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Sick, just frigging sick. Aussie Father and daughter have 2 kids

Australian Father, Daughter Reveal Sexual Relationship That Led to Birth of Two Children

Monday, April 07, 2008

An Australian father and his adult daughter whose sexual relationship has rocked the island nation revealed Sunday night on national TV that they had an apparently healthy child together after first losing a baby to congenital heart disease.

John Earnest Deaves and his daughter Jennifer Anne Deaves are at the center of an incest scandal in South Australia over their seven-year relationship.

The pair revealed their relationship on Australia's "60 Minutes" Sunday night, saying they were just asking for some respect and understanding.

In March this year, they were placed on three-year good behavior bonds after pleading guilty to two counts of incest.

District Court Sentencing Judge Steven Millsteed said the first count of incest was based on an act of sexual intercourse which resulted in the birth of the couple's first child.

The second count of incest related to an act of sexual intercourse which resulted in the birth of their second child in May last year.

"The first child was born in 2001 but died a few days after birth due to a congenital heart disease," Millsteed said.

The couple had begun a relationship after being reunited in 2000, almost 30 years after Deaves separated from Jenny's mother.

Because of problems with her own marriage, Jennifer Anne Deaves had gone to live with her father at Yongala, in South Australia.

Their physical relationship developed later that year and both ended their marriages and began living together.

"Each of you say that the other has provided care and affection that was missing in your marriage," Millsteed said.

"You also say that although you are father and daughter, that you were virtually strangers when your relationship commenced and that the relationship was based on mutual love and respect."

The couple had their first child while living in Rockhampton, Queensland, before moving to Port Pirie, in South Australia.

After the birth of their second child they moved to Bordertown, near the Victorian border where the Department of Families and Communities became aware of their relationship and turned the matter over to police.

Millsteed said that when contacted by police, the Deaves made full admissions.

He said both Jenny and John Deaves told him that they accepted their sexual relationship must end but hoped they would be able to continue to support one another and the children.

But he said while the case was not typical he had to impose a sentence that impressed upon them that any resumption of their incestuous relationship was unacceptable.

"The offense of incest exists not merely to protect children from sexual abuse," Millsteed said.

"In my view, other relevant factors include the need to prevent the high risk of congenital defects in children born of incestuous relationships and to prevent children suffering psychological harm and social stigmatization."

Revealing their relationship on "60 Minutes" last night, the Deaves said they were just asking for some respect and understanding.

Deaves admitted that he "initially" thought having sex with his daughter was wrong.

"Emotions take over, as people no doubt realize. There are times during your life where emotions do rule the heart, it rules the head," he said.

"I knew it was illegal. Of course, I knew it was illegal but you know, so what."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,347368,00.html

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Actually, from what I gather while extremely rare, it is not unheard of when the parent and child have been estranged for an extended period, particularly when the parent was not around for early childhood.

From what I gather, it basically comes down to the child not identifying the parent as a parent and vice-versa. They just see each other as adults.

Not saying it's right though...
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But in this case, the chick knew she was going to go live with her father, but started seeing him as a man first and a father second....I say if father is anywhere in the top 100, its a no go.
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I saw this yesterday. It is plain sicko. I don't care how into a woman I was...if I suddenyl found out she was my long lost sister, cousin....not to even friggining MENTION if she were my daughter, I'd be outta there in a heartbeat. Is there a more basic taboo?
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Ever notice it's always the ones from the south?

I guess south Oz is kinda' like the southern U.S.?
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Ever notice it's always the ones from the south?

I guess south Oz is kinda' like the southern U.S.?
Sourthern California?

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Ever notice it's always the ones from the south?

I guess south Oz is kinda' like the southern U.S.?
Hey hang on I'm from South Oz. Those retards moved here from Queensland. And nope we is nothin' like your southern cousins.
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Hey hang on I'm from South Oz. Those retards moved here from Queensland. And nope we is nothin' like your southern cousins.

Shhh, they think this happened in Austria.
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Shhh, they think this happened in Austria.
No we do not.

The same or worse can happen anywhere but we do know where Oz is...
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Hey hang on I'm from South Oz. Those retards moved here from Queensland. And nope we is nothin' like your southern cousins.
Everyone tries to move the blame for some unacceptable practices onto someone else. To distance themselves. Even labeling a whole region (state/country/ continent) as the same. I guess it's simply a natural reflex response. Pretending not to see the wounded wilder-beast about to be eaten, struggling out of herds reach and thus out of our communities reasonable responsibility, because it's emotionally easier to look the other way: easier than facing the truth.

Let's not kid ourselves:-

Wrong happens everywhere.
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Hey hang on I'm from South Oz. Those retards moved here from Queensland. And nope we is nothin' like your southern cousins.
UR right DeWolf - I've been to S. OZ and it's nothing at all like the South of the US - it was meant as a joke, and it got a laugh from me!
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Wouldn't South Australia be like Canada to the U.S. Never know what those crazy canucks might be up to. Hear it gets lonely up there during the winter months.

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Southerner California?
I know you are joking... but Antioch is hardly southern CA.

And sure it is easy to point a finger at the commie So Kalifornians or those red neck southerns but when the weirdo police start pointing their finger at your part of the world it is all "hey, here are fuched up people all over"

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