Fix Two Issues and You Fix America

[Mule]

So if we had a guy running for pres, & he was of marginal intelligence, but had a grasp on two issues, muslim terrorists & illegal Mexicans, & he got elected. If you fix these two issues, how's America looking?

As the Bloodhound Gang once sang, I'd appreciate input.

[Porsche-O-Phile]

". . .it's the economy, stupid. . ."

[IROC]

Big picture, what real threat do muslim terrorists really pose to the average American? Is that even an issue?

[IROC]

Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile

". . .it's the economy, stupid. . ."

+1

[erics944]

exactly. we would have less Mexicans....that doesn't fix the state of the current economy.

[s_wilwerding]

I think there is one fundamental issue that divides this country right now, and that is the role of government. It seems that anyone to the left of center believes that when people lose their jobs, or when they lose their houses as a result of taking out a mortgage that they can't afford, or when any other of a string of maladies befalls any American, it is the government's job to bail the people out. People to the right of center tend to believe that, while the government has its role, it is not the government's job to protect people from themselves.

Until we can get some majority of Americans on either side of that line, we are going to continue to have issues trying to please both sides. I would prefer if people would move to the right on this issue, but I suppose if a majority want socialism, well, that's the way it will go.

[fintstone]

Not the President's job to fix the economy. The best thing the govt can do is not to tinker with it. Look at how bad Roosevelt scred up the economy during his admin...under the guise of fixing it. All they end up doing is redistributing wealth and lett govt pick the winners an losers...instead of hard work and smart decisions.

[Porsche_monkey]

In my opinion, almost no different. The real issues, are, or soon will be, economic. Everything else is a diversion.

Which one has marginal intelligence? And are the others above or below him?

[Mule]

Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile

". . .it's the economy, stupid. . ."

Brilliant! Did you catch the events of 9/11? Do you think that has had an effect on the economy? What about millions of illegal Mexicans overwhelming social services in much of the US. But we do agree! It is the economy, stupid!

[Moses]

Originally Posted by Mule

So if we had a guy running for pres, & he was of marginal intelligence, but had a grasp on two issues, muslim terrorists & illegal Mexicans, & he got elected. If you fix these two issues, how's America looking?

As the Bloodhound Gang once sang, I'd appreciate input.

Here we are 8 months away from a presidential election. None of the three candidates has a reasonable plan for immigration and the Republican candidate wants to proceed with the calamitous policy in the middle east inaugurated by his predecessor. That leaves us with... A power-drunk liberal and a feel-good socialist. Great choices.

[MRM]

Ask yourself how your life would be different if illegal Mexican immigaration and Islamic extremism went away over night. How does that fix America's problems. Not small issues, of course, but fix all America? I don't think that the government will ever take away insane airport security no matter how completely Islamic terrorism is defeated.

By the way, why do you only ask only about illegal Mexican immigration? How about illegal Honduran and El Salvadorian immigration? Illegals from all of South and Central America? Do you care about illegal African immigration? Chinese? Canadians who overstay their allowed time in the US without a visa? How about illegal Irish immigration? The Irish have one of the largest illegal populations in the country. They have for generations. I just want to understand the issue. Is it illegal immigration you think is such a problem, immigration in general, or just immigration of dark skinned people who don't speak good English?

[onewhippedpuppy]

I'll go you one better Mule: entitlement and personal responsibility. Remove the entitlement programs that remove the incentive to work, give handouts (illegals included), and suck the government dry, and you have a good start. Related to that, make people again responsible for their own actions, as opposed to blaming another race or the government.

America was built on people wanting a better life. The American dream was working hard and having a great life. America was a world of opportunity. It still is, unfortunately the American dream has turned into the American right. People used to work their ass off to attain it, now they expect it to be handed to them. Individual hard work and innovation, and the rewards that come with it, are what made our country great. Now that incentive is slowly being removed by increasing government intervention and handouts.

Sadly, the illegal Mexicans are more like our ancestors than many Americans. They come to America knowing that if they work hard, they can have a better life. I don't agree with their methods, but America can learn a lot from their spirit.

In America, you can be anyone you want to be. However, this burden should fall on the individual. A sink or swim mentality made America great, and it saddens me to see it slowly washed away by entitlement. Terrorism has chipped away at America from the outside, but this is a problem eroding us from within. I wonder how long it can continue before we simply implode.

[Porsche_monkey]

Originally Posted by MRM

Canadians who overstay their allowed time in the US without a visa?

There are secret government re-education centers that stop us from saying 'eh' and train us to buy SUV's. It's an insidious infiltration plan to take over America from within.

[MRM]

I'm from MinnEhSoota. You guys fit in so well, doncha know we can't tell the difference? Eh?

[IROC]

Originally Posted by Mule

Brilliant! Did you catch the events of 9/11? Do you think that has had an effect on the economy? What about millions of illegal Mexicans overwhelming social services in much of the US. But we do agree! It is the economy, stupid!

It wasn't 9/11 itself that impacted our economy - it was our hamfisted, misdirected, delusional "bring on the rapture for oil" response to those events.

[Rikao4]

Down the line, that Vodka map may be correct.
we will have another 9/11...
If the Musli where smart ,they would show some patience..
we are doing it for them , just a bit too slow I guess.
Immigration..best joke in years, well 'illegal' is funnier. But it should be removed from our books and voco. cause there is no such thing..unless your RACIST..
do I see the glass as half full / empty..
doesn't matter anymore..
It's not our glass..

Rika

[Jim Richards]

1) Execute people who don't use their turn signals.

2) Ban fast food.

[onewhippedpuppy]

Originally Posted by Jim Richards

1) Execute people who don't use their turn signals.

2) Ban fast food.

What about people that drive slow in the fast lane? Can we execute them too?

[Jim Richards]

OK by me, but this thread said to come up with two.

[Seahawk]

Originally Posted by fintstone

Not the President's job to fix the economy. The best thing the govt can do is not to tinker with it. Look at how bad Roosevelt scred up the economy during his admin...under the guise of fixing it. All they end up doing is redistributing wealth and lett govt pick the winners an losers...instead of hard work and smart decisions.

Government fixing the economy!!!

Hows the hyper efficient DMV working out for you?

I want absolute minimal government paws on the economy not only because it is stupid, but because of the fact that the Constitution specifically calls for limited federal powers.

You want two things, here they are:

1) Return to the basis of the Constitution, including States Rights and the elimination of all agencies not specifically delineated (Dept of Education, etc.). That would fix the boarder issue and immigration.

2) Pass term limits legislation now so that career politicians (the real crux of our problems) are kicked to the curb. What I find amazing is that there is never an argument about having the Presidency limited to two full terms, yet the real power in our government, the law makers, get to serve until they f'ing can't hold their f'ing bladders

I have been to numerous hearings on the Hill, have in fact testified...a more falsely regal, self-serving bunch of Double A, Toledo Mud Hen-playing scum bags would be hard to find and gather in the same room.