schumacher's sidekick @ ferrari
He'de be standing there with 2 blonde bimbo's , i walk in having just won 6 grand French Francs on the BJ table in MCCasino, so i plopped up 2 magnum's of champagne(that took care of that 6 grand in one go).. one for our table, one for Irvine, which he appreciated and then kept us drinking till morning on his tab... We only just made the 10oclock plane in Nice the next morning :D

gprsh924 03-27-2008 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BRPORSCHE (Post 3852554)
Dueller,

I have absolutely nothing to add to this since I am neither a parent nor a knowledgeable adult, but I do know one thing for a 20 year old.

YOUR DAUGHTERS ARE HOT MAN!

+1

berettafan 03-27-2008 09:07 AM

Sweet mary your daughters are hot!

Show that girl the world and hopefully she realizes this guy is beneath her.

She will have her pick of men (as will her sister) and surely doesn't need to limit herself to the local rich kid.

Sapporo Guy 03-27-2008 11:35 AM

What does she say?
What is the answer to why she got bad grades? I wouldn't take -- "I'm on it" for an answer since it is not the answer to why but rather to "what are you gonna do".

Lolo, I really have something against slugs on mommy's cards. Pretty boy jocs that date the best looking girl and drives one of the coolest cars at school ...
yep, I''m jealous :)

I was thinking that you could just wait it out and watch them go to community college or off to some school that daddy threatened them to go to. By then your daughter will realize that either she is not gonna stay at home with you two or that she wants to go to another school.

Problem is that her grades will suffer until then.

One of my students faced a similar problem 12 years ago. His daughter was the total problem regarding school. He gave her a choice:
A.) stay in Japan and pay your own way after HS
B.) get on a plane and get paid schooling in LA -- no conditions attached -- his thinking was if she was going to waste her life anyway she might as well do it in a foreign country where she might learn something about life. Of course, he was going to have to eat maccaroni and cheese for the next 5 years to pay for all this but he was willing to scarafice!

Interestingly enough she choose to go to LA. She even studied.



Quote:

"C students hire A students to work for them"; but there is alot of truth in that saying.
emmm, Henry Ford comes to mind :) But I do believe that he hardly finished 6 years of schooling ... Or was that Edison?

berettafan 03-27-2008 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the (Post 3851882)

The worst situation is where the family has modest wealth ($1-$5 million), but raises the kid as though they have real, generational wealth. Particularly where the family money comes from a "working professional" (Dr., lawyer, exec. at big company, etc., i.e., something that requires the skill of the parent and cannot be passed on to the kids), rather than from the ownership of a large, successful family business.


Reading 'the's posts i knew exactly where he was going with his questioning and i concur 1,000%.

Those cuties deserve to be shown the world and given pick of the litter.

Current intention is to do the same for my son when he is around that age. At 3 1/2 he is one handsome flirt and I don't want him picking a lifetime mate without sampling the entire market.

livi 03-27-2008 01:06 PM

Do these, by most standards, grown women have their own saying in these matters..?

Just checking.

svandamme 03-27-2008 01:09 PM

that's just crazy talk Livi...shush now

imcarthur 03-27-2008 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by livi (Post 3853330)
Do these, by most standards, grown women have their own saying in these matters..?

Just checking.

Yeah, I was going to say . . .

Whenever parents get involved with the lovelife of their offspring, major disaster ensues.

Ian

Dueller 03-27-2008 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by livi (Post 3853330)
Do these, by most standards, grown women have their own saying in these matters..?

Just checking.

LOL...of course, doc. We absolutely defer to their choice of friends, boyfriends, opportunities they wish to pursue. We would only intervene if we felt they were involved with someone/in something that was seriously self destructive. We've had a few iffy situations but in the end they made healthy choices thus far. We just try to get them to seek (with a bit of suggestion from us) opportunities that await them outside their little world.

E.g.: the one in the school beauty pageant thing (wasn't a "real" pageant) as part of the contest was asked "What is the best advice you've ever received/" To my shock, she replied "My stepfather has told me I should live life on my own terms. To think outside the box and never be afraid to experience new challenges when it would be easier to follow the crowd."

May come back to haunt me;)

livi 03-27-2008 01:29 PM

It honestly sounds like you are in a pretty safe position to lie back on the couch with your favorite pipe and a glass of fine cognac - relaxing. SmileWavy

Rikao4 03-27-2008 01:59 PM

Dad,
Livi is wearing clogs at the wedding , his friend Stijn will do some ceremony...he said the whole place will be flying. Something to do with mushrooms.

Rika

911Rob 03-27-2008 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dueller (Post 3853351)
E.g.: the one in the school beauty pageant thing (wasn't a "real" pageant) as part of the contest was asked "What is the best advice you've ever received/" To my shock, she replied "My stepfather has told me I should live life on my own terms. To think outside the box and never be afraid to experience new challenges when it would be easier to follow the crowd."

That my friend is a crown achievement!
Good for you Due!

Dueller 03-27-2008 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 911Rob (Post 3854204)
That my friend is a crown achievement!
Good for you Due!

Thx, Rob. Kinda scary that it was something I said to her nearly two years ago. They really do listen to what you say even if it is lame advice;)

Notwithstanding that, it was totally the antithesis of the canned responses that came from some of the other contestants.

Buckterrier 03-28-2008 05:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dueller (Post 3850144)
One of my twins' grades dropped drastically this 9 weeks...from all A's and a B or two to four C's in her main classes: Eng, Hist, Algebra and Bio. She is in advanced placement classes, and plays varsity tennis and volley ball. Works parttime after school. She not a disciplinary problem at all; abides by curfews, etc. She is very busy but the problem clearly seems to be spending too much time with her boyfriend. As in all her free time.

She feels badly but I think it warrants some type of punishment. She just turned 17. What say you dads out there?

Hey Jim, It's not like the grades dropped off the map. They dropped a notch. With all she has going on not bad. And you did say she feels bad also. I agree with the majority. You will alienate her with 'punishment'.
As far as the slug goes. And I want you to be honest with yourself. What if she brought home someone like I was 30 years ago... broken home, 'only' a HS education. Nothing to my name. Had to work hard for a living. What would you do? I'm positive you and your wife would surely be disappointed.
What is your view of success? All the riches in China? Or is it working harder than most but being happy with the few things you may have and your life in general?
Would you & your wife rather have a slug for a SIL and her have everything she wants or have to work hard, marry beneath her and have little but very happy?
I have no doubt with her looks and smarts she will do just fine any path she travels. The main thing is, and I'm sure you've said this to her, is she has to be able to look in the mirror and the end of the day and can say "I respect the person I'm looking at". This pauper can. SmileWavy

911Rob 03-28-2008 11:26 AM

Good point Mark!

My oldest daughter married a guy that cherishes her every move. He loves her so much and is a very good husband and father. Everything else is secondary to that.

She is one of the happiest gals I know.

NOW, if she had brought home a guy like you...... WELL!

911Rob 03-28-2008 11:31 AM

My Princess and her hubby:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1206732606.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1206732694.jpg

Buckterrier 03-28-2008 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 911Rob (Post 3855068)
My Princess and her hubby:

Rob your princess is gorgeous and yes he looks like he adores her.
To tell you the Gods to honest truth... I don't think I would have wanted a daughter of mine dating me back then. But like Rudolph, one day I grew up.

Jim, your stepdaughter will be just fine, (without the water boarding ;) )


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